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Geno 09-14-2013 09:43 AM

NCG'S. Fact or Fiction: do paranormal activities truelly occur.
 
Have any of you ever experienced hauntings in the homes you grew up/lived in. I have. In hyattsville md (not far from where the actual events that the movie Exorcist was based on occured) I lived in a house from age 2-7. It was haunted by 4 ghost. One male, three females. The male.. which I had experienced visually was more like a residual haunt. The females were poultergeist types that would actually fuck with you and perform phyhsical as well as visual haunts on a more random and inteligent type of haunt.

My dad was born in philly, and then him and my gparents moved to hyattsville where they had my dads sisters. They all grew up there until my youngest aunt was 18. They spent a considerably long time in this house and everyone has insane stories. Stories of seeing things, hearing things, playing ouja by themselves aand receiving answers from the oracle. Even my mom, who I do not have a close relationship with because her and my dad split when I was 2 and he won sole custody of me, has insabe stories of this house.

Fucking nuts.
So what are some of yalls stories and experiences, or do you just not believe in this kind of thing and think its fucking retarded to even consider a truth?

Meth 09-14-2013 09:51 AM

It happens.

I have no interesting stories.
@Rawn M.D.

ill nik-A 09-14-2013 10:38 AM

I got some

Maybe later

PancakeBrah 09-14-2013 10:43 AM

They don't exist/happen. Although as a younger man I would've said the opposite and I've been in situations where my mind tricked me thoroughly into believe I was experiencing one.

Frank Metts 09-14-2013 10:45 AM

Nope but the place I work at was originally an orphanage that housed children whom lost their fathers in the civil war mainly the battle of Gettysburg .. back then an orphan was usually someone who lost their father as they thought the mother couldn't raise a child on their own most of the time

But people swear and have even moved offices and quit because certain buildings are haunted by men and children looking for each other

I live near the proclaimed ghost capital of the world around this time Gettysburg thrives on haunted tours and Shit but I've never seen a thing just have gotten that weird chill feeling many times

Zen 09-14-2013 10:47 AM

I think it's very possible. I have a story but don't feel like typing it all out because I'm lazy. But there's so many forms of light our eyes can't see. Who's to say they don't take up that ghosts don't take up one of those forms?

Baron Mynd 09-14-2013 11:14 AM

I know some pretty sane people who swear by them, i'm not a believer though...

Rawn M.D. 09-14-2013 11:27 AM

I already said I think this shit occurs

N I've had some freakish dht happen to me

uh-oh 09-14-2013 11:34 AM

i seen a black "shadow" of a man walk from my closet and sit in a chair in the corner of my room before.

my room was pitch black, whatever it was seemed darker. clicked on light, there was nothing there.

the room didnt get colder or any of that garbage

think i was just hallucinating yo


but when i was a kid i was convinced my house was haunted. before all that^

Zen 09-14-2013 12:12 PM

Btw @Genocide where's the love holmes? No welcome back?

namix 09-14-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 151261)
i seen a black "shadow" of a man walk from my closet and sit in a chair in the corner of my room before.

my room was pitch black, whatever it was seemed darker. clicked on light, there was nothing there.

the room didnt get colder or any of that garbage

think i was just hallucinating yo


but when i was a kid i was convinced my house was haunted. before all that^


people don't recognize how real THAT^ shit is... seek and ye shall find for real - if you arent willing to see, you wont

but word, it's easier to play the side of 'naw they don't exist'


did that 'shadow figure' move like really slow, like almost 'heavy' and lethargic? i know how it sounds - but i know 1 family member, 1 close friend, and 1 other dude that shared similar experiences at different times

often times seeing that shadow figure walk to places someone frequents a lot during a somewhat dark/down time in their life (not necessarily the person that sees it)


i havent seen shit but i believe 2 of the 3 people that shared a similar story bro.

uh-oh 09-14-2013 02:19 PM

it walked slowly, not super slow but slow. i dont know about heavily or any of that.

