the Kajieme Powell shooting video
 

released yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54...ctr=1408655376

http://www.newsweek.com/new-video-po...emerges-266041

not to mention, this is in ST. LOUIS

kid was half their size and armed with a knife (allegedly)

over 2 energy drinks.

i don't even know anymore..

Knife or not, if the police yell "put the knife down" multiple times and you keep moving towards them yelling "shoot me"... what do you think is going to happen?

Shitty situation

To shoot him that many times is excessive then to handcuff a corpse is ridiculous.

Oh lawd

This gon spark up the race war again

I feel like we had reached a small bit of common ground since treyvon here on nc...this will not bode well


Couldnt they have just knee capped the kid tho? Iunno seemed pretty brutal.

A race war on netcees? Lol never. 95% white male of which 73% wants to be black.

I truly don't want to start a debate.

Handcuffing is protocol. It's cold, it's fucked up, but they legally had to. As they can't "pronounce him dead" so they have to act as if he isn't. I'm sure they didn't like doing it either.

And the shots were in rapid succession, that lasted all of two seconds. That's pure adrenalin. A knee jerk reaction because if you watch careful he makes a quick lunge motion towards them.


I'm by no means defending them. But I do think this situation was pretty instigated.


As far as why they didn't shoot him in the leg, I think that's against protocol. I think leg shots are legally considered to be inhumane. If they're going to shoot their weapon I believe they're supposed to shoot to kill. I could be wrong about this though.

Ehhhh those percentages seem high

I think most of us have outgrown our wigger stages

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

If they shoot at all they going for the kill. No point in letting him live to sue the force and get people fired.

This I understand.

Its how quick they are to shoot is the unforgivable issue

Yea....but that logic is flawed....i mean his family will still pursue litigation against the force obv....and likely more agressively since he was killed

Just watched.

Wtf was that nigga doing.

They are. Lethal force is supposed to be a last resort.

I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that the cops were right in this situation. I wasn't there. I do think they acted within their "rights" just based off the video though.

They had their guns out almost immediately upon exiting their cars.


This could be because they're trigger happy.

However it could have also been because whoever called them there had already seen the knife. Or maybe it's a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence. Maybe whoever called the police exaggerated the situation and the severity putting the police on alert.

Then when the police arrived he had his hand in his pocket and wouldn't remove it (yelling at them to shoot him) and then lunged.

I know watching the video quite a bit of time passed, but those situations are much harder to gauge if you're right there in the thick of it. They don't get to pause it and see if there is a better option. They went from yelling, to (in their minds) defending themselves. Didn't really have time to swap out for the tazer.

The small excerpt i read said that the store clerk an the store accross tye street reported the kid had a knife

Its the same debate really tho as it ever is in these scenarios....

The police are granted their position to make split decisions involving life or death situations vs the police over reacted

Its not much to say that hasnt been said before

They could of tazed him. Didnt have to kill that man. Thats a fucked up vodeo.

he supposedly had a weapon. Nigga this aint OSAMA BIN LADEN FOUND DEAD OR ALIVE NGIGA THIS IS SHOOT THE BITCH WITH A WEAPON.

Knee caps? Motherfucker just kill me.

Cops are not intelligent or well-liked people growing up. That's why they become cops. They desperately want power to help overcome their social ineptitudes. Those are the most dangerous people to give power to.

No VERITAS.

some people are saying suicide by cop.

and it's obvious his intentions were to provoke the police. most likely as a result of the Michael Brown situation considering where this happened. clearly a bad move.

i'm not anti-cop whatsoever. i know plenty of good policeman personally. but these guys fucked up. should not have killed the kid. looks bad from almost every angle. financial, political, PR, etc.

aiight so when someone is threatening you and your partners life (seadad cause u guys are gay together) you can taze the dude with knife, just bring out your handy tazor and taze him STFU WIGGER BITCH.

Called his homie started stuntin and shit.

Got hella close. Movin lightweight quick.

Yeah police quick to shoot

But

He was doing too much.

"As tensions continue to flare over Brown's death, many question the circumstances under which the law justifies a police officer's use of deadly force. When faced with a perceived threat, why don't officers shoot to wound rather than shoot to kill?

