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Tic 10-05-2015 10:50 AM

Flowing water on Mars
 
Yea yea a bit late, but the implications now that it's FACT are huge. If life exists on one of our closest neighbors, Mars, in these flowing waters during the warmer seasons, that is almost a guarantee that life is allllllllllll over the Universe. Thoughts?

Sovereign 10-05-2015 10:51 AM

I'm just going to sit back in this thread and watch as the idiots claim there's undoubtedly life on it.

sral 10-05-2015 10:55 AM

It's a mathematical probability there is life elsewhere in the universe, no?

@assburgers

Tic 10-05-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign (Post 537984)
I'm just going to sit back in this thread and watch as the idiots claim there's undoubtedly life on it.

Not undoubtedly, but you can't possibly say there isn't a good chance now that we found FLOWING WATER on it...

Tic 10-05-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 537985)
It's a mathematical probability there is life elsewhere in the universe, no?

@assburgers

Considering the amount of Exoplanets discovered and their relative position to their host star, yes. But I'd imagine this raises that probability quite a bit.

Amen. 10-05-2015 11:01 AM

nerd

Sovereign 10-05-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 537985)
It's a mathematical probability there is life elsewhere in the universe, no?

@assburgers

I'd say that it's more likely than not.

Interestingly, if we assume that the universe is infinite in size (or near-infinite), it disproves the concept that instantaneous travel is possible by contradiction. If instantaneous travel were possible, undoubtedly some hyper-advanced civilization would have turned us into computing material by now. (Unless, of course, you want to get into odd metaphysics or simulation hypotheses, in which case I can't really help you.)

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Originally Posted by Tic (Post 537986)
Not undoubtedly, but you can't possibly say there isn't a good chance now that we found FLOWING WATER on it...

There's lots of flowing water in the universe. The presence of water doesn't necessarily lead to life; conversely, life doesn't necessarily need water. Only Earth's life does, and we have no guarantee that life anywhere else in the universe would be even similar.

Witty 10-05-2015 11:06 AM

Anywhere on earth there is water, there is life.

This is a huge discovery, but not exactly evidence of life, it just increases the iikelihood.

puravida 10-05-2015 11:06 AM

we can't even deal with life here.

Witty 10-05-2015 11:08 AM

If instananeous travel were possible I don't see how that would mean we would have been turned in to computing material by now?

An infinite universe does not guarantee an hyper advanced civilisation, for a start.

Tic 10-05-2015 11:16 AM

Life in the Universe may not need water, correct, but as Witty said, everywhere there is water on Earth there is life. That's not to say that wherever there is water there is life elsewhere, but it increases the likelihood astronomically.

I believe we have been visited before and continue to be visited by Extraterrestrials. Call me crazy but there are way too many red flags from all the Ancient Civilizations for me not to believe.

Destroyer 10-05-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign (Post 537989)
I'd say that it's more likely than not.

Interestingly, if we assume that the universe is infinite in size (or near-infinite), it disproves the concept that instantaneous travel is possible by contradiction. If instantaneous travel were possible, undoubtedly some hyper-advanced civilization would have turned us into computing material by now. (Unless, of course, you want to get into odd metaphysics or simulation hypotheses, in which case I can't really help you.)



There's lots of flowing water in the universe. The presence of water doesn't necessarily lead to life; conversely, life doesn't necessarily need water. Only Earth's life does, and we have no guarantee that life anywhere else in the universe would be even similar.

This isn't necessarily true. We live in a carbon-based universe. It's quite logical to assume that water, which is abundant in the universe, and a pretty simple compound of hydrogen and oxygen, both of which are extremely abundant in the universe, could be a necessary building block or requirement of all life.

puravida 10-05-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 537994)
This isn't necessarily true. We live in a carbon-based universe. It's quite logical to assume that water, which is abundant in the universe, and a pretty simple compound of hydrogen and oxygen, both of which are extremely abundant in the universe, could be a necessary building block or requirement of all life.

This.


Agreed

sral 10-05-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign (Post 537989)
I'd say that it's more likely than not.

So life elsewhere isn't a mathematical probability?


1. As soon as the earth was suitable for life, life appeared. Though not proof, it does kinda hint that life isn't that hard once the conditions are right.

2. Large numbers of the different parts of life have been shown to spontaneously form from filling a flask with the chemicals that were on the earth when it formed, and zapping them with sparks ( lightning )

3. The Universe is big. REALLY big. I'm not sure you're getting how big it is. There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on the entire earth. So even if life is very unlikely to start, which evidence doesn't really show it is, you still have 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 rolls of the dice to get life. And that's just now! The universe has been rolling those dice for around for 13,700,000,000 years, and will keep rolling them for many more billions of years to come.

All that strongly suggests life elsewhere is probable.

sral 10-05-2015 11:37 AM

Are you a gambling man, assburgers?

Chill Phil 10-05-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tic (Post 537983)
Yea yea a bit late, but the implications now that it's FACT are huge. If life exists on one of our closest neighbors, Mars, in these flowing waters during the warmer seasons, that is almost a guarantee that life is allllllllllll over the Universe. Thoughts?

they've already got a line up of people to go to mars and try to live there

Amen. 10-05-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tic (Post 537993)
Life in the Universe may not need water, correct, but as Witty said, everywhere there is water on Earth there is life. That's not to say that wherever there is water there is life elsewhere, but it increases the likelihood astronomically.

I believe we have been visited before and continue to be visited by Extraterrestrials. Call me crazy but there are way too many red flags from all the Ancient Civilizations for me not to believe.

you are one of them

that nose can not be human bruh

Tic 10-05-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 537999)
they've already got a line up of people to go to mars and try to live there

Wasn't that a Hoax? I thought someone told me it was. Either way, as @sraL said, the Universe is incomprehensibly large. There are hundreds of billions of stars in almost every galaxy (some more, some less). Let's say there is even 1 planet per star (very conservative), that's 100,000,000,000 x 100,000,000,000 = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!!! That's 10 sextillion opportunities for there to be life. Not every planet has life, so let's say the percentage of life were 1 out of a hundred billion (1/100,000,000,000), there would still be 100 billion planets with life, lol.....it's insane.

uh-oh 10-05-2015 12:25 PM

I was under the impression there is EVIDENCE of flowing water something to do with salt deposits or some shit. They didnt actually FIND flowing water just evidence there could be

As sovereign noted tho you might not need water for life. Weve found life in like sulfuric acidic pools of death on earth. The fact mars is such a desolate nothingness makes me think life there is impossible. If we could land and recover shit from venus i think there is a higher chance of finding some weird acidic bacteria there than finding water based life on mars

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uh-oh 10-05-2015 12:27 PM

Also aliens have never been here. Ancient man doesnt get enough credit for his achievements.


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