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DLB 12-01-2013 05:26 PM

Wes Welker
 
is he easily the most overrated WR out right now?

Neighbor 12-01-2013 05:28 PM

White Receiver?

Fart 12-01-2013 05:29 PM

He's overrated now that's he's had like 2 or 3 bad games? lol ok

DLB 12-01-2013 05:40 PM

he's always been overrated to me and his career took off once he started getting targeted by the GODS of QB'ing aka Brady and Peyton Manning so he looks good

but he's a fuck up even then and he helped the NYGiants beat the Patriots in the SB by not catching a wide the fuck open ball

we can bring in stats to say how he's not overrated but his play just doesn't seem as good as ppl rate him(all the WR lists i've seen have him like top 10 OVER Roddy White, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, Andre Johnson)

EDIT: this nigga's wife was about to have Ray Lewis catchin bodies too smh fuck his career

Fart 12-01-2013 06:00 PM

He is top 10
would he rated so high if manning/brady werent throwing to him? no. I think torrey smith is better and probably do better with said QBs but he's a completely different type of wr. Welker is the best slot wr in the game right now

DLB 12-01-2013 06:09 PM

and that's where i disagree tbh

he wasnt shit till he was on the coattails of the QB gods, i dont think he's anything w/o them tbh

CtrlF4 12-01-2013 06:15 PM

Shout out to Megatron



Lion Nation

DLB 12-01-2013 06:16 PM

calvin's easily the top WR in the NFL

he could've saved Ryan Leaf's career if he was a WR for the chargers during that time

Meth 12-01-2013 09:27 PM

Lol. He was with the dolphins before.

That doesn't count.

The dolphins ruin receivers.

Except now. Tannehill shows promise.

DLB 12-01-2013 09:28 PM

nah

top WRs can be dominant on almost any team

Meth 12-01-2013 09:31 PM

Not consistently.

Lol.

Lol.

If the quarterback can't get you the ball it doesn't matter how good you are.

DLB 12-01-2013 09:35 PM

as i said

almost any team, throwing the ball up on a 1 on 1 is not hard unless the person holding u is like aqib talib from the pats

Meth 12-01-2013 09:43 PM

1 on 1 skill might be the worst measure of a wide receiver.

That means you can jump higher lol so what?

Jerry Rice was slow and his vertical wasn't very good.

And he's the best receiver to ever do it.

Route trees, acceleration, agility, releases, breaks, smarts, balance, etc.

All better measures of a wide reviewer than who can catch a jump ball.

Tom Sparks 12-01-2013 09:47 PM

He's a slot receiver, a glorified scat back comin off 5 yard in/out routes and bubble screens.. When he catches the ball, the ball 95% of the time travels 10 yards or less

The big boys play on the outside

He ain't top 10

TYSON 12-01-2013 09:51 PM

Welker top 10 doing it now

Fart 12-01-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 219254)
Welker top 10 doing it now

yeap
even tho he has a lot of qb help hes still beast as fuck. lol

DLB 12-01-2013 10:23 PM

idk

every time i see welker play, it's a facepalm. the botched call to have the broncos lose against the pats was called by me before it even happened, wes welker is a fuck up in crunch time, so much. he's not catching anything clutch, he drops them. he just runs bubbles and hitches and gets blocks. he not the one catching vertical routes on any team, he's not even the #1 receiver. he's like the 2 or 3 at ALL times.

Fart 12-01-2013 10:45 PM

seems like youve only seen his last 3 games. but youre right hes been sucking recently

DLB 12-01-2013 10:47 PM

no
more than that


basically his upbringing on the New England Bradys and from there, on
he's not THAT good, he's decent

Meth 12-01-2013 10:52 PM

I think his inglorious last 3 games has been more the ineptitude of manning/opponent.

Firstly, his mistake on the punt return. Was his fault. For sure. No question.

But as a receiver. You done play in New England for 6 years and the come back and get the best of Belicheck. He knows him too well . The other 2 games are division games against a division rival. So... Yeah.

Anyway, he's still the best slot guy in the game and probably ever. However, the slot wasn't a position every play in the nfl until welker went to New England really. That's when the nfl turned the corner into a full out passing league. Spread the defense and make plays. Before welker the Patriots were a I form team for yearrrrrrs.

So really you can say this. Welker was SO good that he changed the Patriots into what we know them as now.

Boo ya.

Meth wins.

:)


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