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KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 01:48 AM

Is consciousness physical?
 
Any thoughts.. ?
Saw this BBC Documentary on it I found it fascinating but kind of dissapointed towards tuhae end..

I refuse to believe awareness is a physical part of life idgaf

Objective 11-21-2013 06:28 AM

Is it on youtube? I got some thoughts, but I think I'd have more to add if I saw the documentary first.

KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 12:04 PM

Yeah look it up bbc documentary consciousness

Inno 11-21-2013 12:51 PM

Yes.

Tge act of being aware is physical.

veritas 11-21-2013 01:26 PM

where does the electricity come from?

Zen 11-21-2013 01:37 PM

Senses interpret physical stimuli for consciousness, but consciousness itself is not physical.

...the Nagger 11-21-2013 01:46 PM

consciousness

I would guess that yes it is physical.

Aren't dreams physical?

being conscious is something that your mind is physically doing tho...

KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 02:20 PM

So if I slice my brain in half.
Put one half into one skeleton, and another half in another skeleton. who am I?
If consciousness is physical then that means i'm technically 2 people at the same time.

Consciousness cannot be physical.

Lucos 11-21-2013 02:30 PM

If you slice ur brain in half you have zero physical consciousness.

Anyone here done dmt?

KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 02:37 PM

You know you can live with one half of a brain right.

Lucos 11-21-2013 04:55 PM

Being alive and being conscious arent the same thing

Zen 11-21-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucos (Post 212569)
If you slice ur brain in half you have zero physical consciousness.

Anyone here done dmt?

Yes.

namix 11-21-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212554)
So if I slice my brain in half.
Put one half into one skeleton, and another half in another skeleton. who am I?
If consciousness is physical then that means i'm technically 2 people at the same time.

Consciousness cannot be physical.

split ya brains any which way and your tomorrow's still the same part of today.

from the beginning to the end, your relationship with 'the whole' has been 1:N

and while that fact remains... so does the question, are you conscious of it?

Masaii 11-21-2013 05:53 PM

Consciousness is not physical, it ceases to exist when you are dead, it is more. I want to say it is your soul but I dont know how to properly convey my thoughts so ill just leave it at that. Hard question to answer properly.

Ryan 12 11-21-2013 06:46 PM

lma000 @ kenny dropping knowledge



and u cant be serious with that splitting brain in 2 bs


wow so if u split ur brain into 500 parts ur 500 ppl roflzzzz

Frank 11-21-2013 06:56 PM

Gather round while I manifest a chi ball.

*Feel that energy* ¿



HAAAADUKEEEN!!!!???

KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan 12 (Post 212690)
lma000 @ kenny dropping knowledge



and u cant be serious with that splitting brain in 2 bs


wow so if u split ur brain into 500 parts ur 500 ppl roflzzzz

You dum fuck some infants have to remove half of a brain due to seizures and can still live as normal as a person with a full brain.

What i'm saying is that if consciousness was physical we would be conscious of both bodies ergo it cannot be physical. consciousness is something everyone has only for themselves and nobody else but.. what is it?

Split 11-21-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212712)
What i'm saying is that if consciousness was physical we would be conscious of both bodies ergo it cannot be physical. consciousness is something everyone has only for themselves and nobody else but.. what is it?

Wat


its a direct manifestation of your brain connected to your body

like

the control unit of the organism thats ur body


thats why if you rip out half ur brain, u can still be conscious... because "you" is the living, breathing bunch of body parts youre attached to

Ryan 12 11-21-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212712)
You dum fuck some infants have to remove half of a brain due to seizures and can still live as normal as a person with a full brain.

What i'm saying is that if consciousness was physical we would be conscious of both bodies ergo it cannot be physical. consciousness is something everyone has only for themselves and nobody else but.. what is it?

i got it



consciousness is when ur a fagg0t



nah but fareal u aint making any sense for shit


compose ur sentences ffs ur mind is just ur brain

KennyCerealBowl 11-21-2013 09:06 PM

MAYBE ITS CUZ YA TO RETARDED TO GET WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS.

