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namix 07-10-2013 10:08 PM

Love the Bynum pickup by Cleveland
 
$6 mil guaranteed -- shit, we were $6 million below the salary floor anyway...

literally free money type gamble -- pay-per-performance for the "potential" of a 2011-2012 Bynum coming back.

The hardest roles to fill are PG and center... If healthy, and it IS a BIG "if", the cavs now:
1. have a top 3 PG in Irving
2. have a (potentially) dominating center in Bynum
3. have a cast of dynamic, multi-position, young players
4. have one of the deepest benches of 'actual' talent (6 man runner-up for the PG spot, and likely our #1 pick this year coming off the bench, shit maybe Varjero coming off the bench too)
5. STILL have the financial flexibility, and now the talent, to make a compelling case for LBJ to come back to muh hood more permanently to give the Bath police officer that sits outside of his house 24-7 some company lol


2014, perfect Cavs world.... not saying it will happen, but just as naive to say it can't:
1. Top PG in irving
2. Top Center (shit bynum is better in the post and at free throws than dwight)
3. Top everything in lebron
4. 4-5 other first round picks under 28 yrs old


My hypothesis:
Lebron is a genius who understood that the only way he could get superstars to pair with him in Cleveland is by leaving it, so we sucked and built through the draft with lotto picks -- to return with some hardware and finally give himself a chance to win one here...

lol, what if?

Sharp 07-10-2013 10:12 PM

NOT OUR PROBLEM ANYMORE

SIXERS BOUT TO TANK HAAAAAAAAAAAAARD NEXT SEASON BABY

King Karaoke 07-10-2013 10:20 PM

Hi....

He signed?...
That's dope....
They have nothing to lose with this pick up...
They are not a championship time by any means but I can see them getting into the playoffs now....

Bye...

The youngest boss. 07-10-2013 10:21 PM

I put onnn

PancakeBrah 07-10-2013 10:29 PM

lol @ PG being the hardest position to fill when it's the deepest position in the league.

brb their are only 3-5 2-guards worth a shit in the league
brb strong dropoff at the 3 after lbj, durant, anthony, and george
brb no true young power forwards of note.

never go full retard.

Philly 07-10-2013 10:37 PM

Bynum's the biggest sack of shit in the league.
Make sure you shut all the bowling alleys down in Cleveland.

2014 top PG ... Kyrie Irving? No chance

namix 07-10-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 92943)
lol @ PG being the hardest position to fill when it's the deepest position in the league.

brb their are only 3-5 2-guards worth a shit in the league
brb strong dropoff at the 3 after lbj, durant, anthony, and george
brb no true young power forwards of note.

never go full retard.

PG and center are the hardest to fill in terms of being specialty positions, wasnt talking about league depth --- though i think the same drop off exists at the 1 as you cited at the 3.

Philly 07-10-2013 10:41 PM

Pancake the basketball aficionado back at it haha

Spoken 07-10-2013 10:42 PM

I disagree I have javal McGee as the biggest sack of shit SRS

But Bynum just need to buckle down and endure the learning process an not rush to be a superstar...

Lebrun really going back to the cavs??

King Karaoke 07-10-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 92943)
lol @ PG being the hardest position to fill when it's the deepest position in the league.

brb their are only 3-5 2-guards worth a shit in the league
brb strong dropoff at the 3 after lbj, durant, anthony, and george
brb no true young power forwards of note.

never go full retard.

Hi...

It is the deepest but not too many can take over a game or hand over a game like a steph curry or rondo...
finding a point guard who can do that is hard...
the good pgs these days are often better suited as sgs...
youre right abt the 3 position...
these days dudes can play from 3 to 4 to 5...
that's the euro shit...
No reason to argue or call a person a retard...
Its all a matter of opinion...
if your observation was that great, why aren't u a gm?...

Bye...

PancakeBrah 07-10-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karaoke (Post 92966)
Hi...

It is the deepest but not too many can take over a game or hand over a game like a steph curry or rondo...
finding a point guard who can do that is hard...
the good pgs these days are often better suited as sgs...
youre right abt the 3 position...
these days dudes can play from 3 to 4 to 5...
that's the euro shit...
No reason to argue or call a person a retard...
Its all a matter of opinion...
if your observation was that great, why aren't u a gm?...

Bye...

I do agree that a lot of PG's in the league are just 2's who figured out early on the best way to always have the ball is to bring it up. Still, league depth does play into what position is hardest to fill. You can couch the argument however you like, I suppose.

If you want to be technical, the hardest positions to fill probably just goes in reverse order from the 5 to 1. Finding size and skill is harder the more height is required. I just refuse to accept that point guard is the second hardest position to fill. It's also the least directly correlated to winning a championship. Which was the last team to win the championship with their PG being their best player? The Pistons? That was team D. The last Spurs title?

PancakeBrah 07-10-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly (Post 92961)
Pancake the basketball aficionado back at it haha

Your condescension is noted and ignored.

TYSON 07-10-2013 10:56 PM

Bynum will just get hurt mid-season so what does it matter?

Cashius 07-10-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine (Post 92924)
NOT OUR PROBLEM ANYMORE

SIXERS BOUT TO TANK HAAAAAAAAAAAAARD NEXT SEASON BABY

Have you seen video of Wiggins?

Oh my.

namix 07-10-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karaoke (Post 92966)
Hi...

