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Amen 09-21-2018 10:58 AM

Real Shit...
 
Do you believe in having a Soul?

And where do you think it's located in your body?

2 part question... Legit question and I'm curious...

@Ghost1 - I know you read a lot of Spiritual Books and Psych shit, has anything of this nature ever been discussed in one of your readings?

@veritas - same with you?

@uh-oh - you seem to have a interesting some what intelligent perspective on any type of conversation discussed here...

@Knucklehead - same as above...

and of course my main man, @Destroyer - I know you don't believe in GOD or Jesus or w/e but I'd like your thoughts as well, man...

Victor. 09-21-2018 11:04 AM

Lol

It’s not physical so I’m pretty sure it’s located everywhere and nowhere at the same time

Amen 09-21-2018 11:12 AM

I understand it's not physical but neither are thoughts.

And thoughts come from the brain. I mean I believe we have souls but I'm not exactly sure where it would come from or where it really stems from... Like do souls even exist?

Victor. 09-21-2018 11:25 AM

If our thoughts actually exist IN our brain is a interesting question

PancakeBrah 09-21-2018 11:44 AM

Legitimately destroyed @ where is it in your body.

Jesus. Thank you for this Amen.

Ghost1 09-21-2018 11:46 AM

the mind (the soul) is separate from the brain

we have neurological evidence confirming this.

there are certain areas of the physical brain that are activated thru chemical processes during certain types of emotion...anger, empathy, depression.......etc but there is not a part of the brain or specific location of these chemical processes that can be attributed to the self............ like.......there is no part of my physical brain that can be seen to transmit the thoughts that I have about amen being a real life fagot.

drs describe experiments when they have manipulated the brain to force a patient to move their arm or leg......the patients response? "I didn't do that" what is "I" what is the self? these experiments prove at the very least that our minds(soul) do not consider physical brain functions to define who we are.............this separates the brain from the soul

beyond that we would delve into longwinded philosophical debates as to collective unconscious and the nature of spirituality...which is fine but I don't feel like doing that

so....yes the brain and mind are separate and no there is not a physical location in the body of the mind.....the mind is a non physical entity that resides within each human individual.....it is supernatural

and I shall stop there prior to russling destroyers agnostic jimmies

Ghost1 09-21-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 702108)
Legitimately destroyed @ where is it in your body.

Jesus. Thank you for this Amen.

lol hes a real person. in life.

Amen 09-21-2018 11:47 AM

Where do you think, or do you know where the concept of the human soul originated from?

Ghost1 09-21-2018 11:49 AM

doesn't matter...some ancient philosopher determined the separation and gave it a name

we have science to prove its accuracy....the label is irrelevant to the definition

Amen 09-21-2018 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 702110)
the mind (the soul) is separate from the brain

we have neurological evidence confirming this.

there are certain areas of the physical brain that are activated thru chemical processes during certain types of emotion...anger, empathy, depression.......etc but there is not a part of the brain or specific location of these chemical processes that can be attributed to the self............ like.......there is no part of my physical brain that can be seen to transmit the thoughts that I have about amen being a real life fagot.

drs describe experiments when they have manipulated the brain to force a patient to move their arm or leg......the patients response? "I didn't do that" what is "I" what is the self? these experiments prove at the very least that our minds(soul) do not consider physical brain functions to define who we are.............this separates the brain from the soul

beyond that we would delve into longwinded philosophical debates as to collective unconscious and the nature of spirituality...which is fine but I don't feel like doing that

so....yes the brain and mind are separate and no there is not a physical location in the body of the mind.....the mind is a non physical entity that resides within each human individual.....it is supernatural

and I shall stop there prior to russling destroyers agnostic jimmies

LOL thoughts about me being a real life faggot.

Don't computers pick up on brain activities tho? Like certain shit can be detected? For an example when they do w/e brain scans to study people sleeping and the activity going on while they sleep?

cac lover 09-21-2018 11:53 AM

I am leaving.

I thought this was about gun bars

Ghost1 09-21-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 702115)
LOL thoughts about me being a real life faggot.

Don't computers pick up on brain activities tho? Like certain shit can be detected? For an example when they do w/e brain scans to study people sleeping and the activity going on while they sleep?

right....im saying I covered that....briefly...........but yes we have neurological evidence of brain activity that shows the chemical processes involved in physical functions and emotional states of being...........but there is not any type brain activity that has been identified that correlates to individual thoughts of identity...........we can see that portions of the brain are responsible for memory and speech and physical movement and maintaining our circulatory system etc but nothing indicates a functionality of the brain that is responsible for specific identity driven preferences............theres no portion or function of the brain that can explain why I like the NY Giants....yaknow

Amen 09-21-2018 12:01 PM

Gotcha.

So - my next question to you is, do you actually believe in having a soul? Or do you force yourself to believe in having one for religious or w/e reason?

Ghost1 09-21-2018 12:04 PM

I guess my question to u would be....did u read my posts at all?

Amen 09-21-2018 12:06 PM

Yes, I did.

I guess you kind of answered my question by not wanting to elaborate for Destroyers sake.

Ghost1 09-21-2018 12:13 PM

U are confusing the soul as being a religious concept because of religious claims to what becomes of the soul after physical death

I was kidding w Des... slightly...by labeling the mind supernatural

The fact remains that I don't need religion to prove the existence of the soul for me when science has done it

I don't force myself to believe anything....that's not belief that's willful ignorance

Science is not against Christianity .....as people have oddly decided in the last century.....we fucking invented science lol

Destroyer 09-21-2018 12:31 PM

I do not believe we have a soul

Destroyer 09-21-2018 12:32 PM

Some of us, maybe, but definitely not zelph or alvin karpis

Ghost1 09-21-2018 12:44 PM

If I can get u to entertain Christianity nfor only a moment.......

