who banned the goat?
 

Please unban him.

Veritas is one thing.... we all kno he will be back

But can we really risk losing the GOAT?

Wouldn't have banned that comical fuck, personally.

Maybe at one point in time tho. lol

Aero is banned? wtf

someone fucking up

Wasn't me. This topic seems redundant, though.

Bags you should participate in Write Week #3.

And if you don't, you should change your name. The novelty has worn off.

I am you and you are me. You know I'm right.

I was gonna change it but then neighbor wanted to play too :(

I KNOW U DID THIS PANCAKE

maake me Bags Payne

Also

I will play ur.poem gane

But i am buzzed and will write anything i want

Whoevers banning people n shit are scum.

I'm pretty sure Aero changed his own user title lol

I wonder, seeing as how I'm already probably stronger than Neighbor with natural weight training, how much stronger and swoll-er I'd be than him if I injected steroids into my body like a shallow female getting a tit job.

cake is drunk and ornery and taking shots at neighbor

this will be a good thread

I agree with the drunk part. I'm not particularly ornery.

i dunno cake the end of that last post was pretty ornery

also highly unlikely aero is actually banned or he'd be threadshitting to nobody on PR like he did the last time he got banned

I mean, injecting steroids is the male equivalent of getting a tit job.

Agree/disagree @Diode

Nah. Getting muscle implants or using synthol is more apt.

You still have to do a lot of work to make steroids effective. You have to do nothing but show up and get instant results with a tit job.

For a female I'd liken it more towards binging and purging or taking amphetamines to lose weight.

Fixed

well played.

You're probably correct.

I was aiming for the 'changing your genetics' angle, though.

Either way it's frauding.

Well sure.

Insomuch as ingesting any supplement is frauding.

I don't juice and agree it's a shortcut with potential long term issues even if done in a perfectly controlled manner.

One could say the same for all the amphetamines in most pre-workouts these days, though. Just because it's methylated doesn't make it a different compound once the body absorbs it (sup prohoromones!)

The only thing I take is a post work-out protein shake and a strong diet. That's just eating correctly; a simple correction of food intake.

Steroids are a completely different subject matter.

Even if you are following the most up to date science on lifting and eating, taking a multi, taking preworkout and cutting every angle, it's not the same. You can try to argue that supplementation is a form of "cheating", but it's not. You're simply maximizing what you're naturally given.

Once you inject a steroid ONCE, it's no longer a competition against yourself or your own limitations, genetically. You're giving up, and saying "I'm not good enough, no matter how hard I try" even though you haven't put forth the effort to maximize your own potential. Weightlifting is a process, a long one at that. It's a reality check. Anyone who opts for steroids is a fucking joke in my estimation.

Just to be devil's advocate here..

One could argue that juicing extends those limitations, allowing you to work that much harder, and that anything that allows you to reach your full potential is worth it.

Common pre-workouts include enough amphetamines to do just as much "cheating" of your natural ability to qualify against your moral outrage, to be perfectly honest. I have no cognitive dissonance in recognizing that the DMAA in my original Jack3d is giving me more endurance that I would have naturally.. hence why it is banned by any professional and most amateur sports organizations.

Fine, it extends those limitations.

How many juicers do you know used gear once they hit their genetic limitations, just to break through? It's beyond less than the majority.

Steroids are the 'Everyone Gets a Ribbon' for weightlifting.

I started off skinny fat as fuck, and worked naturally to get the decent to above average physique that I have now. Fuck a preworkout. Fuck a steroid. I've never done preworkout, tbh, but that was because I didn't think they were effective, not because of some moral code or anything.

But regardless, you're equivocating like a motherfucker. Those now banned pre-workouts aren't banned for the same reasons gear is, and you know that. Gear literally changes you on a genetic level. I can't reconcile that.

I look at weightlifting as the purest singular, isolated, test of myself that I do. It's all about me, what I can do and what I've improved on what I used to do. To take gear, in my opinion, is vanity. It's looking at my own progression and saying 'so and so looks more buff and pushes more weight than me' and then cheating to get to a level I could have earned.

cardio > weighlifting

you can outrun a zombie but you cant lift one.

Guys. Ive broken 200 in bench squat pendlay dead

I am going to be a monster soon....tho the military press is still a considerable.foe

If you cant squat like, 300, at least, you're a weiner butt.

bench is overrated... mostly because I'm bad at it...

have I ever told you my mile time?

Cake is right gear is bunk.

I think weight lifting for no reason is a very good use of your time on this planet..

LMAO LIKE LOLOMG WATCH MELIFTGUIZE

What's your bodyweight to overhead press ratio?

Don't get defeated by the overhead press. It's going to be your weakest lift, by default. What's your program, I forgot.

If you're separating Bench/Dead/Squat/OHP then separate bench and ohp as much as possible. Your soreness from bench can be a detriment to OHP.

If you're doing Starting Strength and focusing on the A workout, expect your overhead press to be weak. I'm sure on the weeks that you start with the B workout after rest your overhead press is better.

I got hung up on my OHP number for a while, but it will come. It's a fucking awesome lift though. Doing more than 1 plate on OHP for reps gets all the bitches sucking your dick.

I'm Wise. I'm sarcastic, live in Oregon, and am a faggot surfing Chive all day jerking off to Aesop instrumentals.

bags if it makes you feel any better i have a 320 bench (hoping for 325 finally next week!), 385 squat, 425 deadlift.. and am still stuck at trying to get 185 on a standing OHP.

now to be fair i dont cheat on form, my 1rms are after all my normal reps, and i had arthroscopic shoulder surgery only 3 years ago.. but this gives you an idea of what to expect vs your other oly lifts.

strangely enough my shoulders are my biggest muscle relative to typical measurements.

I actually heard Wise jerks off to fuq.com

But uh

I'm pancakes bro. I live in either Minnesota or Canada. I watch work out vids while fapping drunk to whatever emo-hipster trash I over heard being spoke about at the local yogurt shoppe..

he speaks....
 

They coming betta get running

WP by him then, haha.

I'm Wise's best friend, Emilio. I accompanied Wise on his recent trip to buy pot cookies dashed with MDA and heroin. We converted it into dabs. We're crazy, and don't care about nuffin. While we got fucking blasted off that, we ate four mushrooms each and ran a train on a 34 year old named Lisa. She had a fat cooter. Thing is, it was a pussy eating train. We all took turns eating that bitch out, we were in another planet zone. It was a train because we had like seven apparitions with us, one was Hellen Keller and one was Doris Burke. The rest were Larry King. That bitch came four times. She was hot; you mad we have quirky opinions about sex? Thought so. After we did that we pounded her out, double penetration watching the Seahawks listening to borGOre.

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I know you work out chest and yeah back all nice
But the twelve gauge will have yeah six pack on ice

oh boy i get to use this 2x in one day!

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i got you covered, bruh.

Awesome haha

Mohaung over today's pre-workout for quickest results of your heart literally exploding

I miss the old Ripped Fuel @Diode

@Diode @PancakeBrah

what kind of shit do u guys do for abs and how do u get that " i gotta take a shit" or "im hungry" feeling away when u doing abs?

i dont max out bench, squat, dead anymore tbh the last time i did was HS, i just rep weights now and i love working on biceps tho

ive only done that protein shit once, it tasted like ass so i was like nah and its garbo to me

roids, cheating substances are garbo to me
i dont do that postworkout nor preworkout shit

i just workout to take my anger out on good things

Dlb just hit a rail of some ground Mohaung root srs url b cut in no time

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