maybe it was just a parrallel universe WHO KNOWS

my dad is a hardcore believer tho. he used to live with his buddies in like this warehouse type building. he came home one day and the big german shepherd they had was clawing at the door from the inside, when my dad opened the door it barreled past him, jumped the fence and was OUT. they couldnt find him lol. that night he was in bed before falling asleep, and he seen the shadow of a dude at the foot of his bed, walk to the side of his bed and lean over him. he freaked out and jumped up, ran outside hopped on his harley in the rain and left. came back the next day for his shit and never went back

he told me that after i told him about my shadow dude

i think he was just fucked up probably. drunk, who knows what else it was the 70's lol

but he aint superstitious or anything like that but he swears by ghosts

i just dont believe in "ghosts"

i know weird shit can happen but i think its just the brain yo being a weirdo.

he won't accept the night terrors or whatever those are, like what ufo abductees and people have, the sleep paralysis and etc because he said he just laid down and wasnt asleep or woken up by it

but he talks in his sleep, and has a history of sleepwalking as well

so i think thats probably it

Witty 09-14-2013 02:23 PM

I think if it was real there would be a solid proven case, and there isn't even after all this time.

I do not believe, I have no reason to change my mind, I don't base my beliefs on hear say.

Show me factual evidence, nobody should believe anything until they are shown evidence.

Witty 09-14-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 151471)

i know weird shit can happen but i think its just the brain yo being a weirdo

Yup

namix 09-14-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 151471)
it walked slowly, not super slow but slow. i dont know about heavily or any of that.

maybe it was just a parrallel universe WHO KNOWS

my dad is a hardcore believer tho. he used to live with his buddies in like this warehouse type building. he came home one day and the big german shepherd they had was clawing at the door from the inside, when my dad opened the door it barreled past him, jumped the fence and was OUT. they couldnt find him lol. that night he was in bed before falling asleep, and he seen the shadow of a dude at the foot of his bed, walk to the side of his bed and lean over him. he freaked out and jumped up, ran outside hopped on his harley in the rain and left. came back the next day for his shit and never went back

he told me that after i told him about my shadow dude

i think he was just fucked up probably. drunk, who knows what else it was the 70's lol

but he aint superstitious or anything like that but he swears by ghosts

i just dont believe in "ghosts"

i know weird shit can happen but i think its just the brain yo being a weirdo.

he won't accept the night terrors or whatever those are, like what ufo abductees and people have, the sleep paralysis and etc because he said he just laid down and wasnt asleep or woken up by it

but he talks in his sleep, and has a history of sleepwalking as well

so i think thats probably it

no doubt man... the word i heard used to describe it was more like 'sluggishly' probably...

perception is reality in the end, i believe energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so i have no reason not to believe in entities which most do not perceive.

oats 09-14-2013 02:37 PM

I'm open to believe it exists, but I don't think shit like this is real. Me and my buddies used to go ghost hunting in high school (Hawaii can be boring) at all the places where there's some kind of local lore/people swear they've seen shit etc, and did all the hubris type shit that's supposed to anger the spirits, and never once was there a remotely mysterious happening of any sort.

Though namix brings up an interesting point about the conservation of energy. It's far-fetched, sure, but still works as a theory under a scientific framework. It would be cool to do an experiment with people on their deathbed, see what the final physiological and biochemical changes are as your body transitions from life to death. If there are changes, you'd be able to measure the thermodynamics of it. Or maybe I just woke up and I'm high.

Geno 09-14-2013 02:45 PM

The shit is real. Trust

TYSON 09-14-2013 02:52 PM

Its is very possible

Witty 09-14-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genocide (Post 151508)
The shit is real. Trust

That isn't enough though.

I don't believe any logical thinking person should believe anything until they see the evidence with their own eyes.

I can't and won't say it definitely isn't real...but until someone shows me some evidence it would be stupid of me to believe it.

