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TYSON 07-17-2013 03:57 AM

movie question
 
Has there been any movies where America was the enemy/bad guy? Seriously do they make any foreign movies depicting them fighting American terrorists? Or are we just the shit?

Masaii 07-17-2013 05:35 AM

Lol, dont you big headed faggots have America in the centre of all your school world maps, and split Europe in half? Lmao at that.

Meth 07-17-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Masaii (Post 98088)
Lol, dont you big headed faggots have America in the centre of all your school world maps, and split Europe in half? Lmao at that.

Never seen any 2d map like that.

Dominate 07-17-2013 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 98070)
Has there been any movies where America was the enemy/bad guy? Seriously do they make any foreign movies depicting them fighting American terrorists? Or are we just the shit?

Certainly not any American movies. Such a thing would be considered treasonous.

Does North Korea make movies? If so I'm sure you'd find one there

Lars 07-17-2013 06:40 AM

LOL @ THE IGNORANCE/STUPIDITY IN THIS THREAD

'DOES KOREA MAKE MOVIES?'

WOW

Fart 07-17-2013 11:53 AM

usa makes 99% of mainstream movies but i'm sure there's a few indies about how we suck

Strikta 07-17-2013 11:57 AM

These type of movies are yet to come.

In 20 years there will be.

anime_boners 07-17-2013 12:01 PM

you could consider Barefoot Gen

TYSON 07-17-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lars (Post 98097)
LOL @ THE IGNORANCE/STUPIDITY IN THIS THREAD

'DOES KOREA MAKE MOVIES?'

WOW

Yo fuck boy I don't fucking know If korea makes movies, I don't pay attention to them. I just never in my life heard of a movie where America is the enemy.

Masaii 07-17-2013 02:36 PM

You are all idiots. American movies are only mainstream in english speaking countries. Asian movies are mainly mainstream in their respective countries etc etc.

Inb4 muricah made all movies ever created.

Foreign cinema>hollywood

Strikta 07-17-2013 02:45 PM

Foreign cinema is NOT better than Hollywood/US cinema.

Let's get that straight right now.

Masaii 07-17-2013 02:48 PM

In my opinion it has more class. I enjoy both and my dvd collection is about 20% foreign. Just my opinion.

PancakeBrah 07-17-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Masaii (Post 98516)
You are all idiots. American movies are only mainstream in english speaking countries. Asian movies are mainly mainstream in their respective countries etc etc.

Inb4 muricah made all movies ever created.

Foreign cinema>hollywood

You do realize that your brazen and obvious anti-american attitude is just as short sighted and idiotic as blatant patriotism. Having a different opinion apart from the consensus doesn't make you smart. Its just a different form of following.

Every single debate is correct in a shade of grey. Settle down with the non sense.

Masaii 07-17-2013 02:49 PM

Read above post mini traps, yeah I said it.

Rawn M.D. 07-17-2013 02:56 PM

Yes n beheaded journalists r usually featured in blair witch type cinematography

PancakeBrah 07-17-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Masaii (Post 98529)
Read above post mini traps, yeah I said it.

This is not an isolated incident. You constantly rag on america.

Lars 07-18-2013 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 98510)
Yo fuck boy I don't fucking know If korea makes movies, I don't pay attention to them. I just never in my life heard of a movie where America is the enemy.

...exactly what I said. Ignorant motherfucker. They have some ladyboy flicks that's probably more your lane though, 'fuckboy'.

Wise Wiggles 07-18-2013 03:41 AM

A dope ass Korean movie is "The man from nowhere"


Watch that and then know..
..that you don't want to fuck with me.
...Cuz I do that shit.
...niggas

Ronic 07-18-2013 04:00 AM

Military aint gonna fund movie that makes them look like the enemy, all I'm sayin.

To be real, american government kind of like the "secondary" bad guy in a lotta hollywood shit tho. Transformers, dog. Decepticons are the main enemy, but government plays a small role as a minor league bad guy for a while there too, til the protagonist makes em get their shit straight some fuckin how. Startin to get real bored of that cliche actually. Oooh government's a dick ooh the secret service are douches ooh government conspiracy oh wait now its the concluding battle of the storyline and the governments on our side now, military strength, patriotism, murica's a cool guy, go murica! smfh

Objective 07-18-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Strikta (Post 98526)
Foreign cinema is NOT better than Hollywood/US cinema.