Just long enough to entertain the thought of zelph reaching heaven


Only to realize his lip is still cleft even in his soul.....loooooool

PancakeBrah 09-21-2018 12:46 PM

Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

Ghost1 09-21-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 702137)
Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

Lmfaoosjxnx

Amen 09-21-2018 12:52 PM

Your souls are going to hell, lol.

Destroyer 09-21-2018 01:05 PM

Conveniently for me, I don’t believe in hell either

Twodrop 09-21-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 702119)
theres no portion or function of the brain that can explain why I like the NY Giants....yaknow

Huh?

There is nothing supernatural about u liking the Giants, or ur mothers cooking, or ur step dad's taste in polo's.

That definitely can be traced back to some function or portion of the brain.

Inno 09-21-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 702137)
Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

Lmao plz don’t stop posting

Chyeahhh!!! 09-21-2018 04:57 PM

I believe the soul resides in your junk DNA

Ghost1 09-21-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodrop (Post 702222)
Huh?

There is nothing supernatural about u liking the Giants, or ur mothers cooking, or ur step dad's taste in polo's.

That definitely can be traced back to some function or portion of the brain.

The mind and brain are separate

Sensory functions can be attributed to biological chemistry in the brain but the reflection of these externalities may not.

Huh? STFU stupid fucking idiot

I'm not fucking offering my opinion u piece of shit I'm explaining a consensus determination differentiating the two established by the scientific community.

~RustyGunZ~ 09-21-2018 07:31 PM

I don’t think there’s enough evidence to support any claim as fact

I’d like to see memory testing in cloned animals (does a cloned dog know how to shake/play dead or remember an owner)

I’d assume the mind is just information in the brain. They aren’t the same but are dependent on each other.

Destroyer 09-21-2018 07:33 PM

The mind and soul aren’t interchangeable terms

Cred 09-21-2018 07:34 PM

On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

Witty 09-21-2018 07:36 PM

@Ghost 1 I agree...it's not really something that comes down to opinion....here's the real question....is the separation between brain and mind a phenomena of evolution or the supernatural?

I think we experience this because our brains are so much more advanced than any other living being on earth, like it's not even close....the human brain is the most advanced system known in the universe. Including the universe it's fucking self. The evidence of this is that we contemplate the universe. That's a crazy thing for us to be doing. Evidence suggests that the only way for our primate ancestors to not just stay alive, but thrive...was to be the smartest....we were never the strongest, or the biggest (still aren't, a lion gon' fuck us up...but we use our brains to trap that lion and make it our bitch) but we were the most intelligent...and it just kept growing. The reason we are top of the food chain is undoubtedly our brains. Out of that evolution came the mind...from which came the natural outcome of pushing the brain to it's limits...consciousness. I believe (and I guess you don't) that it could have happened to any moderately intelligent animal back in the day....it just so happened it was our ancestors.

Ghost1 09-21-2018 07:49 PM

I hate to raise semantics but.... We need to define supernatural to have this discussion.... supernatural: 1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe especially

Ok.....aside from that....I don't believe in macro evolution, the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin imho....micro evolution I'll accept because the evidence exists irrefutably

The study of evolutionary psychology pertaining to the mind is fascinating to me.... But it's more just interesting philosophical rhetoric at this stage

So I mean witty has done it....he has dragged it out of me.....lol yes...I think the mind is God ......and the Christian god AT THAT..... But I've been clear on that for years now

Now THAT I don't say factually....but it is what I believe

Ghost1 09-21-2018 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cred (Post 702306)
On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

Lmaoooooo reps when I'm at desktop

Witty 09-21-2018 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 702310)
I hate to raise semantics but.... We need to define supernatural to have this discussion.... supernatural: 1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe especially

Ok.....aside from that....I don't believe in macro evolution, the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin imho....micro evolution I'll accept because the evidence exists irrefutably

The study of evolutionary psychology pertaining to the mind is fascinating to me.... But it's more just interesting philosophical rhetoric at this stage

So I mean witty has done it....he has dragged it out of me.....lol yes...I think the mind is God ......and the Christian god AT THAT..... But I've been clear on that for years now

Now THAT I don't say factually....but it is what I believe

I didn't mean to drag anything out of you man lol I guess I've known your stance for a while now...and I respect it. I wanted to discuss it. I disagree that the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin....I think Darwin did not have all the answers, but asked all the correct questions, I disagree that the evidence for macro evolution exists any less than the evidence for micro evolution...it's all there man...but nonetheless, I am getting more drunk by the minute and I will cease my argument here because soon it will become incomprehensible.

I respect what you believe, and I see your reasons for believing it...I just disagree. I love you. Bitch.

Ghost1 09-21-2018 08:05 PM

I love u harder fagot

Destroyer 09-21-2018 08:06 PM

So, when you’re like two hours into a jerk session and you’ve arrived at the Asian midget amputee porn section, that’s god cranking one out while sweating profusely?

Cred 09-21-2018 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 702315)
So, when you’re like two hours into a jerk session and you’ve arrived at the Asian midget amputee porn section, that’s god cranking one out while sweating profusely?

Lol this is getting good

Ghost1 09-21-2018 08:10 PM

Lmaoooooo Satan has u if u have arrived at ANY nationality pertaining to amputee midget porn

Let alone asian

Unless u are researching bars to battle aero....then u are doing the Lord's work

Amen 09-21-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cred (Post 702306)
On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

Lol what?

veritas 09-21-2018 08:34 PM

So....who would like to engage with me in this discussion?


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