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Witty 12-06-2013 08:59 AM

The next big war
 
I think the world is overdue for another one...who will be the enemy next time a war breaks out?

What will be the reason for it?

dull boy 12-06-2013 09:07 AM

What is big? Was our war with Iraq and Afghanistan big?

Witty 12-06-2013 09:09 AM

Yeah, based on the reaction it got and the worldwide coverage, the war in Iraq was THE war for a while, the one the world's eyes were on.

Badweather 12-06-2013 09:13 AM

i think the next war will be civil (like down in brazil or greece or some shit)

but ultimately i think a world war is in the oven.

Witty 12-06-2013 09:22 AM

Is China really a threat?

I hear a lot of people saying they are, but they never seem to actually do anything.

Zen 12-06-2013 09:26 AM

China has one of the biggest military's in the world and China and Japan have been arguing over who owns some island in the pacific. Seems like the most obvious spot for ww3 to start.

But with proxy wars being fought all over this kinda is ww3 already.

Badweather 12-06-2013 09:27 AM

china is a threat because of their numbers. and i believe they have a mandated military service. their weapons, i know nothing about. but i know a ground battle with them wouldn't be easy at all.


speaking of china. i actually just saw a documentary that showcased the Tibetan Fox in your sig. if you haven't seen it, it's on netflix; and it's a series called "wild china"


the tibetan fox is on the third episode

Witty 12-06-2013 09:31 AM

I am going to watch it ASAP.

Water 12-06-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badweather (Post 222505)
china is a threat because of their numbers. and i believe they have a mandated military service. their weapons, i know nothing about. but i know a ground battle with them wouldn't be easy at all.


speaking of china. i actually just saw a documentary that showcased the Tibetan Fox in your sig. if you haven't seen it, it's on netflix; and it's a series called "wild china"


the tibetan fox is on the third episode

I think China's spend is the second largest behind the one and only US. If you look at the military spending though we are like 500% larger, which you could assume means advanced warfare machinery. However, China has stolen a shit load of our technology and us their's, so I think the war would be tough.

In the end I'm sure there is something we have that no one would see coming in a world war, and my assumption is that would be where the curve starts to favor the US as whole, however the general public in both countries will prob be fucked.

Fart 12-06-2013 10:23 AM

THERES STILL A BIG WAR RIGHT NOW....?!?

dull boy 12-06-2013 10:46 AM

So media coverage defines legitimacy in this thread of what big is, war wise.

'World war' was a cute name. At the time, it helped describe the situation. Times have changed. We're living by rules made in the middle and latter parts of the previous century. Not living by them, but thinking in terms of how people viewed war and countries. There is a world economy now. Money is religion. World domination is attainable. I think eventually someone will have the balls to try and take it by force. America has been manipulating global control for a long time. They've done it under the radar, though, and under a guise created for it by a semi righteous history. Now things are more out in the open. There aren't many secrets. Gloves are being removed. Soon, I think, someone will push the button.

Sure hope the Saints win their division and get homefield advantage in the playoffs!

Zen 12-06-2013 10:55 AM

I like everything dull said until he started talking about the saints.

Witty 12-06-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dull boy (Post 222559)
So media coverage defines legitimacy in this thread of what big is, war wise.

'World war' was a cute name. At the time, it helped describe the situation. Times have changed. We're living by rules made in the middle and latter parts of the previous century. Not living by them, but thinking in terms of how people viewed war and countries. There is a world economy now. Money is religion. World domination is attainable. I think eventually someone will have the balls to try and take it by force. America has been manipulating global control for a long time. They've done it under the radar, though, and under a guise created for it by a semi righteous history. Now things are more out in the open. There aren't many secrets. Gloves are being removed. Soon, I think, someone will push the button.

Sure hope the Saints win their division and get homefield advantage in the playoffs!

To your first point...yeah it kinda does, you seem to think I am suggesting that brings legitimacy to the war, but that is you taking meaning from my words which was not there, I meant the next war that people will be talking about, that media will be focusing on, there was nothing political about what I said, and plainly the war in Iraq was the biggest of recent times...the one people actually gave a shit about, right or wrong..

Ryan 12 12-06-2013 11:01 AM

it wont be a war, fagg0t



iran will just drop a nuke on israel n all of america n thats it were all dying of radiation

Witty 12-06-2013 11:05 AM

Does Iran have the capability to reach America?

