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Finnydot 02-11-2019 02:31 PM

Have a chance to renegotiate my child support payments.
 
Don't want to be like "I'm so broke I can't afford toothpaste." And i don't want to say "that bitch don't deserve shit!" Either. But i want the person who reads it to understand how fucked I've been the last 4 years.

Legit question. How do I say these things in a way that makes it legit without the person reading it (who will be incredibly gender biased probably) thinking I'm trying to not pay anything.

A little bit about me if you didn't know....

I spent almost 2 years at waldo pizza making under 100 a check take home. My rent was being deposited straight from my job into a bank account for my roommate who is my landlord and was my co-worker. So everything was taken care of but it still sucked not having any pocket cash. During that span she got married and now has 2 disposable incomes in her house with her husband and her both working. Even then, I was still paying almost $500 a month.

Now they want me to pay for insurance, too. And per my current employer, that would be my whole check again.

Any advice appreciated.

Objective 02-11-2019 03:02 PM

"My financial situation hasn't gotten better and it's been tough to provide for both myself and the child outside the child support I'm already paying. I've looked over the number and tried to make it work but even then it's not enough to make things go round enough while the child support is as high as it is when it's compared alongside my wages, bills, car and other costs that has come up lately such as insurances I didn't have to pay back when the child support amount was set but that I now do."

Then just add your income, balance and transaction history for the past 4 years. It doesn't have to be in depth if you don't want to show your subscriptions to porn sites, it just has to show in/out every month, if they ask for more then I guess you're fucked since I assume you have subscriptions to these sites. But ye, having that stuff from your bank showing your balance each month, what goes to what and your reasoning on why the stuff you pay for child support should be lowered, not because you don't want the best for your child or its mother (important part to mention even if you give 0 fucks about whoever questionable girl let you hit it), but because it's not viable in this economy.

It should go through. Fuck the pride shit, you gotta be upfront about this stuff or they won't help you for shit. Best of luck with everything, financial shit sucks.

Aero 02-11-2019 03:12 PM

@Ghost1

Chill Phil 02-11-2019 03:16 PM

With anything that involves litigation, provide paperwork.

Attach copies of your bank statements along with your rental agreement. With a highlighter, highlight the amounts you pay and how.much you receive.

I'd write a note just stating the cold hard facts.


For the past X years it's been extremely difficult for me to provide for both my child and myself. Financially, it can be done, but at the cost of my quality of life. A reevaluation of how much I need to pay would not only help me personally, it will help me financially. As in, I'll be able to save money for inevitable car troubles, which would help me maintain employment, which of course gives.me the.means to make my child support payments in full and on time.


Something to that effect. It doesn't have to be bleeding heart shit ..just state facts letting them know you're a person and money doesn't just fall in your lap without working for it.

Destroyer 02-11-2019 03:30 PM

Aren’t child support payments to support the children?
I mean “that bitch doesn’t deserve shit.”
Don’t your kids though?

Aero 02-11-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 726254)
Aren’t child support payments to support the children?
I mean “that bitch doesn’t deserve shit.”
Don’t your kids though?

Talk to this nigga.

Objective 02-11-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 726254)
Aren’t child support payments to support the children?
I mean “that bitch doesn’t deserve shit.”
Don’t your kids though?

That's what they're supposed to be for. We don't know Finny's baby mama and his history with her. She could for all we know be using most of that on herself like new clothes, jewelry n shit for her instead of the kid. I'm not saying this is the case here but it could be.

Diode 02-11-2019 03:53 PM

GET A LAWYER DUMMY BOY

Diode 02-11-2019 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 726247)
"My financial situation hasn't gotten better and it's been tough to provide for both myself and the child outside the child support I'm already paying. I've looked over the number and tried to make it work but even then it's not enough to make things go round enough while the child support is as high as it is when it's compared alongside my wages, bills, car and other costs that has come up lately such as insurances I didn't have to pay back when the child support amount was set but that I now do."

Then just add your income, balance and transaction history for the past 4 years. It doesn't have to be in depth if you don't want to show your subscriptions to porn sites, it just has to show in/out every month, if they ask for more then I guess you're fucked since I assume you have subscriptions to these sites. But ye, having that stuff from your bank showing your balance each month, what goes to what and your reasoning on why the stuff you pay for child support should be lowered, not because you don't want the best for your child or its mother (important part to mention even if you give 0 fucks about whoever questionable girl let you hit it), but because it's not viable in this economy.

