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White LGI 01-09-2021 11:14 AM

Can trump pardon all the people arrested in the capital Hill shit?
 
Can he pardon them?

Hush 01-09-2021 11:15 AM

You thinking like a bitch ass ***

Candy 01-09-2021 11:33 AM

niggah

Answer 01-09-2021 12:01 PM

Can he? Yes. Those people are pawns though, Trump isn’t gonna publicly put his neck out for them. Next question

fraze 01-09-2021 12:03 PM

He totally could but 100% will not. He would have to actually care about those people to do that.

Master Rock 01-09-2021 02:18 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if gets tossed in the can.

Eviction 01-09-2021 06:01 PM

apparently, he can pardon himself too.

White LGI 01-09-2021 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eviction (Post 797762)
apparently, he can pardon himself too.

Not for the state charges in New York

Trump going to jail

@Hush

Fuck you ***

fraze 01-09-2021 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eviction (Post 797762)
apparently, he can pardon himself too.

Self pardons have questionable legality. Trump would have to gamble on a favorable ruling when it gets to the Supreme Court. He's better off stepping down for a Pence pardon.

But politically its a lot harder for Pence to do that after Wednesday so Donnie boy might be fucked.

Eviction 01-09-2021 07:48 PM

trump and pence are beefing now.

UPN Zuch 01-09-2021 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer (Post 797750)
Can he? Yes. Those people are pawns though, Trump isn’t gonna publicly put his neck out for them. Next question

He actually cannot pardon any of them. They have to be convicted of a crime in order to be pardoned. They will be in the pretrial stages for months.

Answer 01-09-2021 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPN Zuch (Post 797772)
He actually cannot pardon any of them. They have to be convicted of a crime in order to be pardoned. They will be in the pretrial stages for months.

A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime.

Candy 01-10-2021 12:20 AM

butt butta but bun

UPN Zuch 01-10-2021 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer (Post 797773)
A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime.

Buuutttt then couldn’t they re-draft the charges after he leaves office?

Candy 01-10-2021 01:39 AM

punchline

Candy 01-10-2021 01:59 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzSpo_8uCgA

Candy 01-10-2021 02:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuMFetOK74g

Candy 01-10-2021 02:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czzkqPjvS4

White LGI 01-10-2021 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPN Zuch (Post 797772)
He actually cannot pardon any of them. They have to be convicted of a crime in order to be pardoned. They will be in the pretrial stages for months.


This is completely false,
At federal level you can pardon before conviction

White LGI 01-10-2021 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPN Zuch (Post 797780)
Buuutttt then couldn’t they re-draft the charges after he leaves office?

No.

Geno 01-10-2021 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraze (Post 797770)
Self pardons have questionable legality. Trump would have to gamble on a favorable ruling when it gets to the Supreme Court. He's better off stepping down for a Pence pardon.

But politically its a lot harder for Pence to do that after Wednesday so Donnie boy might be fucked.


This

Ajax 01-13-2021 04:36 PM

Trump can pardon anyone for all actual or potential federal offenses, whether before or after they’re charged. It’s what happened with Nixon.

State charges are a different matter..... the real question is whether DC offenses are federal or state.. IMO, that issue will probably go to the Supreme Court next year.

UPN Zuch 01-13-2021 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 798158)
Trump can pardon anyone for all actual or potential federal offenses, whether before or after they’re charged. It’s what happened with Nixon.

State charges are a different matter..... the real question is whether DC offenses are federal or state.. IMO, that issue will probably go to the Supreme Court next year.

Isn’t DC always federal?

Ajax 01-13-2021 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UPN Zuch (Post 798160)
Isn’t DC always federal?

It’s a hybrid. Among other things, it has a mayor and a city council, but is also considered a federal district. So, it’s not clear what local laws (which everywhere else would be state laws) would be treated like for constitutional pardon power purposes.

There are all kinds of weird constitutional issues about DC. It’s why the Heller case (the most important case about the 2nd amendment) was brought there.


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