Don't believe anything you haven't seen evidence of, that is how things like suicide bombings happening...people blindly believing what they are told.

uh-oh 09-14-2013 03:08 PM

THE THING THAT KILLS ME THO

is on ghost shows and shit they're using electronic equiment like thats gonna do anything

oh we use this for the geomagneticism or whatever the fuck shut up

you are in a man made structure. there are pipes and electricity wired throughout it, those all make those meters go nuts. using shitty night vision a dust particle goes by the lens. OH SHIT ITS A GHOST ORB. oh we have this audio recording SHUT UP. i could be in a completely soundproofed room, record NOTHINGNESS. not even me breathing or anything, and i could normalise (boost the audio) and it will sound INSANE

#electronicshowdotheywork

TYSON 09-14-2013 03:48 PM

U would believe if u had a ghost fondle your balls

uh-oh 09-14-2013 04:13 PM

u are correct there

King Karaoke 09-14-2013 04:44 PM

Hi...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill nik-A (Post 151192)
I got some

Maybe later

Bye...

Witty 09-14-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 151587)
U would believe if u had a ghost fondle your balls

Lmao

ill nik-A 09-14-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karaoke (Post 151633)
Hi...



Bye...

Hi bud, are we friends again?!

Badweather 09-14-2013 06:32 PM

i've had 2 experiences with entities i would totally say were demonic in nature.

TYSON 09-14-2013 07:01 PM

O I forgot u was raped by a ghost

Aesthetic 09-14-2013 09:51 PM

The trick is not believing in ghosts.

The trick is to not talk about ghosts.

The trick is to ignore ghosts.

The trick is to forget.

NYCSPITZ 09-14-2013 10:20 PM

Yeah I mean they're real. The sense of irrationality (o gee ghosts 4 sure r not real) in people's minds stem from the Hebraic and Greek dichotomy of the intellect which has infected Western Man's mind. Heavens and Earth (Hebraic), Mind and the senses(Greek Plato/Aristotle). Bullshit imo, everything exists as part of a unified whole. Can you see microwaves when you make mac and cheese? Anyways...

When I was younger I lived in an apartment on the upper west side of New York. I used to always see this solemn man in my apartment, and the first year or so he didn't speak to me. I thought my parents knew about him but just never talked about him. One day I got back from school and he was standing in front of the refrigerator as I went to get a granola bar. He was blocking my way so I decided to ask him his name, and he hoarsely whispered "Jonathan". I asked him if he wanted to eat with me and he smiled for the first time ever and nodded his head. However, when I brought the bars out he was gone. His neck was always blue, so I figured he had issues swallowing or something. Later I told my mother that Jonathan should take something to heal his neck and she just looked at me dumbfounded and started crying. She asked how I knew about Jonathan and after I told her that I've been seeing him for years, she told me that her brother had hung himself in the apartment more than 15 years ago, and his name was Jonathan. Now I guess I was just "hallucinating" and I had some real coincidental mindtricks being played on me but I really highly fucking doubt it tbh. There is one reality, there is no separation but there are varying degrees of sensitivity to paranormal activity mainly based on how young you are, followed by belief.

Witty 09-15-2013 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYCSPITZ (Post 151839)
Yeah I mean they're real. The sense of irrationality (o gee ghosts 4 sure r not real) in people's minds stem from the Hebraic and Greek dichotomy of the intellect which has infected Western Man's mind. Heavens and Earth (Hebraic), Mind and the senses(Greek Plato/Aristotle). Bullshit imo, everything exists as part of a unified whole. Can you see microwaves when you make mac and cheese? Anyways...

When I was younger I lived in an apartment on the upper west side of New York. I used to always see this solemn man in my apartment, and the first year or so he didn't speak to me. I thought my parents knew about him but just never talked about him. One day I got back from school and he was standing in front of the refrigerator as I went to get a granola bar. He was blocking my way so I decided to ask him his name, and he hoarsely whispered "Jonathan". I asked him if he wanted to eat with me and he smiled for the first time ever and nodded his head. However, when I brought the bars out he was gone. His neck was always blue, so I figured he had issues swallowing or something. Later I told my mother that Jonathan should take something to heal his neck and she just looked at me dumbfounded and started crying. She asked how I knew about Jonathan and after I told her that I've been seeing him for years, she told me that her brother had hung himself in the apartment more than 15 years ago, and his name was Jonathan. Now I guess I was just "hallucinating" and I had some real coincidental mindtricks being played on me but I really highly fucking doubt it tbh. There is one reality, there is no separation but there are varying degrees of sensitivity to paranormal activity mainly based on how young you are, followed by belief.