It should go through. Fuck the pride shit, you gotta be upfront about this stuff or they won't help you for shit. Best of luck with everything, financial shit sucks.

none of this matters unless a lawyer says it

Diode 02-11-2019 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 726257)
That's what they're supposed to be for. We don't know Finny's baby mama and his history with her. She could for all we know be using most of that on herself like new clothes, jewelry n shit for her instead of the kid. I'm not saying this is the case here but it could be.

entirely too much credence given to this idea when you know the subject at hand

Objective 02-11-2019 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 726260)
GET A LAWYER DUMMY BOY

Don't think that would be a smart move. People have a tendency to side with the girls even tho things seem to be on the verge of changing towards the better lately, still got an incredibly long way to go with cases such as these. It'd most likely be energy draining, costly and end up backfiring in one way or the other. I think the shit @Chill Phil said is right on the money tho.

If nothing goes through or the mother is doing shit to fuck his life up even more or does something proactive for something like this to not go through, then we're speaking about the possibilities of bringing in a lawyer. It's definitely a much bigger and not really a practical way of dealing with this tho.

You're probably right tho.

Ghost1 02-11-2019 03:59 PM

Well firstly u need to understand the renegotiation u have petitioned for is conditional to your finances based on the child support parameters.........and if I'm not mistaken you make more money now than when you initially set up your support agreement?

The calculators for your district are all available online

If u have less than 40% custody and you're not paying for his health insurance or extra curricular activities then u can expect an INCREASE

I was once a stupid fuckin finny w hopes of pleading the judges mercy on liue of personal poverty ignorant to the fact that the renegotiation had nothing to do with my ability to pay based on my finances....it is based on their guidelines....based on your finances....

Don't fuck urself any worse here

I am better look and far more well kept and spoken than you will ever be.....there is no pity awaiting u in the judges chambers

Ghost1 02-11-2019 04:00 PM

An I'm eligible to receive support and decline that right aero u chink fagot

Diode 02-11-2019 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 726263)
Don't think that would be a smart move.

----

You're probably right tho.

yeah.

bleak 02-11-2019 04:02 PM

This thread is backhandedly wholesome

Objective 02-11-2019 04:03 PM

Is it possible to speak with the mother about this? Is she rational enough for something like this or are you guys dealing with bad blood between each other, Finny? If she could be on your team for lowering it then it could perhaps go through with ease, might be embarrassing af to take that convo with her but if she's cool it would help you out a bunch.

Ghost1 02-11-2019 04:18 PM

Lol if she wanted it lower it would be lowered. STFU obv u have no experience with what ur speaking on.

Pharaohs Army 02-11-2019 04:21 PM

what chill phil said

Objective 02-11-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 726272)
Lol if she wanted it lower it would be lowered. STFU obv u have no experience with what ur speaking on.

Lmfao, this has nothing to do with that. Who in their right mind would say no to more money just like that and lower it for no reason? If she is a rational human being I know for a fact this can work between two people. A friend of a friend did exactly that with his ex, thing is they're both rational people tho so she understood his situation and went along with it. Fuck you too btw.

Diablo 02-11-2019 05:25 PM

lmao she’s a woman

of course she’s completely irrational

uh-oh 02-11-2019 06:01 PM

disposable income means its disposable. like not for necessities.

but yo, what they make has no bearing on you. i know next to nothing in this world except the horror stories from friends and my pops on how it all goes down. but im pretty sure its a, your capability of paying doesn't affect your obligation of paying thing. like even if you aren't capable you are still obligated too, if im saying that right?

but yea its america, you need a lawyer for any legal nonsense. as much as i'd love to see you pay less, i'd rather see you make more.

Finnydot 02-11-2019 06:18 PM

I was making substantially more when I was served originally. Over twice as much than current wages. Ave current wages aren't as bad as some other wages I've had during this time. I have no bank statements. Maybe could get some old check stubs.

Lawyers cost money. I would rather go that route for custody rather than CS payments. This specific letter states that any and all custody arrangments are not applicable here, and they only care about the money. So if i say I only get him so often so i should only pay this much, then I lose.

I have to convince them they need to help me.

