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...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:15 AM

had a Roy Jones vs Bruce Lee argument and it pissed me off
 
Roy Jones would wash Bruce Lee son

super pimp trillionaire 06-11-2013 08:15 AM

stay pissed.

God Of War 06-11-2013 08:17 AM

Roy Jones would get broken by Bruce Lee, It isn't even a question of if it would or would not happen but more of a how bad would it happen type question.

super pimp trillionaire 06-11-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 73555)
Roy Jones would get broken by Bruce Lee, It isn't even a question of if it would or would not happen but more of a how bad would it happen type question.

^.

...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:22 AM

how so @gow?

Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter.

Roy jones beat 50 FREAKIN PPL IN A ROW SON, GROWN MEN, WITHOUT GETTIN TOUCHED

Roy Jones, would without question, wash Bruce Lee

...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:25 AM

House is a great show, but House would never do my surgery

Enter the Dragon was a classic. like seriously, one of the greatest kung fu flicks ever
but cmon son, bruce lee weighed 130 lbs soakin wet. he was in shape, and did pretty moves on camera

but we talking about a prize fighter who is a hall of fame boxer in (one of the) best eras in boxing

no, bruce doesn't win

he didn't even compete. he just made movies?

Its a difference between doing scripted beautiful kung fu moves on camera, and going out in a field and fightin yo

God Of War 06-11-2013 08:26 AM

Bruce Lee was a fighter though bro. He had to fight to get his martial arts to become an actual style. Bruce Lee fought his entire life and just check this out my G

7. Want to challenge Bruce Lee? Just tap your foot on the ground!
After he got famous, a lot of people thought they could beat Bruce - they would walk up to him, tap their foot on the ground (symbolizing a challenge) and then proceed to attack him! Well... maybe not that literal, but Bruce's popularity certainly attracted a lot nutcase trying to prove they're better than him.

One day, while filming Enter the Dragon, an extra taunted Bruce Lee and challenged him to fight. The whole thing went on like this:

"This kid was good. He was no punk. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart."

"I mean Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...Then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass into the wall and swept him, he proceeded to drop his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly."

Typical of Bruce Lee, after the fight he didn't fire the extra - he actually gave his challenger lesson on how to improve!

8. Bruce Lee was Strong
In 1964, Bruce was invited to a karate championship in Long Beach, California. There he performed his famous "One Inch Punch," where he would deliver a devastating blow from only an inch away, sending his opponent flying back!


[YouTube Link]

Bob Baker of Stockton, whom Bruce hit, said "I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable."

... and Fast!
Most martial art films are sped up to make fighting scenes appear fast, but not Bruce Lee's. His moves were too fast to be captured on the regular 24 frames per second film - so they had to film him at 32 fps, and run the film slower so you can see his moves.

trap. 06-11-2013 08:27 AM

I don't know why I'm going to explain to you why Bruce Lee would win but it's based on one thing. Roy Jones fought his whole career defending himself from someone's hands. Bruce Lee does more than that. He could wax Roy just with a kick. Unless you want to further explain your statement with "in a boxing ring" but even then, Bruce's hands were quicker than Roy's.

Plus man, he beat Chuck Norris and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. C'mon son.

uh-oh 06-11-2013 08:29 AM

bruce lee fought a bunch of martial arts dudes

bruce lee would probably get him. i dont think it would be a one sided slaughter tho. prime roy jones was an animal. not sure about bruce lees grapple game. it would come down to bruce lees feet.

if he could keep away for A LONG TIME. then bruce lee could probably nitpick him

but i dunno YO

roy jones was one of the nastiest most efficient boxers of all time. im pretty sure he holds the record for NEVER being punched in a whole round of boxing. when he fought vinnie pazienza, vinnie was throwing at air for a whole round, while getting WORKED

roy jones is nasty

if bruce lee is efficient at grappling it could be alot different

but i could see both arguments

roy jones is also a giant compared to bruce lee.

...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 73561)
Bruce Lee was a fighter though bro. He had to fight to get his martial arts to become an actual style. Bruce Lee fought his entire life and just check this out my G

7. Want to challenge Bruce Lee? Just tap your foot on the ground!
After he got famous, a lot of people thought they could beat Bruce - they would walk up to him, tap their foot on the ground (symbolizing a challenge) and then proceed to attack him! Well... maybe not that literal, but Bruce's popularity certainly attracted a lot nutcase trying to prove they're better than him.

One day, while filming Enter the Dragon, an extra taunted Bruce Lee and challenged him to fight. The whole thing went on like this:

"This kid was good. He was no punk. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart."