It is the deepest but not too many can take over a game or hand over a game like a steph curry or rondo...
finding a point guard who can do that is hard...
the good pgs these days are often better suited as sgs...
youre right abt the 3 position...
these days dudes can play from 3 to 4 to 5...
that's the euro shit...
No reason to argue or call a person a retard...
Its all a matter of opinion...
if your observation was that great, why aren't u a gm?...

Bye...

word up


and damn ya @Cashius

the cavs are going to have the wrong 50%-66.6% of canadian players on their roster come 2014, depending on whenever Nash retires lol

wish this year was as clear as the wiggins sweepstakes will be.

Philly 07-10-2013 11:05 PM

Yea sixers could be respectable again in a couple years.
I'll prolly cream on my own face if they manage to get Wiggins

Sharp 07-10-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cashius (Post 92990)
Have you seen video of Wiggins?

Oh my.

thatll be all i'll be thinking about watching the sixers next season haha

PancakeBrah 07-10-2013 11:26 PM

Julius Randle, Parker, Harrison, and Smart too. Ridiculous draft.

Inno 07-10-2013 11:40 PM

none of this matters as the heat will continue to pile it on.

also..

Bynum is the jamarcus russle of basketball...nuff said

ill nik-A 07-11-2013 07:06 AM

Bynum will play a combined half a season in those two years

uh-oh 07-11-2013 07:21 AM

CAVS

Strikta 07-11-2013 09:48 AM

Wiz 7th seed, Cavs 8th seed.

Mark my words.

namix 07-11-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill nik-A (Post 93163)
Bynum will play a combined half a season in those two years

word up nik-a -- if he does combine for half of a season over two years though, it'll mean that most of those 41 games came this season (just enough to give us false hope and re-sign him with our team option in year 2 - under the premise of "attracting other FAs in 2014" lol)....

And though it speaks to the sad state of affairs for the team - Bynum and Varejo just might be able to combine for 60 or so games this year, which should give us enough ammo to make the playoffs in the weaaaaaak East, while also allowing the Cavs to give Zeller enough minutes to definitively conclude what most of already know, that he is NOT the long-term solution lol....

win-win situations, unfortunately, are often all too easy to come by for lose-lose-more franchises lol

namix 07-11-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strikta (Post 93195)
Wiz 7th seed, Cavs 8th seed.

Mark my words.

Not unlikely, Strikta - who would you have going as 6th in the East?

Shit, wiz & cavs might both be a spot higher from my perspective - who's your X-factor? Atlanta, Pistons, or somethin?

Inno 07-11-2013 11:56 AM

Same as last year except brooklyn goes further this year. ^^

...the Nagger 07-11-2013 12:08 PM

@namix I agree with everything


cept Bron is never comin back dude lol

namix 07-11-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 93238)
@namix I agree with everything


cept Bron is never comin back dude lol

lol, no doubt man... definitely a safe bet.


the less i think about it, the more i agree -- but there is definitely "a" chance, just because Lebron cares more about his perception up here (more than he should, admittedly). And while us crakrun peeps do separate ourselves from clevelanders, as LBJ goes out of his way to make clear, our only NBA alliance IS the cavs -- so as much as he tries to convince himself our affinity is separate, most Cavs fans in Akron are pissed (more than we should be, admittedly). He's winning over people who participate in his bike-a-thons or plan to play in St. V's "Lebron James Arena" thanks to his $1 mil contribution to the 'ol Alma mater -- buuuut, he definitely wants the rest of us back on his bandwaggon.

He doesn't 'care' about restoring his image in akron/cleveland as much as he cares about winning, though. And any Clevelander who thinks he'd return strictly for sentimental purposes is naive as hell (even though he IS sentimental as hell).

BUUUUT.... again, unlikely, buuuuut IF he believes the team gives him a chance to keep winning AND a chance to restore his rep up here -- it is for real a possibility.

In the end:
- He's most likely to stay with the Heat IF they win this year AND have a clear rebuilding/reloading plan..... The "big 3" run will not sustain much longer, but LBJ can pretty much win anywhere at this point with a couple solid dudes around him --- as long as Riley can balance "winning today" without over-investing and sacrificing their ability to "win tomorrow", then it is very unlikely he'd leave the heat.
- but if he does leave the Heat -- Cleveland is as likely a destination as Laker-land or most other destinations -- he's going to get to billion no matter the market he plays in, his other priority is being in the conversation for "greatest ever", and after that, his priority is his overall perception/legacy....

So if (1) the Heat can't set themselves up for the future, (2) he believes he can continue his pace for becoming a billionaire, (3) a team is a 'young talent on the rise' that can help him win-- the X factor will be his legacy...

Kyrie + James alone = a competitive destination if all three of those factors go in CLE's favor --- which again, I know (sadly), is still very unlikely -- but NOT impossible my friend!! :)

uh-oh 07-11-2013 04:26 PM

i like the cavs. you could say im a cavs fan. really im just a lebron fan, but i like to see the cavs do good.

that said even with bynum, and how theyve been drafting

i doubt they go .500

namix 07-11-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 93380)
i like the cavs. you could say im a cavs fan. really im just a lebron fan, but i like to see the cavs do good.

that said even with bynum, and how theyve been drafting

i doubt they go .500

no doubt uh-oh... wish you had love for the brownies too lol.


but hey, it probably won't take getting to .500 to get into the Eastern Conference playoffs anyway lol ;)


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