Ghost1 02-11-2019 06:27 PM

Word it's only based on the support parameters and your income

If u make less now ull pay less

Anything and everything else is irrelevant

It's not even legal for them to deny you and you don't even need to say anything aside from the fact that your income has changed

But yeah man....ur gonna need to prove it lol

Paystubs, w2s, bank statements..... something

uh-oh 02-11-2019 06:28 PM

talk to a lawyer

they're JEWS finny

call around and let them know your situation and work on a payment plan. they'll take 20 bucks a week in alot of cases until something is paid off

LAWYER

Amen 02-12-2019 01:56 PM

Lol of the majority posting in here having no fucking children/baby moma's and thinking they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Finny, you're a fucking idiot.

You stated this new job you were making MORE money, no?

Child support works this way.

They take your income and her income and use a special formula to calculate what you are obligated to pay.

If you are making more, you will increase your current payments.

IN order to decrease the payments you will need to have had AT LEAST 20% change in income, so make 20% less then what you were making - typically loss of employment and
transitioning in to newer job kind of deal making less. Or put in for a Multiple accounts allowance - which you don't have another child you are paying for OR - contractually get her to agree to a set payment to which the judge as to find fair and approve.

I don't see either working in your favor as you stated you are making more money. You only have 1 child and your baby mom hates you so why the fuck would she do anything to try and help you out.

You legit just fucked yourself, good luck.

uh-oh 02-12-2019 02:04 PM

JEWS

Geno 02-12-2019 11:35 PM

You need to find a job making over 20 an hr or your never gonna feel like you have money. 500 a month is only 125 a week. Double that and feel my pain dude. Real shit. Get a better job and move forward. It aint easy finding a good job. Trust me i get that. But you need to take deliberate steps with intention towards developing a list of experiences on your resume other than making fucking pizza. Otherwise youll get to my age and still be wondering why the fuck no one wants to hire you. Go learn a trade man. Fucking pizza for fucks sake. Get real. Until you actually put forth some real effort then i aint trying to hear you crying man. For fucks sake. Get a construction job. Learn to operate equipment. Work towards an operator job. Land yourself a cushy job in a warehouse making over 20 an hr to run fork trucks. Easy peazy Luigi.

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:27 PM

my neighbor just pulled up, i only met him twice before. he tried to kill himself cuz he cant see his kids

then i read that like, a lot of niggas out here killing themselves successfully every year over not seeing their kids.


i got u B we gonna reform this i swear to god man. stick it out there. your kids know who you are.

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:29 PM

imagine being me, chillin wasted as fuck shitposting laughing at the responses while not replying

then some nigga bangs on your door 2 days after u run up on him cuz he walking through your acres with his two little girls. then he tells u

'she taking the kids away, i tried to kill myself'

u niggas cant ride the wave :]

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:30 PM

white boy white boy, 50 year old white boy
if this was 50 years ago, youda stuck me in a box :x

odds woulda been against me , so far against me

but these days

i sing indian songs and u come to my house when i never ever ever ever ever talked to u, and u tell me u tried to kill urself and called ur sis and the cops and the cops and the cops


and i say

fam


come over any time u feel like that. i love you. im serious.

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:30 PM

BOP

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:31 PM

boop.

Immolate 02-13-2019 09:31 PM

i looked my brother in the eyes i seen the pain in him

Immolate 02-13-2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 726279)
disposable income means its disposable. like not for necessities.

but yo, what they make has no bearing on you. i know next to nothing in this world except the horror stories from friends and my pops on how it all goes down. but im pretty sure its a, your capability of paying doesn't affect your obligation of paying thing. like even if you aren't capable you are still obligated too, if im saying that right?

but yea its america, you need a lawyer for any legal nonsense. as much as i'd love to see you pay less, i'd rather see you make more.

i love you uh oh. i have known u now for like 8 years. u never once strayed. never once

Immolate 02-13-2019 11:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BHpvzu1qYs

last night, this guy who tried to set me up with his ex gf who has herpes he gave him came into town. i started firing my lil pellet riffle, my aim was so off it was sad. but he ran away. really he should have ran up, i was so vulnerable. sike.


i dont know what im tryna say here

except

we're all out here yknow. im no better than u, and ur certainly no better than me. and im certainly no better than u.

we're all out here.

thank you guys for being my friends, cuz i was gonna go kick that guys teeth in, you can ask him he would say yea i think he was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BHpvzu1qYs

Immolate 02-13-2019 11:02 PM

thank you guys for being my friends

Immolate 02-13-2019 11:04 PM

where is the 'delete account' button? @Diode

Amen 02-14-2019 04:46 AM

So Immolate is Late Bloom aka 2crip.

Got it.

wasim 02-14-2019 02:52 PM

stay up finny


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