Let's get that straight right now.

THIS! Anyone who says anything else is fucking up.

Why? Because the ammount of SHIT foreign countries produce is extremely high compared to the dope/trash ratio the US have. I don't condone the extreme ammount of biting the US does tho' (read: Oldboy, Let me In, girl with the dragon tattoo etc.), beside of that the US is winning pretty bad. I do fucking love foreign movies, aint big for bollywood, but I've watched enough asian, scandinavian/european and other random productions to talk about it.

Not to mention the ammount of SHITTY actors asia puts into their movies. They got like a handful of great actors you see in every fucking movie they produce. And the rest is, more often than not, sorry excuses for side roles. Europe is a little bit better in that regard, but it can still be pretty poor nonetheless. In my honest opinion Hollywood is better overall, but once ''foreign countries'' put out some great stuff they can shit on Hollywood in terms of storytelling, emotion and quality, but the thing is that it's far from being consistent enough to be better.

As far as movies where the US is being the terrorist etc. all you gotta do is watch some japanese/asian movies about war, and every now and then the US/UK is the bad guys in animè and mangas as well. Especially in animes there's a shitload of hiroshima references etc. It's just that lately (after Astro Boy became a thing and the success with Mononoke basicly) they cater to the west too much for it to be a common thing. I also watched some middle eastern movie about a boy who was by his own after his parents got killed by some US bombing while he was away to buy groceries. After that he ended up trying to find a way to live by his own among the other homeless boys and girls with similar pasts. Emotional as fuck movie, just wish I remembered the title.

Disclaimer: All of this is personal opinion and based on my own fucked up perceptions and must not in any way be taken as fact.

Ronic 07-18-2013 05:04 AM

Mononke - my nigga!


Personally, the couple of middle eastern-based films I seen have been some of the most powerful, emotionally, I ever seen. US takes the cake as far as things like budget, special effects, acting for the most part, production, but honestly movies outside the US are most of the times better at exploring human nature. Whether its the writing or different directing style or what I dont know but just seems to be like that

Objective 07-18-2013 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronic (Post 99219)
Honestly movies outside the US are most of the times better at exploring human nature. Whether its the writing or different directing style or what I dont know but just seems to be like that

You're right, but once we start to watch movies from other countries we end up exploring the surface/quality shit. We're basicly just scratching the surface of movie productions from those places. And we can't base the entire hollywood vs the rest based on 50-100 great movies from SEVERAL other countries at once.

Start watching more from said countries and you can't get yourself to watch more than 30 mins. Which basicly boils down to my point, the trash/dope ratio is too huge to surpass the US when it comes down to it. But once it's quality it's better than the US in terms of human interraction/emotion, storytelling and creative cinematography. (Persepolis (Fra), Ameliè (Fra) and City of God (Bra) is perfect examples of that.) But France doesn't surpass the US in general, neither does Brazil.

The only real battle here is Hollywood vs Asia. But imo asia got too much trash to put up a real fight, especially after the digitalization of martial arts movies which put a huge black hole in the entire genre. But 13 Assassins shows that they still know how to make that shit, but yeah.. I don't know, I just seriously believe and feel that Hollywood wins on consistency over time. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong, I love movie debates.

Ronic 07-18-2013 05:57 AM

Amelie and City of God were incredible. Leon the Professional movie was rad too. Nah I agree with you pretty much man, but then I guess it comes down to cultural identity too - peeps in france might prefer shitty Euro movies to shitty US movies, while peeps in US are other way round. Frankly, everywhere got good films amongst the majority of trash and rubble, I dont get too caught up in where its from, I just wat c h the good shit lol

Objective 07-18-2013 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronic (Post 99229)
but then I guess it comes down to cultural identity too - peeps in france might prefer shitty Euro movies to shitty US movies, while peeps in US are other way round. Frankly, everywhere got good films amongst the majority of trash and rubble, I dont get too caught up in where its from, I just wat c h the good shit lol

Doubt it, unless you know the language. I'm from Norway/europe myself, holla at me if you want some recommendations from scandinavia, hah. Watching a shitty US movie is a lot better than watching a shitty european movie. Why? Cuz at least you don't have to read the subtitles. (I got a friend that refuses to watch movies in a language he don't understand, or with subtitles, due to it.) Beside of that; a shitty movie is a shitty movie no matter how you look at it, and if it's shitty it doesn't really matter what language it's in.

