new "polar vortex" slated next tuesday through end of the month
 

http://nation.time.com/2014/01/17/th...#ixzz2qfF87TyJ

Based on weather models, Junker is predicting that the polar vortex–a swath of bitterly cold, dense air–will move well south of its normal position and blast the northeast with more frigid temperatures. Throughout much of the country, he’s predicting temperatures 20 to 30 degrees below average.

notice the bold, hmm, wonder where the "normal position" is actually located lol

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

ice extent remained below average in most of the far north


oh yeah here's a bonus for @Split Eight

In Antarctica, ice extent remained above average

so what I do believe is going on here is that we're in the ever present stages of a pole shift, with the cold moving more south of the current northern position, I'm willing to bet that someday sometime soon or later, North America will be home to the North Pole. I also think the birds dying off are a direct result of the changes in the magnetic field that affect there migration. I've seen flocks of birds flying in circles lately here in the Midwest, like they don't know where to go. Other people are reporting this as well. Just one example.

dude. those are the things i linked to you in the last thread. lol. we have the same argument.

didn't even see that, links? lol

So you're saying that a region consisting mainly of ice, not sediment, will melt and form over land? I don't get it. Geographically and technically speaking it is...flawed. Ground will always be colder than 'land' that's floating - ice - which is inherently the north pole. It's a block of ice, covering a large region. And it is the second , generally coldest place on the planet. The coldest being a land mass just opposite of it, the reason that it's so cold, is because it's a land mass. Temperatures regularly reach -70, and that's WITHOUT wind chill. North America will probably feel a blast of temperatures colder than expected, but I mean in our lifetime I don't think much will change in the geography of the north pole..cause well its the north pole.

idk it was in the last thread tho

yeah the jet stream is getting pushed south

arctic ice isnt getting thinner but the total surface area is diminishing

i had two graphs and two links

I don't believe you, the roles are reversed here...just like the poles ironically lol