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Certain 12-06-2013 03:21 AM

Can you battle without lying?
 
One of my biggest problems with battling these days is the disappearance of the direct diss. Every time anyone tries it, they get called "statementish." So instead we get tons of lies.

I don't mean false personals. I'm talking about things like: calling a straight man "faggot"; talking about a single guy's girlfriend; calling someone's mom or girlfriend ugly when you've never seen her; saying someone you've consistently praised in the past is not actually good; etc. Basically, how many of you think you could consistently write battle verses where every single line was a direct, true-to-life personal?

That's the most effective thing. Battling shouldn't be about being wittier than someone else. It should be about demoralizing your opponent. It should be about making them reconsider everything they're doing in life. Battling should be mean. The Discussion forum has more mean disses than the battles do here.

SpookyDeep 12-06-2013 03:54 AM

Shut the fuck up bitch

Mael 12-06-2013 04:52 AM

I, for one, welcome our new Certain overlords and the compulsory act of supplying personal information and birth certificates for participation in all on-site text battles.

Personals only work if they're available. It's not as if we're all friends on FB or follow each other on Twitter. I value my anonymity. I'm guessing you haven't battled much, but what else could we possibly talk about?

To me, the opponent is;

- Inherently homosexual
- A virgin, and thus single
- Obese
- A basement dweller
- A complete failure at lolife

What can I say, it's stereotyping at it's finest. Plus wordplay isn't going anywhere.

anime_boners 12-06-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

Basically, how many of you think you could consistently write battle verses where every single line was a direct, true-to-life personal?
I mean I guess if I were battling my friends that I grew up with / know a lot about..

But nobody, or at least very few, people online know that much about each other so how the fuck would this work out?

dull boy 12-06-2013 08:30 AM

This is the point I came to after battling for a couple of years. It just gets old. This is why emcees in battle circuits feed each other personals before battles.

The only time I've been interested in writing a battle verse recently was against ill nika, because I felt I had 16 lines worth of personality aimmed material to use. In the end, I just didn't care enough to write it.

League battling is a hobby. I think this site, and others, focus too much on battling, but it's what draws a crowd.

Destroyer 12-06-2013 09:13 AM

what reed said

Witty 12-06-2013 09:48 AM

Most people on here can't even post without lying, why would you expect them to be truthful in a battle?

I understand what you're saying tho, it does get old.

Certain 12-06-2013 11:37 AM

Most battlers have posted a photo before. And most post with some degree of regularity in discussion. If they're lying, there's nothing you can do. But why not base it off what you know, or at least don't base it off something you know is wrong? Like, don't say someone who has a child is a virgin. That's stupid.

Destroyer 12-06-2013 11:52 AM

because we don't know enough about each other
and once we do, it gets played quickly
I.e. beyond eye lines, Karpis Indian lines, Bags fat lines, etc

ill nik-A 12-06-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dull boy (Post 222449)
This is the point I came to after battling for a couple of years. It just gets old. This is why emcees in battle circuits feed each other personals before battles.

The only time I've been interested in writing a battle verse recently was against ill nika, because I felt I had 16 lines worth of personality aimmed material to use. In the end, I just didn't care enough to write it.

League battling is a hobby. I think this site, and others, focus too much on battling, but it's what draws a crowd.

Ure creeping me out

dull boy 12-06-2013 12:40 PM

Why?

anime_boners 12-06-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 222603)
Most battlers have posted a photo before. And most post with some degree of regularity in discussion. If they're lying, there's nothing you can do. But why not base it off what you know, or at least don't base it off something you know is wrong? Like, don't say someone who has a child is a virgin. That's stupid.

So if we battled, you'd write 16 or more lines about how I like sneakers and anime and laugh at bizarre internet shit?

There's very little about me outside of those things that I disclose on the board.

Certain 12-06-2013 01:17 PM

Sure.

I could make fun of Sailor Jupiter and Asian culture and choosing your other user name off one of the lamest characters in the Marvel Universe. There are things.

I guess I just dislike battling.

Wise Wiggles 12-06-2013 01:20 PM

Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

Ghost1 12-06-2013 01:25 PM

This is stupid....but i dont have the time nec to properly rebut

Eviscerate 12-06-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 222352)
One of my biggest problems with battling these days is the disappearance of the direct diss. Every time anyone tries it, they get called "statementish." So instead we get tons of lies.

word. that's always been my pet peeve battling on netcees. people prefer creative lies than brutal truth in battles. i get it though. people mainly want to Laugh, even if the diss ain't true. factual and straight-shooters aren't celebrated around here.

Dominate 12-06-2013 02:18 PM

I agree to some extent. I try to match generic lines that I think of to the person I'm battling - sometimes I'll hold on to them to use against someone else in the future if they really don't fit the current opponent and I can think of other stuff to replace them. When I do a verse that's all or majority personals those tend to be my favorite verses. As others have said though, sometimes people just don't disclose enough about themselves to make a verse full of personals interesting and not repetitive.

dull boy 12-06-2013 02:22 PM

I prefer breaking someone down and exposing all their faults in a hurtful/funny way. Most battling here is done for sport. Not much heart in it. Which is why battling is a young man's game. The older you get the harder it is to care about.

Ghost1 12-06-2013 02:46 PM

Lol yeah kiss fm in Poughkeepsie Ny. Honestly I was lucky, and it wasn't even my doing. The song I made for my friends who passed on a car accident (Tim and Danielle) were very popular in my highschool. And the song I made ended up surfacing thru the community like wild fire and the next thing I know I have all these comments on my soundclick page about the song. I guess it touched alot of the ppl I went to school with and one day I got a call from one of my boys telling me to turn the radio on. The radio guy said that he got so many calls to play a song he never even heard of that they literally tracked it down and played it on the air lol. They only played it once but still a defining moment. Lol

Fuck those dead faggots.

Its mad strange u saw that wreck as a ticket to the fastlane
U spit at their crosses on the road to success JUST to get ya track played
This is the end yo. U think i give a fuck about ur friends bro?
Im damon waynes w/razor blades.... carving FAGGOT on their headstone
U gettin amped as shit & thats swell...but stop kiddin yaself
pump ya brakes or that drive'll be the end of u.....just ask tim & danielle
Ur drug past is dark. gettin clean is easy for a man w/heart
But fam goddamn its hard when u bang more junk then a salvage yard
swag an flow? Wack. But i kno why this kid so hype an shit
Them childish lines go straight to ur head....you snortin flinstone vitamins
Im swimmin in bitches my breast stroke hurtin these hoes
His first breast stroke was followed by carving the rest of the turkey alone
Shit is sad. This kids a fag. U introduce ya trick to bags..?
Ill hit the skag an she'll skip the rag. Have ya bitch late like a strikta mag
Tryed to get the battle on sum swag shit....dude wats next?
U wanna pick a different trade? OK. Trade places with ur two dead friends




This the last battle i wrote. So basocally im certains favorite battler.

An yes i said id fuck gambles girl cuz he has one and i will one day.....then the cypher will be complete.

StarFaggot 12-06-2013 02:47 PM

I make sure I sleep with my opponents significant other before the battle.


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