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Masaii 09-30-2013 10:17 PM

Pancake brah - Gym Question
 
Im thinking of completely switching my body type to a more cut/bruce lee type.

Ive only ever done bulking, 3 sets of 10 and strength training back in the day with the 5 sets of 5.

Now if I was to cut it would change my body dramatically cause im bulked atm.

How many sets should I do cause I keep reading conflicting info. Is 4 sets of 15 good? or should I go as high as 20 reps?

Im 5'11 200 pounds atm if that helps at all.

@cake

NYCSPITZ 09-30-2013 10:22 PM

scientifically sets @ 12-15 reps plus 200 push ups minimum per day will get u ripped.

NYCSPITZ 09-30-2013 10:23 PM

my physique is like that of a greek god

Diode 09-30-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSPITZ (Post 165435)
scientifically sets @ 12-15 reps plus 200 push ups minimum per day will get u ripped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXO2azb3_PE

Masaii 09-30-2013 10:25 PM

should i do 4 sets of 15 or 3 sets of 15?

edit: lol dommazzetti the gawd

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:26 PM

@Diode

Whenever I've cut weight I actually decrease volume and focus on retaining strength through the weight loss. The only time I've done a bodybuilding type training is when I was first starting off at the gym. My entire spectrum of weightlifting knowledge is geared towards strength. If you're looking for advice for keeping muscle mass while cutting I'm not entirely confident in my knowledge in that area. My guess would be to cut down volume slightly as your taking in less calories. For keeping mass just reduce exercises but keep the bodybuilding set/rep scheme (the 3 by 10). Your question confuses me, actually. Increasing your volume of weightlifting while maintaining or reducing your caloric intake would constitute a cut (i.e. the high reps you're talking about), but the only type of cutting weight I've done is adding HIIT and LISS cardio while slightly reducing my weightlifting (which is for the most part strength work)

I hope this helps, but probably not.

Diode 09-30-2013 10:30 PM

@Masaii there are books on this by qualified people who have a ton of experience and either professional success or scientific education on the subject. they are usually very affordable since it's a niche market. you should check amazon.

you should not follow broscience.

cake has the best answer in this thread because he was honest.

+1 cake for today and today only

NYCSPITZ 09-30-2013 10:33 PM

lmfaoo @ diode...

masaii j superset everything and run the 40 yard dash at least 4 times/ day imo...

Masaii 09-30-2013 10:36 PM

I just read a REALLY good article by some guy on HIIT.

Fuck I hate cardio though but I guess it has to be done.

Ill start the program when I finish my creatine cycle (in 2 mnths) and ill do b4/after pics to see if its actually worked for me.



Also one last question. Do you think you could stay cut and maintain strength using just body weight exercises?

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 165448)
+1 cake for today and today only

I thought we were making strides.

For shame.

Diode 09-30-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masaii (Post 165458)
creatine cycle (in 2 mnths) ?


please seek professional help and stop boarding this subject

"cycle" creatine

smh..

Ghost1 09-30-2013 10:39 PM

Sum1 post a new lifting routine for me to start.

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masaii (Post 165458)
I just read a REALLY good article by some guy on HIIT.

Fuck I hate cardio though but I guess it has to be done.

Ill start the program when I finish my creatine cycle (in 2 mnths) and ill do b4/after pics to see if its actually worked for me.



Also one last question. Do you think you could stay cut and maintain strength using just body weight exercises?

I'm not a fan of bodyweight exercises myself. I suppose for some people they work, but my body reacts to weight based resistance training. Other than pull ups and the occasional push up superset I don't mess with them. I'm of the opinion that if you switch from weightlifting to bodyweight training you'll lose strength both in the short and long run. But that's just a personal anecdote. I've read a lot of articles, though, that say bodyweight exercises aren't optimal for building, let alone maintaining, mass.

Masaii 09-30-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 165461)
please seek professional help and stop boarding this subject

"cycle" creatine

smh..

I only say cylce cause im going to finish my freshly purchased tub

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 165461)
please seek professional help and stop boarding this subject

"cycle" creatine

smh..

There is a disagreement on whether 'cycling' creatine is effective or not. The most knowledgeable weightlifter I know advocates a loading phase then maintaining 5mg for three weeks then a week off, and repeat.

Masaii 09-30-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ole Dirty Bagstard (Post 165462)
Sum1 post a new lifting routine for me to start.

Do you want me to write out my program? It focuses on strength/mass gains

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 165464)
I'm not a fan of bodyweight exercises myself. I suppose for some people they work, but my body reacts to weight based resistance training. Other than pull ups and the occasional push up superset I don't mess with them. I'm of the opinion that if you switch from weightlifting to bodyweight training you'll lose strength both in the short and long run. But that's just a personal anecdote. I've read a lot of articles, though, that say bodyweight exercises aren't optimal for building, let alone maintaining, mass.

True True I agree but i may be living in africa next yr and gyms arent really around so was thinking of getting a pullup bar and dip machine.

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:45 PM

Yeah, bodyweight would be better than nothing.

Diode 09-30-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 165468)
There is a disagreement on whether 'cycling' creatine is effective or not. The most knowledgeable weightlifter I know advocates a loading phase then maintaining 5mg for three weeks then a week off, and repeat.

The most knowledgeable scientists debunked "cycling" creating over 7 years ago.

PancakeBrah 09-30-2013 10:47 PM

Word. And there are studies that advocate it to this day. Not that I could bring one up. But arguing weighlifting "truths" is a folly I'm not trying to invest a bunch of time in.

Diode 09-30-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ole Dirty Bagstard (Post 165462)
Sum1 post a new lifting routine for me to start.

http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Stren.../dp/0982522738

If you feel you've progressed past that

http://www.amazon.com/Simplest-Effec...ds=wendler+531

And if you feel you are past that

http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Simple-...ler+531+beyond


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