Consciousness isn't just a sense of being awake. It's a sense of self awareness okay look

If consciousness was physical that would imply that we are nothing but neurons encoded into our brains. SO well if thats true if IF hypothetically speaking I was to have one half of brain in one body and another half in another body. Who would I be?

You can switch a brain but you cannot switch awareness so awareness cannot be part of our brain.

Mael 11-21-2013 09:42 PM

@KennyCerealBowl,

Check out these links -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_pr..._consciousness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_problem

To answer your question about the two brains problem; you'd be dead, most likely. What constitutes "you" is essentially that - the combination of an insurmountable number of microscopic and macroscopic components.

In other words, the self is a completed puzzle. Ergo, an incomplete puzzle cannot be the self.

You seem to be confused, isolating consciousness as distinct from the body. This is not the case. The body came first, not consciousness.

...the Nagger 11-22-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212826)
MAYBE ITS CUZ YA TO RETARDED TO GET WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS.

Consciousness isn't just a sense of being awake. It's a sense of self awareness okay look

If consciousness was physical that would imply that we are nothing but neurons encoded into our brains. SO well if thats true if IF hypothetically speaking I was to have one half of brain in one body and another half in another body. Who would I be?

You can switch a brain but you cannot switch awareness so awareness cannot be part of our brain.

there is no situation where someones brain was split in two and had both halves of their brains put into two bodies tho

so in my mind once you split a brain in half either only one will have consciousness or neither will, there isn't going to be two consciousnesses

that's why you sound retarded. you keep saying that as if it would be

Witty 11-22-2013 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 212391)
Any thoughts.. ?
Saw this BBC Documentary on it I found it fascinating but kind of dissapointed towards tuhae end..

I refuse to believe awareness is a physical part of life idgaf

Word, with all that research and experimentation you have done, you are definitely right.

Forget scientists and professionals, you definitely know best.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 11:59 AM

It's like nobody has the creativity anymore,l

witt did u even watch the documentary?

Witty 11-22-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 213175)
It's like nobody has the creativity anymore,l

witt did u even watch the documentary?

No.

And I don't plan to, I don't need to in order to know that your argument ITT makes no sense...I'm sure the documentary is legit and sound scientifically but what you said in this thread was not.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:06 PM

It doesn't really explain consciousness being physical well it kinda does in some test.

But it turns out that your subconscious mind makes your decision 6 seconds before you consciously make a decision.


Nd we think we are in control.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:09 PM

The only reason it doesn't make sense its because you guys trying to hard to jump on me lol buncha faggots. the same arguement I used was the same arguement used in the documentary.

How bout before ya try to blow my dick how bout ya sink it in and stop being so egostical god damn.

Witty 11-22-2013 12:13 PM

...

We are in control...it is YOUR subconscious making that decision, it comes from YOUR mind, based on knowledge and experiences that YOU have gathered, how are you not in control?

Subconsciousness is not another mind or another you...all of it is you, consciousness and subconsciousness is a by-product of having a brain, you seem to think that because these things happen automatically it must mean it is separate from the brain, but it is just another part of your brain...without the physical brain, consciousness or subconsciousness does not exist.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:21 PM

I never said it was another me neither was it implied in that post.

i just said before we consciously make a decision our brain makes it for us 6 seconds before. so that means before you consciously make the decision to say turn on the ac subconsciously it made that decision already 6 seconds before.

Witty 11-22-2013 12:28 PM

Yes but it is still your physical brain making that decision, how does that go any way in proving that consciousness isn't physical?

Consciousness is just a by-product of the brain, it is how the brain sends instructions and messages, once the brain is gone so is any consciousness it had been producing because it is no longer being powered by the mind.

KennyCerealBowl 11-22-2013 12:30 PM

What happens when u die witty

Witty 11-22-2013 12:32 PM

The same thing that happened before I was born...nothing.

...the Nagger 11-22-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyCerealBowl (Post 213190)
I never said it was another me neither was it implied in that post.

i just said before we consciously make a decision our brain makes it for us 6 seconds before. so that means before you consciously make the decision to say turn on the ac subconsciously it made that decision already 6 seconds before.

what witty is saying is that you keep saying subconscious as if someone is sending msgs to your brain or something

and what is that 6 second thing you talking about? tell that to floyd mayweather


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