And word @ giving a fuck where it's from as long as it's great. Leon is dope as fuck, one of my fav assassins.

Ronic 07-18-2013 06:19 AM

@Objective for real I'll take those recommendations, always lookin for new stuff to dig my teeth into

Subtitles never really bothered me tbh, easier to watch without em but they never put me off too much. Last movie I saw from scandinavia - or actually it mighta been switzerland... anyway, As It Is In Heaven. Pretty good film actually. Also recommend The Diving Bell and Butterfly was excruciating but a reaaaaallly good film

Objective 07-18-2013 08:05 AM

@Ronic: As it is in Heaven is from Sweden, but yeah, it's definately a great movie. If you want some norwegian movies I'd recommend you to check out one of these:

Elling - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0279064/ (When his mother, who has sheltered him his entire 40 years, dies, Elling, a sensitive, would-be poet, is sent to live in a state institution. Don't read anything more about this movie before checking it out, the less you know about it, the better.)

King of Devil's Island - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1332134/ (Some fucked up movie based on revel events, and it's local history from where I'm from as well. Just a few years ago I lived at a place in my town where I could basicly see that island from my livingroom window.)

Mirush - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0899216/ (A movie about some albanian boy that flees to Norway to find his father.)

Sons - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473707/ (Fucked up movie, worth to check out.)

Max Manus - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029235/ (''The true story about one of the most brilliant saboteurs during World War II and his battle to overcome his inner demons.'' Brilliant movie.)

The Bothersome Man - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808185/ (My personal favourite and it's pretty fucking deep too. ''In a strange city where every person seems content beyond reason a new man arrives in town and stirs up trouble by asking too many questions.'')

Try to stay away from trailers etc., they're too revealing.

Ronic 07-18-2013 08:13 AM

Fuck. I got some downloadin to do lol cheers dude

Objective 07-18-2013 08:19 AM

No problem, I removed the King of the Devil's Island trailer tho'. Figured it was kinda revealing. If you enjoy these movies send me a PM or something I'll hit you with more recomendations.

Oh, sweet, The Bothersome Man is available on Netflix. So is King of the Devil's Island @Ronic. The norwegian titles pop up tho', ''Den Brysomme Mannen'' and ''Kongen av Bastøy''.

Ronic 07-18-2013 08:26 AM

netflix... you pay for that right? I'ma search that piratebay first lol already peeped that devils island trailer, def gonna look into that one

I'd recommend you some movies from my turf but yo we bring out one ok movie every decade lmao

Objective 07-18-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronic (Post 99260)
I'd recommend you some movies from my turf but yo we bring out one ok movie every decade lmao

Go for it. I'll definately check it out.

anime_boners 07-18-2013 09:18 AM

how many people saying hollywood > foreign cinema actually watch foreign movies?

Ronic 07-18-2013 09:20 AM

Animal Kingdom was aight, dude from a family of criminals, and a detective wants to help him.

Shine - pianist has a mental breakdown, eventually returns to pianoing. True story, dude lived not far from me

Chopper - based on autobiography of Chopper Reid. Pretty great

Gallipoli - classic war movie

Mad Max - Mel Gibson being a badass

Candy - my fav Heath Ledger movie ever

Crackerjack - comedy, you'll either hate or love our sense of humour lol

tbh most our good ones are about criminals @Objective

Split 07-18-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by anime_boners (Post 99276)
how many people saying hollywood > foreign cinema actually watch foreign movies?

I watch South American films as I can find them undubbed

They're ok

Valentin is great

Objective 07-18-2013 09:56 AM

I've seen Animal Kingdom, Chopper (I think I've seen it, pretty sure about it) and Mad Max. All of them great movies. Haven't seen the others. Will definately check out either Shine or Candy tonight. Crackerjack whenever I feel like watching some comedy, hah.

But yo, if you or anyone else ever get to see The Bothersome Man I wanna discuss it with you.

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Originally Posted by anime_boners (Post 99276)
how many people saying hollywood > foreign cinema actually watch foreign movies?

I do. I watch just as much US movies as any other place on earth. And I spend way too much time watching series/movies.


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