That would be pretty dumb though, because then they would be eradicated too.

uh-oh 12-06-2013 11:12 AM

YO

CHINA

like someone mentioned there have been disputes between china and japan over an island/islands and the waters around them. its japanese territory and china is like nah thats ours now.

they released things saying take caution if you fly in that airspace, threatened to shoot stuff down.

so what does the US do?

THEY FLY 2, B52 BOMBERS THROUGH IT.

china did nothing. its like the kid in class who you keep punching in the arm, and he's like punch me in the arm and i'm gonna stab you. so you punch him in the arm, and all he does is look straight ahead not acknowledging it

SHOOK

but recently china has put out memos stating there warships rival the US. they got a beasty carrier and are making dope battleships.

they sent a surveillance/spy ship into hawaiian waters not long ago.

and word there warships might rival ours

but ours outnumber theirs on a crazy scale like 50-1

BUT. they do have a very impressive submarine fleet, numbering around 80 subs at least 10 of which are nuclear

with these subs they can attack anywhere on the US, in theory at least. alot we would shoot down with our insane israeli type defense bubble but here is a map, and the chinese talking about how they would strike to inflict mass casualties

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-con...ted-states.jpg

Quote:

“Because the Midwest states of the U.S. are sparsely populated, in order to increase the lethality, [our] nuclear attacks should mainly target the key cities on the West Coast of the United States, such as Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego,” the Global Times said.
“The 12 JL-2 nuclear warheads carried by one single Type 094 SSBN can kill and wound 5 million to 12 million Americans,” the Global Times reported.
China also has developed land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles — notably the DF-31A, which has a range of 7,000 to 7,500 miles.
“If we launch our DF 31A ICBMs over the North Pole, we can easily destroy a whole list of metropolises on the East Coast and the New England region of the U.S., including Annapolis, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Portland, Baltimore and Norfolk, whose population accounts for about one-eighth of America’s total residents,” the Global Times said.
so they ain't dummies. they know how and where to strike.

but so do we, and our military is top tier.

think about it this way. japan is our ho's. we ho'd them niggas with MARINES and then later nukes. we couldve beat them without the nukes but we wouldve sustained way more losses and it wouldve took awhile because they were an HONORABLE FOE.

china was THERE ho's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cufG2Dlxvk

the japanese murked everything. women children, all that. marched through the streets banging wardrums and gloating to those captured/still alive

THUGGIN

its the same today. japan is basically america. thats why we fly planes through what china declares a no fly zone in support of japan

in syria china moved a warship into the gulf to "watch" the US and russia

they're getting balls bros

if there is a REAL war in the future its with china. espescially because of the economic position they are putting themselves in taking out loans like crazy that they won't be able to pay back

Ryan 12 12-06-2013 11:15 AM

uh-oh went in








holy fuck

uh-oh 12-06-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 222584)
Does Iran have the capability to reach America?

That would be pretty dumb though, because then they would be eradicated too.

iran can't hit america

they would need a sub or something they could move close enough to hit us

they could hit israel, and israel IS america basically. same way japan is america, only moreso, because they are jews and jews run the world, aka america.

so we would have to come to there defense

but iran isnt that dumb. at least not yet.

war could also pop off anytime between pakistan and india. both countries have nukes. both countries ready to use them

Witty 12-06-2013 11:22 AM

Uh oh killing it.

Since China's military capability is ever increasing do you think they might pose a real threat in maybe 10 or 20 years, or is America's capability increasing just as quickly so they will always be one step ahead?

dull boy 12-06-2013 11:30 AM

I wasn't implying anything.

uh-oh 12-06-2013 11:39 AM

we're progressing just as quickly/quicker

they are progressing through spy tactics and shit. like they've hacked our databases and stolen blueprints for stuff. its like the russians, in WW2 they got a german sub, and reverse engineered it, and started building there own subs. china did the same thing with there subs/warships to my knowledge.

but word they're basically building there stuff to rival america and the western world, while america and the western world keep building and innovating on there own.

i don't think they can catch us.

one guy with a fully auto machine gun can lay waste to 20 men for instance. but one man with a fully auto machine gun, might not be able to lay waste to 20 men with semi automatic rifles

basically the analogy i'm sleepily trying to put together, is china might not need technological superiority since they just have crazy numbers, but they need to be somewhat up to date to give it a shot

but i don't see them surpassing the US simply because we have more money to throw at top level science dudes to develop this stuff

but who knows yo

Zen 12-06-2013 11:45 AM

China was a much different country in the 40's when Japan conquered them and we defeated them because we had the ONLY nukes on the planet. A war with China now is impossible to predict as both countries depend on each other economically. So a war between them is very unlikely.

