NC ideology check
 

ok i need to know everyone's stance on the issues. no trolling in this thread

for most of these you can just answer yes, no, or undecided

Name:
Do you believe in God:
Religion:
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:
Do you believe in Climate Change:
Should gays be allowed to marry:
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:
Should prostitution be legalized:
Are women equal to men:

Are you

creationist:
prolife:
prolife in cases of rape:
antivaxxer:
flat earther:
death penalty:
anti-immigration:
pro-guns:

Name: Qualm
Do you believe in God: undecided
Religion: Agnosticism
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: y
Do you believe in Climate Change: y
Should gays be allowed to marry: y
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: y
Should prostitution be legalized: y
Are women equal to men: y

Are you

creationist: n
prolife: n
prolife in cases of rape: n
antivaxxer: n
flat earther: n
death penalty: y
anti-immigration: n
pro-guns: don't care, so keep em

Lol @ Name: Qualm.

Let's be real, if you want others to be real.

Name: Scheinberg
Do you believe in God: y
Religion: agnostic
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: y
Do you believe in Climate Change: y
Should gays be allowed to marry: y
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: y
Should prostitution be legalized: y
Are women equal to men: y

Are you

creationist: kind of
prolife: yes
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: no
anti-immigration: no
pro-guns: yes
_______

Name: james halton IV
Do you believe in God: agnostic
Religion: no
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:yes
Do you believe in Climate Change:yes *
Should gays be allowed to marry:yes
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized:yes
Should prostitution be legalized: yes
Are women equal to men: no *

Are you

creationist: no
prolife: no
prolife in cases of rape: no
antivaxxer: no
flat earther: no
death penalty: yes
anti-immigration:no *
pro-guns:yes


*'s explained. I believe in climate change, i believe humans contribute to it, i dont believe we should change anything however. Women arent equal to men. You could rephase it to men arent equal to women and id still agree. We are different. Lastly im not anti immigration, im anti illegal immigration. Leaving out tjhe word illegal makes it a different question.

@Destroyer you would welcome your wife being killed by the state if she was falsely imprisoned?

Also curious about the no to prostitution

Bitch let me have my beliefs wtf

Explain the reasoning behind no prostitution or FIGHT ME

Chill Phil finally got something going...

JUST TRYIJF TO TALK ABOUR LIKE SERIOUS THINGS EXCHANGE IDEAS MAYBE YOUR REASONING WILL SWAY ME TONYOUR VIEWS MAN

CHILL PHILL WAS RIGHT

There are good arguments for the legalization and regulation of prostitution
It just doesn’t sit right with me, I dunno why

Name:
Genocide

Do you believe in God:
not God as we understand him through what the bible says. But i believe in a higher power/s. Or that is to say.. I believe entities greater than me/us do exist.

Religion: raised Catholic. Converted to a form of satanism. Now i dont practice any religion

Do you believe in Life on Other Planets:
yes. Absolutely. Life is a broad word. Inteligent life? Yes i believe there is.

Do you believe in Climate Change:
yes, ive been around for 36 years. 37 feb 16th. The climate has definitely changed in my time

Should gays be allowed to marry:
sure. Idc tbh
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: havnt put any thought into this subject. Undecided

Should prostitution be legalized:
idk. This is a can of worms subject and i rather not get into it here. So i will answer undecided.

Are women equal to men: in some ways -yes. In others -no. And that goes both ways. Vice-a-versa

Are you

creationist:
No

prolife:
No. I am prochoice. As i have demonstrated in the past.

prolife in cases of rape:
see above

antivaxxer: of course not. My kids have gotten vaccines

flat earther:undecided

death penalty:
Maybe. In some cases

anti-immigration: legally -no. Illegally -yes

pro-guns: sure

Name: mike
Do you believe in God: the god in us all
Religion: they have nice ideas sometimes
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: yea
Do you believe in Climate Change: yea
Should gays be allowed to marry: yea
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: yea
Should prostitution be legalized: yea
Are women equal to men: too vague

Are you

creationist: not sure
prolife: prochoice
prolife in cases of rape: wtf
antivaxxer: anti flu vax
flat earther: no
death penalty: in extreme cases only
anti-immigration: no
pro-guns: yea

Name: Noah
Do you believe in God: No
Religion: Jedi
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: Not Sure
Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes
Should gays be allowed to marry: Hell No
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: Yes
Should prostitution be legalized: No
Are women equal to men: Absolutely

creationist: No
prolife: No
prolife in cases of rape: No
antivaxxer: No
flat earther: No
death penalty: Yes
anti-immigration: No
pro-guns: No, but if I was black Yes

Darryl sounds so un Irish...

It's Irish as fuck, bro.

I’m agnostic, abortion is murder, climate change is real, all the others idgaf about answering.

If abortion is murder, god is the biggest child murderer to ever live, by far.

