bernie sanders campaign gets 1 million volunteers to sign on in 1 week
 

340k of them were not involved in the 2016 campaign

also raised 6 million dollars on day 1, $27 avg per person

the people vs. trump

democratic socialism vs. croney capitalism

who you got winning the democratic primary and

give a percentage for how likely you think trump is to win again

Its hard to beat an incumbent, people get complacent and just like fuck it he didn't do too bad. But a lot of the people in the middle who voted Trump only over Hillary are seeing that he isn't the ideal choice. I'd say he lost a lot of those votes for the upcoming election. I can't really see him gaining many voters in that same time span.

Bernie/AOC (who would never win the big one) is our only hope, and we ARE COMING. hide ur swamps faggots

I think bernie/tulsi is legit

only thing that can fuck it up is biden/beto or hillarys wretched ass popping back in

Bernie/AOC sounds awful

They’re as likely to make a socialist police state as trump is to make a fascist union

I’ll take the one where we have a chance vs the state

the guy who called for demilitarizing police is going to create a police state? knuck i know you know better

who you got tho?

How does he accomplish that without a police state?

you think his plan is to use an increase in police force to force the police to use less force?

I don’t think either him or trump will do any actual long term damage, and if they do my chances are better with trump.

How do you demilitarize a police force before demilitarizing the people?

You don’t dont bother responding so let’s move on to

How do you demilitarize the people?

I got no one atm though bunch of scrubs. Waiting for some all stars to show up. Might be convinced to back Rand Paul

Hillary needs to give up, it's never going to happen and it fucks everyone else in the process. That's all that will be said by me pertaining to that swamp monster.

Be careful with Tulsi, she is close to becoming another corporate shill. Look into some of her votes and stances. AOC is my pick as VP.

Booker is a joke, Biden is a saint but kinda missed the ball by not declaring before Bernie.

Biden/Beto would be a fine alternative but I've had 3rd degree berns since 2015

i'm confused. you don't think there's a way to legislate the end of incentivizing local police forces with leftover military gear?

im not sure what this demilitarizing of the people talk is

rand paul aight tho

SOCIALISM IS A MORAL EVIL AND ECONOMIC FAILURE? (NOT CLICKBAIT!) (WITH PROOF!)

You’re saying you want police running around with beatin sticks and tasers instead of guns yeah?

Republicans will actually win, but, dems gonna steal the election like they did in Florida and a few other states i cant remember right now.

votes from illegals + fake absentee ballots = Dems winning 2020

honestly the republicans greatest hope for re-electing trump is if bernie gets the democratic nod.

that pedo biden has a much better shot. but honestly just judging it how i judged the 2016 election, i got trump at 99.9 percent against bernie and 93 percent against biden

he's been bodying this presidency. i don't think the fake media hysteria over non issues counterbalance the surprise of him being an effective president. so basically those that didn't vote against him ain't gonna be near enough vs those that didn't vote for him. if that makes sense

of course im judging it solely off those i interact with in ohio da land of da gods. aka a state that actually matters aka a state with both parties aka not a circle jerk of liberalism or conservatism respectively

Fuck it

ha i'm in michigan rn. ohio is our nemesis. thanks for the toledo strip btw ;)


i agree. Trump's done a surprisingly solid job, which America would know if 99% of the coverage of him wasn't done by salty ass Hillary supporters


Never forget, Chris Cuomo on live air:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zMwOQMNYM

no. we don't want them in inner city streets with tanks and sniper stands letting off rubber bullets tear gas and flash bangs directly at unarmed protesters. trapping people onto private property and snatching up RANDOM people because of a community vigil. i watched charlotte and baltimore for 5+ hours. the cops are the aggressors 9 times out of 10, the cops are always decked out in military gear and assault rifles. this is what demilitarization intends to do away with.

you've clearly been hanging around too many rich white girls with powerful daddys

you dont know republicans do just as much rigging? mark harris literally crying on camera this week? brian kemp? kris kobach?

"votes from illegals" is not real. fake absentee ballots happens on both sides. dont be naive, that is far from the actual widespread election fraud happening

In for uh oh to tell us how Trump has bodied his presidency

Not a Bernie guy

Lot about him makes me feel weird and I really consider myself overly left

At this point I'll take most of the democrats aside from Kamala Harris. I think of the current field, I like Klobuchar the most... Which... I wouldn't have expected... But here I am

damn if u think votes from illegals aint real then you retarded. i grew up around illegals, like, 90% of my neighbors were illegals. i know they voted.

i dont hang around any rich kids im in the woods rn with poor white miners.

u just privledged, u dont feel the real effects of illegals so u all lovey dovey. i want u to live where i live so you can get killed by an illegal. then you aint gonna pop shit

my boy in middle america talking about borders smh

https://i.imgur.com/SooJGkD.gif

from now on your name, Mike, your name is Karen. cuz you talk about shit you dont know with a passion. while lookin like a copycat (NPC + Chance the Rapper ass)

Alaska is pretty big eh. They say the midwest is gonna be like the south, climate wise. In 50 years or 2050 or whenever the climate eggheads decide it will be. I bet alaska is gonna be dope as shit then. Get a normal winter and some dope frigid beaches. Spring break where the sun stays out forever

Im bout to go buy 37 straws see if we cant hurry this along

immo i feel like you should know this

i live in that orange section, and, actually always have, my entire life lmao damn

but also ive been in oc sd la for 3 years now

find any stat to back it up and i'll show you at least two other examples of voter fraud that are more prevalent

