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...the Nagger 06-12-2013 07:48 AM

where do you place scottie pippen on your all time list?
 
you don't have to be specific, just like "top [something]"

Geno 06-12-2013 07:52 AM

Under mj

Wise Wiggles 06-12-2013 07:52 AM

Top Ten

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whys Ways (Post 74556)
Top Ten

you put him as, a top ten player, ever?

namix 06-12-2013 08:23 AM

It really is a great question. I was a die-hard cavs fan growing up in the times of an 'awesome team' who could never get by MJ's bulls.

during this times, pippen always seemed like just a tertiary player to MJ. I was surprised when he made it into the hall of fame --- but i guess i 'get it' too.

MJ is such an x-factor though --- Pippen may have not even been a household name at this point without MJ, who was constantly, and i mean CONSTANTLY doubled, AND skilled at making everyone around him better.... Pippen benefited immensely from this in terms of stats AND championships....


It's clear how MJ helped him BUT, it's worth considering how his presence hurt Pippen in terms of "what Pippen really contributed as an NBA player itself". I do not think Pippen would have been 'enough' to build a team around on his own -- but it is almost hard to say because of the MJ factor.

As such - all time list is kinda hard for me -- but i'd put him as "THE #1 of the #2 PLAYERS EVER"! He is probably the best of the second class/supporting cast players, again, supporting the best player ever (only maybe rivaled 10 or so years from now when LBJ hangs it up...)

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 08:25 AM

^so you place him where lol?

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 08:45 AM

lol what i got from that, and i agree (with wwhat i think namix was conveying)

hes prolly top 10 assist/supporting player
maybe top 50 all around
@namix

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 08:48 AM

ok

how about this

would you say chauncey billlups had a better career than pippen?

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 08:51 AM

hmmm... i unno... different time periods... diff teams... billups prolly was better all around...but with the team Pippen had, what he had to offer, made him more an asset imo.

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 08:57 AM

so you'd put pippen > billups?

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 09:01 AM

id put billups over pippen as an individual player
but pippen over billups as a team asset

God Of War 06-12-2013 11:12 AM

i dont think pippen is top 25 and he maybe would make my top 50

Swerve 06-12-2013 11:32 AM

Top 20, maybe top 25 of all time.

I'd argue top 10 in his era of bball easily. People seem to forget the monster he was in the 2 years without Jordan and how good his overall game was that he adapted to serving the team.

Uncle Drew 06-12-2013 11:34 AM

Top 25.

Note: In today's game he could shut down & highly contend w/ LeBron.

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 11:34 AM

I think its blashpemy to say chauncey is better than him lol

idk

he's def in my top 20

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 11:36 AM

i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon (Post 74648)
i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

word

I understand your point and I don't think you're wrong for it. I kind of agree.

Meth 06-12-2013 11:46 AM

Top 40

Chyeahhh!!! 06-12-2013 12:27 PM

he speaks....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 74623)
i dont think pippen is top 25 and he maybe would make my top 50

nigga we are talking about Scottie Pippen and Jordan...not Jay and Memphis Bleek

Chyeahhh!!! 06-12-2013 12:28 PM

he speaks....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon (Post 74648)
i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

check Pippens stats for when Jordan retired the first time. Son was no slouch by any means

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 12:31 PM

never said he was...but with Jordan he was that much better...i dont rmbr 4 certrain but they didnt make the championship w/ Jordan sittin out right?!?!!?

Jordan made him that much more effective...he was good player by all means...but more effective when complimented by a strong player...imo at least

...the Nagger 06-12-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon (Post 74669)
never said he was...but with Jordan he was that much better...i dont rmbr 4 certrain but they didnt make the championship w/ Jordan sittin out right?!?!!?

Jordan made him that much more effective...he was good player by all means...but more effective when complimented by a strong player...imo at least

this is exactly what my roommates says lol!!

this is the thing tho... name the starting lineup for the bulls squad when jordan left?

ppl act like jordan would have took that squad to the ship without pippen or something

then it leads to Pippen not leading the blazers to the ship

but they lost to one of the greatest teams ever

Rawn M.D. 06-12-2013 12:36 PM

yeah i feel u...n i aint goin name em LMFAO...truth is he was good by himself, jordan made him gr8...n thats putting it in the mmost basic of terms...cuz obv he was better then good.

oats 06-12-2013 06:51 PM

top 25 easily. dude was definitely not just an asset to MJ. one of the best on-ball defenders all time, great all-around offensive game.

Objective 06-12-2013 07:23 PM

Top childhood memory.

Them basketball cards with Scottie Pippen. I was the bawss in my hood for having many of them.

God Of War 06-12-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...the Munster (Post 74670)
this is exactly what my roommates says lol!!

this is the thing tho... name the starting lineup for the bulls squad when jordan left?

ppl act like jordan would have took that squad to the ship without pippen or something

then it leads to Pippen not leading the blazers to the ship

but they lost to one of the greatest teams ever

pippen didnt win the ring after jordan retired the first time when kukoc was a rookie, jordan had to return to win more

Allen Knight 06-12-2013 08:44 PM

top 50

PancakeBrah 06-12-2013 09:01 PM

Top 20.


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