And Iran doesn't have nukes yet but they're trying.

Water 12-06-2013 11:52 AM

Dont for get about this cat. I'm sure he taking out at least 2bil himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duDfT7KxNxk

Destroyer 12-06-2013 11:53 AM

lol. China will be lucky to be able to breathe in 5 years

Plot 12-06-2013 11:58 AM

was reading an interesting thread till boring people came into it

dull boy 12-06-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 222604)
but i don't see them surpassing the US simply because we have more money to throw at top level science dudes to develop this stuff

You know this country is 17 trillion dollars in debt, right?

Also, I know it's uncool to use proper grammar, but their*, like 7 times.

Witty 12-06-2013 01:02 PM

Somebody needs to explain how the USA is in that kind of debt, or any country...who do they owe it to?

This is like when I turn off political debates because I don't understand about the economy...sorry for my ignorance.

uh-oh 12-06-2013 01:21 PM

dull boy, the last i heard we are 12 trillion dollars in debt

of that, we owe china 1.26 trillion.

china has a debt of its own, in 2010 it was at around 1.3 trillion us dollars. since then they have gone on a crazy loaning spree tho, local governments on up through every branch of there government is borrowing money at massive rates, impossible to pay back.

the banks in china keep lending tho, giving a false sense of them having money. they don't. there bubble is gonna explode and its gonna be terrible

the US operates in a state of constant debt. they MANAGE it. china's exploding tho

its hard to explain, but basically china is almost in as bad of a situation as the US, and they aren't doing anything to stop it, they are just continually digging a hole.

witty, governments borrow money from banks. we owe money to a bank in china. we don't owe money to the chinese government. we owe money to japan, and other countries as well. we owe money to our own bank also, the federal reserve.

the federal reserve is a private bank. the united states government has no control over it.

every country pretty much has private banks that print there money.

we are all slaves to the banks. governments don't make money, banks do. the banks give the governments money, governments are supposed to pay them back. when they don't they lose credit. like humans. if you don't pay your bills you lose your credit rating, and then your money isnt worth shit.


thats basically what its all about in the stupidest terms

anyone with google can see china is in trouble financially. they take out these huge loans and invest in real estate. normal chinese people, are taking out loans and buying homes and other shit in the US. chinese companies are taking out loans and buying US companies, they are also building cities with no one in them.

they are getting the money, and spending it, which makes them seem like they are in a good spot

but what people fail to realize is what they are spending it on isnt returning half of what they borrowed

its too hard to explain with my uneducated mind, but everything i read/watch is saying china isnt gonna be too good once their banks stop giving loans.

just look into how banks control the flow of money basically. they give false senses of prosperity by giving out loans they know people can't pay back, then they STOP. and everything explodes

dull boy 12-06-2013 01:25 PM

Witty, you should really read up on the evolution of the banking system. Econmics are crucial to understanding everything that's happened in the last 100 years.

Masaii 12-06-2013 05:49 PM

Wherever the heads of the world banks have a financial interest in. Its about $ now not morals. Lol you think the UN would give two shits about the state that DR Congo (using it as an example) is in currently if they didn't have those resources? Nup.

Ghost1 12-06-2013 06:05 PM

Its astounding to me that uh oh can come off so knowledgable about politics ........i mean all that shit he said couoda been bullshit but it sounded legit.....an my dude sands cars for a living. Man.....go be smart somewhere an get paid....smh.

uh-oh 12-06-2013 07:20 PM

my knowledge goes toward things that don't matter, like politics and science

the rest of my brain is occupied by thc, nicotine, video games, music, and porn

i just preorderd the new walking dead game, i got soda, cigs, weed and beer. i made a bunch of tuna fish yesterday and got chips and snickers on deck

i don't have to leave my house until monday morning

LOVING IT

Geno 12-06-2013 08:33 PM

My president is black


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