"I mean Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...Then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass into the wall and swept him, he proceeded to drop his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly."

Typical of Bruce Lee, after the fight he didn't fire the extra - he actually gave his challenger lesson on how to improve!

8. Bruce Lee was Strong
In 1964, Bruce was invited to a karate championship in Long Beach, California. There he performed his famous "One Inch Punch," where he would deliver a devastating blow from only an inch away, sending his opponent flying back!


[YouTube Link]

Bob Baker of Stockton, whom Bruce hit, said "I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again. When he punched me that last time, I had to stay home from work because the pain in my chest was unbearable."

... and Fast!
Most martial art films are sped up to make fighting scenes appear fast, but not Bruce Lee's. His moves were too fast to be captured on the regular 24 frames per second film - so they had to film him at 32 fps, and run the film slower so you can see his moves.

What does this prove?

we know he's fast. the moves are scripted tho. even if they aren't scripted all the way thru, they're scripted to the point that you can't interrupt Bruce?

imagine Roy Hittin a speed bag? he would look mighty fast bro

and that extra wasn't on the level of Roy Jones Jr? If he was, we'd prolly at least know his name

Joe Metts 06-11-2013 08:32 AM

Yall treating Roy like he's pernell whitaker tho.

He had offense and the quickest hands since ali.

EtH 06-11-2013 08:33 AM

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.

trap. 06-11-2013 08:34 AM

Metts, no-one is treating him that way. Roy Jones is the greatest .. at boxing. Bruce Lee was the greatest in martial arts, which encompasses boxing (in a variation) and MUCH more. Bruce Lee was the best, if not one of the best, in any form of fighting he tried.

God Of War 06-11-2013 08:34 AM

man no one was as quick as bruce lee ever, and not to mention bruce lee was trained in grappling, and by one fo the best martial arts teachers there was then proceeded to dominate it. lee also fought in boxing tournaments and martial art tournaments when he was young. bruce lee stopped ebcause he loved the art of fighting and focused on it and didnt like to be pinned with rules. roy jones is no where near as trained as bruce lee was. nor as skillful

God Of War 06-11-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 73568)
I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.


thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trap (Post 73562)
I don't know why I'm going to explain to you why Bruce Lee would win but it's based on one thing. Roy Jones fought his whole career defending himself from someone's hands. Bruce Lee does more than that. He could wax Roy just with a kick. Unless you want to further explain your statement with "in a boxing ring" but even then, Bruce's hands were quicker than Roy's.

Plus man, he beat Chuck Norris and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. C'mon son.

no disrespect but chuck norris and kareem aren't 20% of Roy Jones put together

and no, I'm talking about outside in the street, like they got in an argument somehow and decided to throw down

Roy would wash Bruce. Bruce would get a few kicks in tho

but imagine that one time when he kicks his leg up and counters Bruce right in his DOME

...the Nagger 06-11-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 73563)
bruce lee fought a bunch of martial arts dudes

bruce lee would probably get him. i dont think it would be a one sided slaughter tho. prime roy jones was an animal. not sure about bruce lees grapple game. it would come down to bruce lees feet.

if he could keep away for A LONG TIME. then bruce lee could probably nitpick him

but i dunno YO

roy jones was one of the nastiest most efficient boxers of all time. im pretty sure he holds the record for NEVER being punched in a whole round of boxing. when he fought vinnie pazienza, vinnie was throwing at air for a whole round, while getting WORKED

roy jones is nasty

if bruce lee is efficient at grappling it could be alot different

but i could see both arguments

roy jones is also a giant compared to bruce lee.

yea, Bruce was only 130 man smh. he would LITERALLY get his head punched off

EtH 06-11-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 73571)
thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

I've watched the same Bruce Lee films that you have. You must have watched his millions of well documented fights.

Joe Metts 06-11-2013 08:38 AM

Dumbest argument ever honestly.

So im out.

But idk who id pick. I know jack shit about bruce lee. Never seen a movie.

trap. 06-11-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 73572)
no disrespect but chuck norris and kareem aren't 20% of Roy Jones put together

and no, I'm talking about outside in the street, like they got in an argument somehow and decided to throw down

Roy would wash Bruce. Bruce would get a few kicks in tho

but imagine that one time when he kicks his leg up and counters Bruce right in his DOME

I was fucking with you on that Norris / Jabbar shit.

I could see Roy winning every one to two times out of ten that they fought. I'll give Roy that, just because once in a while, he has to get lucky / catch him off guard, especially if this is a street fight.

Here's where we go into all these "what-if's" though..


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