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dead man 12-16-2013 04:58 PM

does anyone here brew their own beer?
 
@Pent uP is the only one i know

im interested in starting a little home-brew but I'm not sure i have the space. I've heard it takes a good amount of room for equipment if you wanna do it right. true or false?

Boredom 12-16-2013 05:13 PM

never done it my self, homies dad a good operation and that guy made some wiiiiicked home brew. drank a lot of it growing up. from what i remember it's not that much space... a couple barrels that sit depending on how much your making... not 100 how he did the bottling carbonation process tho..

google is your frieend

Diode 12-16-2013 05:25 PM

it is expensive, time consuming, and labor intensive.

i'd avoid jumping into that money pit unless you are really, really into it.

i am a total beer nerd and ultimately decided against it after numerous false starts.

dead man 12-16-2013 05:51 PM

word @Diode. i've had people give me similar warnings in the past. what went wrong specifically?

I'm sitting here drinking this ommegang adoration ale and it's making me want to create something like this so i can drink it all the time.

Certain 12-16-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dead man (Post 229192)
word @Diode. i've had people give me similar warnings in the past. what went wrong specifically?

I'm sitting here drinking this ommegang adoration ale and it's making me want to create something like this so i can drink it all the time.

But ... you can't.

Good things aren't easy to make.

The beer you create inevitably will not be as good as beers made by professionals with more resources and experience. People tend to convince themselves that what they create is better than it actually is, so you may get a short-term or even long-term rush of competence. But it's false.

And you have to drink an entire keg of it instead of moving on to the next beer after a six pack.

PancakeBrah 12-16-2013 05:56 PM

Certain seems to be in put down mode today.

dead man 12-16-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 229195)
Certain seems to be in put down mode today.


Wise Wiggles 12-16-2013 05:56 PM

@debbie downer

I've tasted plenty of exceptional homebrews

dead man 12-16-2013 05:57 PM

no shit my first attempt in my life wouldn't be on the level of ommegang.

but it would be fun to experiment with different spices and flavors and shit to make a nice belgium ale of my own one day.

sounds like you've got a case of the mondays..

Certain 12-16-2013 06:03 PM

I'm going to go write a verse that's going to be just as good as that dead man one!

I'm sure I'll succeed because my mother said I'm special!

Certain 12-16-2013 06:09 PM

I really like this computer, so I'm going to build one.

Certain 12-16-2013 06:10 PM

Boy, The Wire is a great TV show. Maybe I'll try to write a TV show just as good.

Split 12-16-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 229194)

Good things aren't easy to make.

The _____ you create inevitably will not be as good as _____ made by professionals with more resources and experience. People tend to convince themselves that what they create is better than it actually is, so you may get a short-term or even long-term rush of competence. But it's false.

U wot mate

That's an ambitious claim.

You wouldn't be able to produce something to specifications in mass quantities as well as someone who does it for a living

But we're talking about actually creating or emulating recipes in small batches of brew

There's no reason why you CAN'T make something good on a personal use level

In fact, anyone who has done any hobby would know that a lot of the time it is garage-sized operations that produce the most desirable equipment

Diode 12-16-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead man (Post 229192)
word @Diode. i've had people give me similar warnings in the past. what went wrong specifically?

I'm sitting here drinking this ommegang adoration ale and it's making me want to create something like this so i can drink it all the time.

keeping everything sterile in homebrewing is up there with growing mushrooms in vermiculite in difficulty level.

dead man 12-16-2013 06:20 PM

there's nothing you cannot learn to do with time and application. see: neuroplasticity

you could make a computer or write at TV show. you could write a TV show in even less time since you already spend a lot of time writing.

Certain 12-16-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight (Post 229203)
U wot mate

That's an ambitious claim.

You wouldn't be able to produce something to specifications in mass quantities as well as someone who does it for a living

But we're talking about actually creating or emulating recipes in small batches of brew

There's no reason why you CAN'T make something good on a personal use level

In fact, anyone who has done any hobby would know that a lot of the time it is garage-sized operations that produce the most desirable equipment

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead man (Post 229215)
there's nothing you cannot learn to do with time and application. see: neuroplasticity

you could make a computer or write at TV show. you could write a TV show in even less time since you already spend a lot of time writing.

Fair. My wording was not as exact as it should have been.

More precisely, it requires a lot of time, testing and effort to make something great. Now, if you want to take a well-worn recipe and replicate, sure, you can do that. Perhaps that's what dead man wants. It still isn't easy, but it's much more foolproof.

But going beyond that is difficult. It's not about the size of the operation as much as the investment in time, effort and capital (of various types). Very few people do great things on whims.

Also, Split Eight, you are being flagged for incorrect use of "u wot mate."

PancakeBrah 12-16-2013 06:21 PM

shut up split eight. ill wreck u m8

Objective 12-16-2013 06:22 PM

It's easy once you get into it, but takes a little bit of work and some how-to reads in order to do it well. Either way it's a cheap way to get a shitbunch of beer and when you nail it you get quite a bit that tastes allright.

We also made about 50 liters of wine for one of our new years eve parties a few years back. Didn't get any complaints and everyone got shitfaced.

I recommend doing it, just don't expect the first batch or two to taste like heaven.

Certain 12-16-2013 06:35 PM

And yeah, I'm feeling surly.

And no, I'm not biting Diode. Diode seems happier than me.

PancakeBrah 12-16-2013 06:37 PM

Diode has a lot of secret pain in his heart though.


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