Name: TJ
Do you believe in God: More like a higher purpose/energy
Religion: No
Do you believe in Life on Other Planets: Mathematically probable so yes
Do you believe in Climate Change: Yes
Should gays be allowed to marry: Yes
Should consensual euthanasia be legalized: yes
Should prostitution be legalized: Yes
Are women equal to men: Yes

Are you

creationist: No
prolife: Women’s choice
prolife in cases of rape: Women’s choice
antivaxxer: No
flat earther: No
death penalty: Yes
anti-immigration: No
pro-guns: No

You should have been murdered

No u

what even is this

Why does abortion being murder have to be linked to religion?

This is the problem. Left vs right is such a clusterfuck of sheep mentality that everything HAS to be how your sides voted position thinks it is.

Because the idea of abortion being murder has its origins in religion
Not necessarily the religious texts, which funnily seem to support it, but most proponents of the “abortion is murder” mentality, are of the religious ilk
But you already know that and clearly just want to argue with someone so, what’s up Knuck?
You good?

Yeah man

But it’s bigger than that, your answer is the easy answer that deflects any serious thought

Abortion being murder is scientific

Not really. If you define life as viable outside of the body, which aborted fetuses certainly aren’t. Like they legit are clumps of cells at that point and speaking as someone who went through a miscarriage, it’s literally the same thing. And I don’t consider either the loss of a life. The loss of a potential life, sure, but not the loss of a life. So not death, and not murder.

I also experienced a miscarriage and feel the opposite of you. It’s what made me more prolife.

Guess some people value life more

personal opinions don't change the science on it. i don't see it as MURDER the same way i don't see manslaughter as murder, or defending your self as MURDER.

but its killing a life for sure. i mean but its all semantics and where people want to draw a line. im sure you'd think different if it was 8 months in the womb, even though it still doesn't "exist" yet

like i'd feel zero guilt having a chick take a plan b but as soon as there is a confirmed pregnancy i'd feel like we killed a life cuz the shit was seeded

the genetics mixed yadig

but word even though i feel like its killing a life i don't think it should be legislated one way or the other. i just think its weird how people pretend its something its not. a collection of cells, lol. im a collection of cells too. every living thing is a collection of cells lol

In this case, some people don’t understand when life begins

I mean, at the core, I don’t really give a shit
It’s not my decision to make for other people
Just like it’s not my decision to tell other people to procreate
I’d never advocate for someone to have an abortion over the alternatives but people deserve the right to decide what they believe about it and what works best for them. If you are truly pro life you’re not going to be for people bringing a bunch of unwanted children into the world that they then abuse and treat like shit.

look into the difference between a cell and an organism friend.

the moment there is a zygote it behaves as an organism, every single form of growth is initiated by the new unique cells created by the mixing of the sperm and the egg, from blocking other sperm from attaching, to creating its organs etc.

its not a collection of human cells. its a new human organism growing into a human.

a baby isn't a rocket scientist, and a zygote isn't a baby. but its an independent life form of its own. its more of a parasite than anything else. but its an independent life in terms of science doggie

agreed 100 percent

its not my decision to make for others. and im a hypocrite as well, because i think someone who kills an actual baby should be put in prison. so i place more value on a human life that exists outside of a woman much more. and on the same side of the coin if a man murders a pregnant woman i don't have a problem with him getting charged with 2 murders. but thats more because it wasn't his decision for that life to enter the world or not.

but word, we're all on the same page im sure, we just have different outlooks on the process

Apparently, because I also agree with everything you just typed

Great post

Life starts at conception.

Fact

naw. The only reason people feel pain is because of their brain, there are people with neurological malfunctions that cause them to not even feel pain, so you could shoot/stab them and they won’t even notice. That poses the question “is it still unethical to hurt them?” And I say ‘yes’ because there’s still the effect of the wound and the effect of possibly dying, and regardless of whether they feel pain, they may still want to have their life, they will still deal with all the physical ramifications of being hurt. Why do they want life? Because their brain tells them to. Why do they deal with those ramifications? Because their brain processes their existence and distresss associated with them.It’s a biological imperative that developed through thousands of years of evolution where people fear death and want life. Which makes sense, because any species that didn’t would’ve already died out.

But to ultimately understand that the only reason humans desire life/fear death is because neurologically they’re preconditioned to is the key. A baby that hasn’t formed a brain or who isn’t cognizant of their existence can’t desire life or fear death, they’re nothing but an inanimate object.

Saying life begins at conception is stupid af. Life only begins when a baby can neurologically process it, which means that a baby being forced into an impoverished home that can’t sustain a baby becomes unethical the moment it’s born. It’s essentially saying “we’re going to destroy this inanimate object” vs. “we’re going to force this cognizant human being to live their entire life in a home where they’re not wanted”. Option B is unequivocally the unethical one

But the more important issue brings us back to the trolley problem. The world is overpopulated, and we can disagree on the timespan but you’re ignorant if you don’t acknowledge that the expansion of humans threatens the entire human race, and anyone who condones families having 4+ children are choosing to kill the 5 over the 1.

Now sure, there are more elegant ways to implement birth control but nobody on the religious side of that fence are proposing those ideals