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namix 08-17-2013 03:54 PM

Audio Writing
 
insightful feedback only please, and no clowns if avoidable lol

imma do my first audio in a minute - and having made the transition from text to audio writing a while back, it wasnt as seemless as i expected.

but in terms of strictly 'audio lyricism' - i think i was improving my audio writing by my last drop (last summer), but any feedback on what i should work on this time around? in terms of flow/etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkA4lnsIqKE


i'll worry about my voice and shit when im on the verge of becoming famous yo lol, until then i'll work on whats more readily in my control ;)

Certain 08-17-2013 04:02 PM

I don't want to make this about your voice, since you said not to, but I think it's important to write to your own voice. Your annunciation isn't great when your assonance or rhymes get too heavy. Perhaps stripping down a bit on that end of the complexity would make it a bit easier to understand. Then again, that echo effect may be the biggest culprit.

I also thought you pronounced words strangely a few times simply to get the rhyme. The advantage of rhyming off the same sound for an entire verse is much more evident in text than on audio, so don't be afraid to switch up. Besides, you already had a whole bunch of pauses (which I didn't care for because they were so numerous) where the rhyme switch would have been very natural.

Edit: I actually liked this a lot. Your wordplay translated better than I would have expected, though having a lyric video definitely helps that. I thought "wiping away the dirt poor like Oxyclean" was probably the standout line. So there's no reason to go writing another whiny diss verse about how people criticize you. You're very, very good. The criticisms come out harsh because we all know that and know you know that.

Wise Wiggles 08-17-2013 04:06 PM

cool

green house line was dope imo

Xnub 08-17-2013 04:48 PM

This was dope. @namix

I think you rhyme waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many syllables tho.....

It almost sounds nursery rhyme-ish because you use so many multis.


Audio and Text, Apples and Oranges...

Try to dumb down your verse a little bit in your audio, and I think it will come off much smoother.

You just have to find your comfort zone w/ a mic, then you can start to switch shit up. Think simple... People's attention spans can't soak up all those syllables and wordplay w/ such a monotonous flow.

Possibly experiment w/ the way you spit each verse... For example, how ludacris changes his voice volume or tone... Or you can fuck w/ how fast you rhyme.

Def experiment w/ using different end rhymes... rhyming less syllables... Putting more emotion into the way you spit it, and diversifying your flow and delivery.

Xnub 08-17-2013 04:51 PM

Watch Fresco vs Rone.... Fresco's flow and delivery are top notch imo.

This is part of Fresco's first verse... I thought it was fire.

but since I'm white...
I got so many ways to diss you that I'm playful wit you
matrix kick you, make you think a fucking space ship hit you.
You find ya dad's gay porn mag so now he's angry wit you
cus you left a stain on every page you flipped through in the april issue
See, you want a good showing here tonight so I don't care if ya laughing.
You can't beat me at this hear. You would sware I was sampson.
I'd have to go off the head in his hometown to be fair when I'm rappin.
so on this stage.. he just trying to top himself like Marilyn Manson.
but your not like marilyn for the rest of it... So my bad if that's a diss to dude...
that comparisons just a testament to how Adam had some ribs removed.
Then God made the tree. You tried to shoot em' a prayer.
but what price would pay to eat the fruit it could bare.
I'll take the absolute value from the root of this square
and send him to a higher power when I cube it from there.
See, someday you'll get divorced but still in love w/ ya ex-wife.
even tho she take ya money and only let you have sex twice.
Then she'll whisk away to mexico and crash n' die on that express flight
and reincarnate in her next life as my fleshlight.
splash.

Dove Dozer 08-17-2013 05:01 PM

@namix link me to the audio i wanna hear this. Ill give honest helpful feedback

Xnub 08-17-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nO gOoD! (Post 122428)
@namix link me to the audio i wanna hear this. Ill give honest helpful feedback

it's a youtube video.... he did link it.

oats 08-17-2013 05:11 PM

This was actually pretty fresh to me.

Vulgar 08-17-2013 05:16 PM

Dope

Dove Dozer 08-17-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xnub (Post 122435)
it's a youtube video.... he did link it.

Right. But my phones being gay so i need tha actual link to it. Or at least the name of it to search youtube

Xnub 08-17-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulgar (Post 122438)
Dope

Very insightful...

Jeez, is this guy just TOO good to critique or something?

Last thing I'll say, because I know my opinion isn't respected much here... but if there was a hierarchy for what makes good text...

It might go:

1) Concepts/Creativity
2) Word Play/Similes/Metaphor
3) Flow/Wording

However, Audio might be:

1) Cadence(flow)/wording
2) Voice/Presence
3) Wordplay/metaphors etc
4) concepts/message


Just my 2 cents... I thought it was dope too, don't get me wrong. I DEFINITELY see some room for improvement though.



edit: @nO gOoD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jkA4lnsIqKE

Vulgar 08-17-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xnub (Post 122447)
Very insightful...

Jeez, is this guy just TOO good to critique or something?

Last thing I'll say, because I know my opinion isn't respected much here... but if there was a hierarchy for what makes good text...


lol you alright buddy? I suck at audio and I liked this enough to download it, so I called it dope.

Certain 08-17-2013 05:53 PM

It's one thing to offer feedback. It's another to criticize other people's.

Dove Dozer 08-17-2013 09:39 PM

This was mad nice @namix.

I think its just all down to experience, but this came off nice.

Flow was dope and your delivery was real solid for someone who is new to audio format. I liked your presence. Which i think with practice, your gonna find yourself. Try different themes. Sad happy club style.. diversify the mood your in when spitting on the mic and your golden.

Real solid peice here bruh. Keep this up.

Holler.

namix 08-18-2013 11:59 AM

good feedback fellas

i get what you're saying serpent - good breakdown. likewise xnub & no good, preciate it.

thanks for the love vulgar, glad you dug it bro

Rawn M.D. 08-18-2013 12:43 PM

@namix I got u on the audio forefront u already kno

holla at ya boy


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