The reason, according to law enforcement officials and experts on police accountability, is simple: Officers have long been trained to shoot to kill because that is the only way they say they can neutralize a threat. The idea of shooting someone in a limb is fiction.

"That's a Hollywood myth," John Firman, director of research, programs, and professional services at the International Association of Chiefs of Police, told The Huffington Post. "In all policy everywhere on force in any law enforcement agency in America, the bottom line statement should read: If you feel sufficiently threatened or if lives are threatened and you feel the need that you must use lethal force, then you must take out the suspect."

Firman said shooting to wound is impractical because "the likelihood of success is low." The officer may miss the target, leaving both the police and the public at risk, he said."

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08...-not-to-wound/

@Zen not sure why you quoted me for that? I said I thought it to be against protocol up there^^^^

Although the likelihood for success is a pretty good reason I hadn't thought of

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Lol. I think I hit the quote button accidentally. I'm high, so yeah.

ima fucka idiyote.

That shit was cold. Looked like it called for the tazer, they wasn't even trying to wait and talk about it though.

Damn bros.

Yeah they had more than enough time to take the taser out of their purses and hit him.

According to what....ur perspective from a youtube video shot 20 yards away

Lol

I think there are two sources for these problems. First is racism. Second is the over militarization of police forces.

I don't think cops are racist, not on the whole. And those that are, I believe, are not consciously racist, but seem to be the product of a system that has told them to keep a closer eye on black people. These aren't KKK members, but the more I see this ferguson shit the more it becomes apparent that people lack racial empathy. It sounds like a trite argument to make, but does anyone really think this would have happened to a white 18 year old in ferguson?

The police militarization is less nuanced, I think. Police have equipment that they aren't properly trained for, and will scarcely ever need except in the most extraordinary of circumstances. This changes their behavior. It's an interesting case study to see public opinions on policemen here in Asia - they are regarded as helpful guides and peacemakers, many don't carry firearms. I'm not suggesting that America can seamlessly adopt those measures, but I think it would do wonders for police/community relations to have a non-threatening unit of police that exists for community involvement and general betterment, not just for arresting criminals.

Police have one of the hardest, and worst jobs in the world. The pay is adequate at best, and you kinda have to be a dick because you never know who you're going to encounter. And there are some crazy fucked up fucks in the general population, even though most people are normal and law abiding. But they got some serious cleaning up to do, the least of which means some sensitivity training and historical context of race and behavior. Every urban cop should have to read WEB Dubois and James Baldwin IMO. Yay reading

THIS WAS EXTREMELY QUICK

nothing wrong with this at all. he got what he had coming. if you think different wake the fuck up

also on the subject of shooting legs, its still a lethal place to be hit, you will bleed out very easily if hit directly enough to actually make you lose the use of your legs. giant arteries and shit

but yea, definite suicide by cop. dude was a grade a retard

Wat was he even waiting there for

If he wasnt trying to start shit w the cops he wouldve just bounced....no1 was keeping him there

You guys are looking at the small picture too much. Suicide by cop is an adequate term here.


But what would drive a person to do that? Do you think this is the disease to the symptom?

delusions of grandeur

i'd go into the broken class system and remnants of segregation and intitutionalised racism and etc. if he didnt shout out his facebook and instagram in the video

he said shoot me and was allegedly wielding a weapon, and then made a charge at them?

@uh-oh I didn't hear that, but I have shitty speakers here. That definitely adds another level of extreme narcissism.

@big baby nobody is saying the dude behaved rationally or intelligently. but he stood on a wall, he didn't "make a charge." if he was brandishing a weapon that's one thing, but again, the question is - what causes a person to behave like this? because he's a crazy black man? or because there is institutionalized pressure and festering racial tension?

I'm not saying this man is free from blame. But cops are supposed to be above the average crazy guy. This video makes them seem trigger happy. but that's not my point - this is a synecdoche for a larger issue, and it gets washed out by details of these singular examples. poverty is the disease, these are flare ups. the undercurrent of systemic racism in the police force has only exacerbated the problem.

obv mk ultra mind control pawn or psychotic/suicidal

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wrong.

don't charge a cop with a weapon

obvious result is obvious

anyone trying to spin this is dumb

go ahead, let some lunatic within 3 ft of you swinging a knife lemee know what death is like