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sral 07-08-2015 04:30 PM

THE OFFICIAL NETCEES "HOW IMPORTANT IS GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION IN TEXT?" THREAD
 
So I read (maybe even voted?) on a @Destroyer battle last week in the LGPA and saw the Norwegian brethren @Objective absolutely tear dudes verse apart in his vote for the poor grammar and/or punctuation used in it. Obj went full on MY NEIGHBOURS A DICK SO I'M TAKING IT OUT ON THE NEAREST NCG TO HIS AGE mode on Des in his breakdown haha!

Text never been that serious to me, I've certainly no problem with others grammar or punctuation, it's just never been that important to me. Infact, in text battles for the NBL or whatever having that lack of grammar or punctuation can actually help you out conceptually and whatever IMO

I've never seen it be too huge a problem in topical battles either in fairness, but apparently in poetry it's srs business? They dedicated a whole feature to it in the LGPA mag but for the life of me I can't see how/when this matters in the slightest.

I'm dead ass serious, voting against someone because they forgot a comma or two seems harsh as fuck to me, and I certainly don't advocate it. It seems some people here disagree though?

What's the deal bruhs?

Split Eight 07-08-2015 04:33 PM

Personally

ifyou put a shitty sentence together and make me read it twice to figure it out, I'm thinking less of your verse as a result

sometimes people are like "damn y'all need to read better my verse was clearly about XXXX YYYY"

then you open their battle again and realize they used about 10 words wrong and generally fucked themselves with their bad writing


If you put a comma in the wrong place idgaf
but sometimes the sentence makes sense in a way you didn't mean so you just shoot yourself in the foot

Razah 07-08-2015 04:37 PM

It only makes a difference to me as far as 'flow'.

Sometimes I'll throw a comma in a random ass place because that's how I would rap it, even though grammatically it doesn't belong there.

Besides that, I could give a shit less. As long as I'm able to actually understand what is being said, then it's all good in my book.

Sn00p 07-08-2015 05:01 PM

Well, it IS something different with poems. Poems are almost by definition really condensed. And that makes everything have greater meaning than it usually does. And this extends to commas. That said, however, punctuation is not always important. So I wouldn't vote against anyone based on their punctuation either. But if you use it masterfully, I might vote FOR you.

Witty 07-08-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razah (Post 501913)
It only makes a difference to me as far as 'flow'.

Sometimes I'll throw a comma in a random ass place because that's how I would rap it, even though grammatically it doesn't belong there.

Besides that, I could give a shit less. As long as I'm able to actually understand what is being said, then it's all good in my book.


Hush 07-08-2015 05:31 PM

Yeah, I'm starting to this his neighbor isn't the asshole.

dead man 07-08-2015 05:35 PM

spelling is important. its text so wtf. spell shit right.

grammar is iffy because you have people in battles who want to type how they speak, or at least how they speak when they're acting like rappers so they have all kinds of goofy slang and shit in their verses. there's a line there but it's a fuzzier one.

Hush 07-08-2015 05:38 PM

LOL at its important spell shit right
aight bet
lets cancel all these leagues and just hold a spelling b k?

or maybe we just do a words with friends tournament instead

dead man 07-08-2015 05:39 PM

also, correct me if i'm wrong, but @Objective is not a native english speaker so his mentality as far as grammar in verses might be skewed from a native who processes the words more naturally.

dead man 07-08-2015 05:43 PM

@Hush

we rarely if ever are voting on the same battles so maybe that comes into play?

if i'm reading an open mic verse and this guy can't spell i am instantly less interested. it's an integrity thing bro. any point you're making is weakened if you can't even use your medium correctly.

Eŋg 07-08-2015 05:44 PM

eats shoots and leaves:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multim..._02_87272c.jpg

eats, shoots and leaves:

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Witty 07-08-2015 05:45 PM

I agree about spelling, but punctuation? idgaf.

Hush 07-08-2015 05:45 PM

Yeah
My grammar is really bad and I will be delving into open Mics and poems
I think my ideas are strong enough to stand on there own merit


Look forward to ur critique

Hush 07-08-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eŋg (Post 501944)

Bahrzda hari
Moreover repped

dead man 07-08-2015 05:46 PM

their*

Hush 07-08-2015 05:46 PM

Neged

El Muffin 07-08-2015 05:49 PM

I love Grammer crackers

dead man 07-08-2015 05:54 PM

on a side note, i just read objective's vote and he didn't really tear destroyer's verse apart at all.. just mentioned he would like to see better punctuation. but gave des props and said his entry was dope. but punctuation didn't appear to be his sole critique or even the reason he voted for inno.

this thread is interesting, don't get me wrong, but its basis is definitely a bit exaggerated.

sral 07-08-2015 05:55 PM

Why the need for the whole magazine article that followed though?

Witty 07-08-2015 05:55 PM

Obviously it's important to have commas for full comprehension of the piece and to keep the flow intact, but other than that I really don't care.


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