We do when there is a riot. It’s literally less lethal ways of dealing with it. Ferguson wasn’t a peaceful protest it was a riot. The other two examples didn’t have tanks. I own a sniper rifle and 3 guns comparable to an AR15. You want us to be more armed than the police?

bro i know you saying that means you haven't watched nearly enough live footage of these events.

if you're trying to argue that police don't use excessive force during peaceful protests or vigils, you aren't going to get far with me. i've seen it time and time again

el cajon police shot unarmed civilians in the face with bean bags during a vigil. literally a vigil, not even a protest. police turned standing rock into a riot. a girl lost her arm. she wasn't armed, she wasn't aggressive. charlotte wasn't a riot until the police escalated, i watched it happen. someone got shot point blank in the face and died, and it immediately got swept under the rug. the police almost always decide when to turn things up, and it has nothing to do an increase in aggressive activity by the protesters 9 times out of 10. but no, police do not show up to 'riots' with tear gas. they show up to peaceful protests, they stand around for a bit, and then they launch rubber bullets & tear gas canisters directly at people who are unarmed and peaceful. all the time. are their exceptions? sure. but that is completely overstated while police aggression is virtually erased from any media coverage. and hopefully you're aware of black bloc protesting/paid provocateurs as well.

do i want us to be more armed than the police? this is an interesting question but my answer is that the police should not be militarized and i do not mind how many guns a sane, responsible adult has so indirectly, sure. worked for the bundy standoff, and the opposite has left many understandably concerned and angry protesters injured or dead.

of course the bleeding heart liberal points to agent provocateurs instead of owning up to antifa and the rest of the radical left protesters being emotional shitbrains that get themselves in trouble by skirting the line of "peaceful protest" and riot.

bean bags and teargas are for crowd control. you fucking retards dont seem to understand the limits to what is a protest and what is blocking intersections/walkways and inciting aggression

nah you just haven't seen it. nothing im referring to involves antifa, i'm talking strictly inner city police brutality. i didn't point to provocateurs, just hoping you understand the reality of them. "the limits to what is a protest" is a pretty ironic phrase coming from someone who's worried about having a chance against the state LOL come on knuck.

So now the entire left is responsible for antifa?

In that case yall need to do something about the neonazis.

I don't condone the actions of a bunch of misguided communists, just like you hopefully see the fault in the alt right movement. I don't know what ever happened to moderates

i mean except standing rock which you clearly didnt see enough of either if you think the national guard was conducting 'crowd control' in the middle of fucking nowhere with, again, unarmed protesters.

i said antifa and other radical leftist groups, not sure all the names for them since they're all irrelevant aside from antifa

you misunderstand my wanting you to think logically with my personal beliefs

i have no problem with resistance to the state, i have an issue with crybaby leftist puffing their chest and pulling their britches up and then whining about how it gave them a wedgie

you're trying to say strawmen like some lady that lost her arm and others getting bruises because they skirted the line means police should have less funding for proper tools of crowd control. that's fine if you want civilians to be more armed than the police and would prefer a country where we the people run the show and the police handle traffic violations and such.

BUT then you need to logically point to how that happens in a likely scenario

you need evidence to your opinion being fruitful to have one, your parents were lying to you when they said you were simply entitled to one

i don't think you're well enough equipped with knowledge on this topic to join in

you are not reading what I said correctly to come to the conclusion i'm blaming the left for antifa

or for that matter open minded enough in politics to take me saying a characteristic of one side of the far spectrum means i am even slightly leaning to the opposing far side.

this is where you're assuming, and wrong. but it is interesting that you assume 100% of situations where the cops become aggressive is because somebody without a badge skirted the line and NEVER because any individual cop decided to get this show on the road or got tired of being yelled at by concerned citizens or were just plain given orders to shut the event down by any means necessary or even just got overly emotional and reacted. what is the line? is it yelling too loudly? is it throwing a tear gas cannister back because the last one just blew up in your friends face? is it throwing a rock at someone in riot gear? is it having too many followers on your live stream? is it shutting down satellites in a concentrated area of protesters to prevent them from streaming anything? is it locking people in kennels and taking them to trial hours away to ensure a lack of support for the defendant? is it aggressively criminalizing journalists for filming the event? is it coordinating with other departments to bus in loads of out of state people to make the crowd seem more threatening? is it reaching through the neutral zone and snatching people up and dragging them away for no reason other than intimidation? the line has two sides my guy. dont forget that

You are just accusing me of what u are doing inherently with that last statement.

I'm trying to understand your stance.

What u said is that the left only focuses on the situations where their agenda can be pushed and ignore the clearly violent protests exhibited by groups such as antifa, correct?

The same can be said of the right. Charlottesville was done for the purpose of inciting aggression and almost nothing else.

I hate debating tbh I didn't read the whole thread, I just despise antifa and it's ridiculous that antifa is the ace in the hole you pull out to debate boof lol he's got it from here anyways

where did I say 100%

nothing is 100%

for the rest of your post, some of it sounds awfully cyeahhh of you lmao post links from reputable sources proving anyone ever shut down satellites or bussed in hundreds of dumby protesters on the states dime or don't ever use them as examples again

i said antifa AND THE OTHER RADICAL LEFT

so radical feminist etc

i'm seriously unsure where the rest of your post is trying to go. please read the rest of the thread because i think you just read one post and you're taking it the wrong way