K.

Prove it.

namix 09-16-2013 09:41 AM

@oats - totally liked where you were going whether you just woke up/were high or not lol... they have done some measurement things re: seeing the aura leave a body right as it passes i believe

the only thing others are alluding to that i do not think is a great argument is "i have to see it to believe it" - i think chyeah brought up a good point, or alluded to what i believe at least - in that "our eyes" are more limited than existence as a whole is....

Witty 09-16-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namix (Post 153015)
@oats - totally liked where you were going whether you just woke up/were high or not lol... they have done some measurement things re: seeing the aura leave a body right as it passes i believe

the only thing others are alluding to that i do not think is a great argument is "i have to see it to believe it" - i think chyeah brought up a good point, or alluded to what i believe at least - in that "our eyes" are more limited than existence as a whole is....

Why would you believe something you haven't seen or witnessed with your own eyes?

I agree with keeping an open mind, but if you have not witnessed something I don't see how you can logically say you believe in it.

Don't blindly believe in anything just cuz you like the idea, get some proof first.

namix 09-17-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 153185)
Why would you believe something you haven't seen or witnessed with your own eyes?

I agree with keeping an open mind, but if you have not witnessed something I don't see how you can logically say you believe in it.

Don't blindly believe in anything just cuz you like the idea, get some proof first.

i'm not blindly believing brotha - to me it's more about not blindly disbelieving.

We know our eyes are limited in a number of ways -- even as simple as needing telescopes to see certain stars and microscopes to see certain cells.

We use technology to overcome our physical limitations - but even the technology we advance is based originally on the limitations we perceive (e.g. what can we do to see a little further out or a little closer up).

At the same point though, definitely not on a wall here trying to say everyone should believe in ghosts --- i'm just saying that i wouldn't rely on 'my' (or our) limited senses to arrive at a conclusion.

But i think that is where the a big, and fair, difference can be between people on this topic (and perhaps you and i), the overall argument perhaps could be boiled down to:

"if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"...

without ears to hear it - does it matter? without eyes to see it, does it even exist?

sincerely not trying to speak in riddles here, it's just what I really believe regarding this type of stuff -- even outside of my own beliefs whether ghosts exist or not -- some people believe until proven otherwise, some people believe until they experience themselves, some people believe and disbelieve based on others experiences

at the end of the day, i believe eyes do just as much to deceive as they do to validate.

you know what i mean?

Destroyer 09-17-2013 10:48 AM

I want to believe
but, I've always considered myself pretty open to things and I have never had any kind of supernatural experience, not even close.
I have scared the shit out of myself with my own mind though, plenty of times, but that's all that it was and I think that's all it ever is.

TYSON 09-17-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namix (Post 153993)
i'm not blindly believing brotha - to me it's more about not blindly disbelieving.

We know our eyes are limited in a number of ways -- even as simple as needing telescopes to see certain stars and microscopes to see certain cells.

We use technology to overcome our physical limitations - but even the technology we advance is based originally on the limitations we perceive (e.g. what can we do to see a little further out or a little closer up).

At the same point though, definitely not on a wall here trying to say everyone should believe in ghosts --- i'm just saying that i wouldn't rely on 'my' (or our) limited senses to arrive at a conclusion.

But i think that is where the a big, and fair, difference can be between people on this topic (and perhaps you and i), the overall argument perhaps could be boiled down to:

"if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"...

without ears to hear it - does it matter? without eyes to see it, does it even exist?

sincerely not trying to speak in riddles here, it's just what I really believe regarding this type of stuff -- even outside of my own beliefs whether ghosts exist or not -- some people believe until proven otherwise, some people believe until they experience themselves, some people believe and disbelieve based on others experiences

at the end of the day, i believe eyes do just as much to deceive as they do to validate.

you know what i mean?

Exactly....I believe because I've had experiences. I believe from experiences. The night of my aunt funeral me and my mom went to her house to collect some memory's. While going in her room her bed was messy and all of a sudden the comforter flips over like someone getting from under them. Man we ran so fast out of the house lol. It was crazy my mom just started balling in the car. And then of course everybody knows about the other thing. I still try to be skeptic but I know its possible....


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