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Plot 01-06-2014 11:21 AM

3D printers
 
So these are apparently gonna be the next big thing,
Cos the patent has run out on the inventors and now its gonna blow massive.
Heard stories about people 3D printing guns and shit.

But the burning question on my mind is can I make my 3D printer make me another 3d printer? Could I even get my 3D printer to make me a 3D printer that is better than my old 3D printer?

...the Nagger 01-06-2014 11:36 AM

Yes you can make weapons which is why 3d printers are extremely dangerous

Batty 01-06-2014 11:39 AM

Yeah bro, this shit is gone be crazy, trust. It's like opening Pandora's Box on several levels. Once genetic cloning gets to the point that some average mofos can do it, that's gone be some crazy shit too.

Think about what it's going to do to alot of these big time companies when people are able to make their own shit locally. I've already seen a few people get their hands on 3d printers and they gettin paid.

But yeah fam, that gun cloning shit gonna be crazy, I was reading that too.

veritas 01-06-2014 11:50 AM

I still do not understand 3d printing? Is it like making exact 3 dimensional copies of things and working parts and all?

Batty 01-06-2014 11:53 AM

Yeah @V

That's where it's at now. It can replicate all aspects of a weapon.

veritas 01-06-2014 11:55 AM

how? lol...this is wild. and how could it just copy matter like that @ a person, like the molecules and stuff...

if you don't feel like answering, I will google.

Batty 01-06-2014 12:01 PM

Well, it's not the same as replicating matter and def not a person lol, that's why I mentioned genetic cloning seperately.

3d printers rely on scanning an object and then cutting it from supplied material. Like you could take a block of plastic and scan each part of a gun and make a working gun out of solid plastic.

This has been around for years, it's just next level now. Remember those wrestling action figures in the late 90's? They called it "Real Scan" technology. They'd do a 360 degree scan of The Rock and then scale it down and make an accurate sculpt in plastic of him. They did this with wheels and car parts as well, they could create a wheel design and a laser would etch the design on a blank rim.

veritas 01-06-2014 12:09 PM

dope. Good explanation. I understand now. So theoretically they could have a batch of "person soup" to draw from and clone using this tech? I want a pet velociraptor.

Plot 01-06-2014 12:12 PM

Can I make a better 3D printer with my 3d Printer?

veritas 01-06-2014 12:15 PM

well wouldn't you have to have all the materials and know how it was built? and if so, why not just build it?

Bender 01-06-2014 12:16 PM

There are a bunch of problems with making guns from a 3-d printer.

First they would be illegal because there is no seriel number.

You can not replicate a handgun that is common for example, they are not advanced enough, look up the handguns they would never work for conceal carry.

The weapon will expire and break down alot quicker than a regular weapon, there are reasons they are made with metal parts, for example the magazines they started making for AR's are only capable of lasting about 200 rounds - I believe, may not be an accurate number but I know it was pretty low.

Batty 01-06-2014 12:17 PM

@V - I'm sure that a different process would be involved and while we are a long ways off, I wouldn't doubt if something similar can be achieved one day.

@Plot - Do you mean use your 3D printer to scan and copy a more advanced model? That is an interesting question. I wonder what type of limitations the printers run into?

I like this topic.

Objective 01-06-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy (Post 243087)
The weapon will expire and break down alot quicker than a regular weapon, there are reasons they are made with metal parts, for example the magazines they started making for AR's are only capable of lasting about 200 rounds - I believe, may not be an accurate number but I know it was pretty low.

Ye, still lethal enough though. And keep in mind 3D printers is a pretty new invention. You think it'll be like this forever? Might as well talk a shitload about this now before they do get advanced enough to make a serious threat. Don't get me wrong, I love technology and its progression, but this is downright scary.

Bender 01-06-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batty (Post 243088)
@V - I'm sure that a different process would be involved and while we are a long ways off, I wouldn't doubt if something similar can be achieved one day.

@Plot - Do you mean use your 3D printer to scan and copy a more advanced model? That is an interesting question. I wonder what type of limitations the printers run into?

I like this topic.

you have to have a blue print usually, you can make one but it would have to be programmed, ie: each movable part would need to be programed into the printer just like the machines at a machine shop

Batty 01-06-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy (Post 243087)
There are a bunch of problems with making guns from a 3-d printer.

First they would be illegal because there is no seriel number.

You can not replicate a handgun that is common for example, they are not advanced enough, look up the handguns they would never work for conceal carry.

The weapon will expire and break down alot quicker than a regular weapon, there are reasons they are made with metal parts, for example the magazines they started making for AR's are only capable of lasting about 200 rounds - I believe, may not be an accurate number but I know it was pretty low.



Yes but none of the info in any way negates the dangers that concern people, as a matter of fact it only adds to the fears.

This would be the perfect way for criminals to creat untraceable, easy to dispose weapons. You don't have to worry about buying from a licensed dealer, background checks or registrations. You wouldn't have to worry about metal detectors and you could build a small army of terrorists easily.

I'm not worried about gun enthusiasts or collectors.

Plot 01-06-2014 12:26 PM

Can you make credit cards, can you make money?

I mean its all made out of plastic right?
Bank Notes in my country are plastic.

Batty 01-06-2014 12:31 PM

Whenever counterfeiting money got advanced in the past, the government had to step up their anti-counterfeiting processes. They are probably already on this tbh.

Hitler once had a counterfeiting plan that would've collapsed England making the British pound have no value basically.

Imagine somebody being able to replicate a gun out of hard plastic or resin.... Shoot somebody with it and then drop it into a small fire and disappear Ito a crowd.

uh-oh 01-06-2014 12:33 PM

you still need real bullets.

you can't make gunpowder, you can't make shell casings that don't explode

and the guns themselves fail after a few shots. not the magazines, but the actual part of the gun that contains the explosion and fires out the pistol

vice did a doc on it, and they were doing it with ar15's. im pretty sure they still needed the main part of the ar15. the part where the barrel and stock and clip etc all plug in, and even then they failed after a number of rounds

its not realistic

you are better off buying machining equipment and making your own real metal guns

uh-oh 01-06-2014 12:33 PM

your plastic bank card means nothing

you need a magnetic strip with info that is unique to you

you can't just make a magic strip that will work, it needs an account to draw on and etc

Plot 01-06-2014 12:35 PM

So what the fuck are CSI shows gonna make scripts about when we have clones running around killing people with plastic guns?


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