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Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:22 PM

Luciferian philosophy....
 
So this is something I been reading about and studying (kinda) since I got in to conspiracy theories b.c it's what most of these "elites" worship. And one should know and understand their enemy.

I'm in a dark humor group and the admin of it message me yesterday asking if I was Luciferian b.c I made a comment stating what someone else posted as that. He asked how long I've had this "calling for" and I told him I been looking in to it since my early 20s. He claims to be Luciferian and for those that don't know, it s not the same thing as Satanism. It's based more on knowledge, and how Lucifer was wrongly accused for wanting to help mankind evolve thru hardship and hard work instead of living in Eden as god Wanted...

So has anyone here ever been approached by someone claiming to be one? And for those believers out there in the Christian faith, I think Bags says he Religious, but I'm just curious as to others encounter with this... I don't think it's a calling just curiosity and it's something I'm cautious and weary about looking up

uh-oh 07-09-2018 08:31 PM

its just more jew malarkey

wake up

if you want to be religious and spit in the face of a christian/jew god embrace your peoples old theologies. whatever ethnic background you come from. just be a pagan and sacrifice animals for luck and shit like an adult

bleak 07-09-2018 08:37 PM

Or don't worship anything lol

Worship yourself. Pray to the pantry and the walls you call home.

Witty 07-09-2018 08:37 PM

It's nonsense.

Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 681743)
its just more jew malarkey

wake up

if you want to be religious and spit in the face of a christian/jew god embrace your peoples old theologies. whatever ethnic background you come from. just be a pagan and sacrifice animals for luck and shit like an adult

Lmao I'm not the sleeping type you must not be familiar with my other posts. Just because I find something interesting doesn't mean I follow it.

But let me ask you this Uhoh... Why were almost all the pioneers of science, math, philosophy etc part of secret societies?
Plato was
Socrates was
And many other. Manly P Hall was a 33rd degree Scottish rite Mason and he sounded the KKK. I suggest you wake up and learn what the enemy believes in. Just because we don't believe does not me it does not affect us.

uh-oh 07-09-2018 08:38 PM

you all sound like you're hiding something

just illuminati shills if you ask me

dig deeper elemental p

Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleak (Post 681744)
Or don't worship anything lol

Worship yourself. Pray to the pantry and the walls you call home.

Worshipping yourself is part of the Luciferian philosophy actually... Becoming Christed, as they call it. It's the same philosophy/religion that Sumarians worshipped, the Mesopotamian, the Egyptians, it was just under a different guise back then.

Destroyer 07-09-2018 08:42 PM

@veritas to smite this heathen

Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 681747)
you all sound like you're hiding something

just illuminati shills if you ask me

dig deeper elemental p

I have dug bout as deep as I can without becoming tainted in the process with the resources I have.

And yes, it is just "illuminati shills" but that does not mean it does not exist. Regardless of what we think or believe, this Is what the enemy believes and trust me... They are the enemy. They claim their duty is to cause negative polarity to teach mankind empathy... sounds like a cop out to be a piece of shit IMO

Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 681749)
@veritas to smite this heathen

Lol heathen. So one is a heathen for using their free will to find the truth? Don't be so vain.

uh-oh 07-09-2018 08:47 PM

nothing i said in here was with any note of sincerity but you are indeed serious in this futile pursuit. i shall entertain it.

who is "the enemy" you mention? specifically.

WRATH 07-09-2018 08:49 PM

Anything can be made to sound accurate and believable

Ghost1 07-09-2018 08:50 PM

If u believe in Satan u believe in God....an I got some bad news doggy

uh-oh 07-09-2018 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 681755)
If u believe in Satan u believe in God....an I got some bad news doggy

obviously satan was a real human who put the real human jesus christ through different trials duh. its in the history book titled the bible

Elemental P 07-09-2018 08:56 PM

At Uh Oh. The people in power are, I'm not going to name everyone b.c I can't, but people like the Roth child are, the Bush's, the higher up bankers etc. At Bags, to be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in it or not that is why I make these posts, that is why I read and try to learn about it.

I want to believe in God, but faith is a gift I yet to receive I guess... I never felt this "holy spirit" as others claim they have. I try to be open minded tho but right now I just go with my instinct. I was reared Catholic too but I never felt God's presence if you will, not yet anyway

Destroyer 07-09-2018 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 681751)
Lol heathen. So one is a heathen for using their free will to find the truth? Don't be so vain.

I’m just having fun bro
I don’t believe in the good or the bad magical fairies

Elemental P 07-09-2018 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 681758)
I’m just having fun bro
I don’t believe in the good or the bad magical fairies

My mistake, I'm defensive ATM b.c I don't want people thinking this is some shit I worship or believe. I just like to question and ask other people's opinions so my apologies

Ghost1 07-09-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 681756)
obviously satan was a real human who put the real human jesus christ through different trials duh. its in the history book titled the bible

Lol going to drive out to shitsville dirt Ohio in about two months once U've crippled urself by eating red meat 9x a day and kick ur stupid fucking head into orbit

Ghost1 07-09-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 681757)
At Uh Oh. The people in power are, I'm not going to name everyone b.c I can't, but people like the Roth child are, the Bush's, the higher up bankers etc. At Bags, to be honest, I'm not sure if I believe in it or not that is why I make these posts, that is why I read and try to learn about it.

I want to believe in God, but faith is a gift I yet to receive I guess... I never felt this "holy spirit" as others claim they have. I try to be open minded tho but right now I just go with my instinct. I was reared Catholic too but I never felt God's presence if you will, not yet anyway

My point is .........IF u believe in Satan....or Lucifer......it's a packaged deal

Ghost1 07-09-2018 09:14 PM

Im nearly positive Geno claims to be luciferian tho?

Elemental P 07-09-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 681767)
Im nearly positive Geno claims to be luciferian tho?

I remember u two discussing that he was a Satanist but that's different.
And you're right I agree, if you believe in God or the devil then by default the other is automatically included. It makes no sense to believe in one or not the other

Ghost1 07-09-2018 09:24 PM

God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

Elemental P 07-09-2018 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 681778)
God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

Now that's news to me and I'll need to read up on that before making any kind of conclusion. Can u give a quick summary to that tho?

Witty 07-09-2018 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 681778)
God can exist without Satan

Satan cannot exist without god

Read some Augustine if ur in a philosophical mood

Your first sentence is incorrect.

God can (and did) exist without Satan. According to the Bible. However without God there could be no Satan.

uh-oh 07-09-2018 09:45 PM

Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

Ghost1 07-09-2018 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 681785)
Your first sentence is incorrect.

God can (and did) exist without Satan. According to the Bible. However without God there could be no Satan.

My first sentence is fucking correct u drunk FAGOT read it AGAIN

Witty 07-09-2018 10:06 PM

My bad. I operate under the assumption that at least 33% of everything you say must be nonsense.

Twodrop 07-09-2018 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 681786)
Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

No.

The snake represents human choice, or free will.

or if ur a bible thumper, EVIL INCARNATE.

Ghost1 07-09-2018 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 681782)
Now that's news to me and I'll need to read up on that before making any kind of conclusion. Can u give a quick summary to that tho?

Basically....

Good is good

Bad is the absence of good

So bad cannot exist without good

But good can exist without bad because it is the foundation


Say for instance light

Light is light

Darkness is the absence of light


Darkness cannot exist with out light

Light can exist without darkness


Apply it to god

God was the first and only eternal being outside of space and time....he created everything....and in turn created Satan.....

God is god

Satan is the absence of god

Satan cannot exist without god

God can exist without Satan

Witty 07-09-2018 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 681786)
Is satan lucifer?

Who was the snake in the garden of eden?

Yes. And the snake was also Satan/Lucifer/Abbadon/Beelzebub/Apollyon/Belial.

Witty 07-09-2018 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodrop (Post 681789)
No.

The snake represents human choice, or free will.

or if ur a bible thumper, EVIL INCARNATE.

The snake is Satan.

Ghost1 07-09-2018 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 681788)
My bad. I operate under the assumption that at least 33% of everything you say must be nonsense.

Jeesh not sure if I'm offended or flattered lmao

Witty 07-09-2018 10:20 PM

The reason the snake must be Satan is simple logic. The snake is urging others to disobey God's command, this is a sin..at this point in time the world and it's inhabitants are without sin...thus this snake must dwell somewhere other than earth and be capable of willfully disobeying God. The snake must be Satan.

veritas 07-09-2018 10:20 PM

Luciferianism basic tenets:

Lucifer was trying to help humanity by having them eat of the tree...to illuminate them.

God did not want that and punished him.

Lucifer isGood. God is not.


If you believe this you are mad.

I will contend with any and all as to why this is a poor choice.

Twodrop 07-09-2018 10:26 PM

why would 'illuminating' humanity be a bad choice, and has this happened or not?

Chyeahhh!!! 07-09-2018 10:29 PM

El P youtube the Great Inception

dull boy 07-09-2018 11:03 PM

This thread again.

Elemental P 07-09-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!! (Post 681799)
El P youtube the Great Inception

Think I seen that one I'll double check

And as for if Lucifer and Satan are the same I think some say it's debateable...
Some think Satan was the agent for Lucifer... Or that Satan was the true bad guy but Lucifer caught the bad rap. There's all kinds of different versions I read about but they all resort back to one point and that's "Satan/Lucifer is actually a good guy/wants the best for Man)

Lucifer will ALWAYS hate man b.c we are made.in the image of God and he obviously hates god and his creations. Lucifers pride and ego is what got his ass kicked out for being a whiny bitch

Elemental P 07-09-2018 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 681790)
Basically....

Good is good

Bad is the absence of good

So bad cannot exist without good

But good can exist without bad because it is the foundation


Say for instance light

Light is light

Darkness is the absence of light


Darkness cannot exist with out light

Light can exist without darkness


Apply it to god

God was the first and only eternal being outside of space and time....he created everything....and in turn created Satan.....

God is god

Satan is the absence of god

Satan cannot exist without god

God can exist without Satan

Ok I see now. Since god is the creator god he can exist without Satan but Satan is not the creator god so therefore he can not exist unless god created him

Chyeahhh!!! 07-10-2018 12:05 AM

Someone touched on it

Zues Jupiter Thor Baal Satan all the same person

Apollyon abaddon not Satan tho, just high demon also is Apollo and

The lower case g gods did the many name game, ancient cultures described the same deities by different names after big g God fucked up the languages for the tower of babel incident.

Also, that flick immortals plays off the fallen angels if you've seen it. Greek mythology describes the same war in heaven the bible talks about. The twenty angels who fell on mt hermon, mated with the women and the mighty men of renown were born the giants. The 20 angels each had 10 angels under them. The 200. Mt Hermon interestingly enough is home to Hermon hotel, the highest United Nations base in the world at the summit. At the mountains base is the temple of pan this in the city of Golan heights, Syrian territory but mostly Israeli occupied.


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