This is America
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FESviczzpiY&t=1s

Sad shit.

For those with children, hug them, love them, appreciate them. With in a blink of an eye - they can be taken. I have a teenager and this shit right here is disturbing.

Sickening truly

And in a public business in fucking NYC. How many witnesses didn't do nothing but pull their phone out? God damn. That's some Kitty Genovese shit.

See why we need immigration.

All dem niggas brown

I mean yeah that’s fucked up, but no way that shit was random

Mistaken identity. Was random. KId looked like the kid they had a hit out for.

Apparently the kid they were looking for had filmed the sister to one of the gang members getting fucked and posted it on social media. This innocent kid looked like the kid in the video and they attacked him. Very sad.
@Innovator - all Dominican. Yet people hate mexicans lol... Mind blowing.

its still not random tho.....like they weren't just out wildin without a purpose is the point

unjustifiable regardless

True, in that sense - yea it wasn't random. Just random for the victim, I guess.

The fact that he ran to the hospital while his jugular was leaking trying to get help and screaming for help - while 2 nurses walked by in their scrubs still is sickening.

All kinds of videos surfacing on it. A video shows the entire thing from when they walked up to him, punched him - knocking him down to the ground and dragging him out so all could run up and stab and chop him with a machete.

agree its fucked

It’s def fucked
Nobody helps
This is America
Don’t catch you slippin nah

old.

@dead man on my life I just started reading the 2nd chapter in this psych textbook for my class this week and it opens up w Kitty Genovese

synchronicity on tap

Truly sad and terrible. And that’s not America that’s NYC. All those gang members will be caught and brought to justice smh if they really killed the wrong guy.

Not if, they did kill the wrong KID.

Are you reading the social animal?

Where it uses kitty as the anecdote for the social bystander effect?

Is that shit real?
I don’t believe in it
Doesn’t the social bystander effect directly contradict the idea of the Good Samaritan @veritas?

I have read the social animal its one of my favorites.

the text book Im currently reading though is Understanding Psychology 13e

but word I mean they've done several social experiments that ultimately determined that the larger the crowd of bystanders the lower the likelihood of someone intervening because they assume someone else will...........if its just one person or two its more likely they will help because they feel like no one else can

Great question Jude.

The Good Samaritan needs two checkboxes to overwhelm the social bystander effect.

1. Not a large number of people (I.e. just one Good Samaritan. I.e. this man needs my help there is no one else who can help)

2. The feeling of competence (I.e. this man appears to be having a heart attack and I am nurse I can help him versus this man is having a medical issue and I don’t know what to do I hope someone else on this subway is a doctor)


Great question

Yovthey reported the gang leader sent an apology to the family

Surreal

Shit yah'll just hearing about this?

more people need worldstar in their daily rotation

Nah, knew about it since the morning after. Have family that live on that block. Just watching how it transpires, they now have 8 in custody. According to video footage, there was about 12 to 15 involved.

He was a police explorer

Word.

I feel that's one of the reasons why they went so hard and found 6 of the 12.

Shits crazy. Poor kid, man. To me, that's why self defense whether MMA or Boxing is so important. He couldve at least tried to defend himself.

“He could have at least tried to defend himself?”

You’re so fucking ignorant


You don’t think he tried? Against 5 guys with deadly weapons and all he had was tooth and nail? I’ll spit on your fuckin grave when you croak

No he didn’t, moron. Did you not watch the video? He was knocked down to the ground and dragged out screaming for help. Not once did he try and defend himself. He was helpless in the situation.

And keep wishing death on me, you piece of shit. Karmas a bitch and I’m sure you’ll get it before I do. Careful what you wish for.

So if he’s helpless how could he defend himself?

OHH YEAH CRY FOR HELP HOLY SHIT!!!!

This the dumbest shit ever smh

They didn't do shit in the store. It was till he was dragged out of the store THEN stabbed. Had he fought back in the store, we don't know what could have happened. Maybe the Owners and associate would have tried to help him? There's a chance he could still be alive HAD HE FOUGHT back. He didn't which is why he's dead.

Even his mother stated in an interview, he's never been in a fist fight in his 14 years.

Is it really?

SO you mean to tell me, if you were in those shoes you wouldn't try and fight back regardless? You would just left niggas knock you to the ground and DRAG you out of an establishment?

Fuck that... I would have did what I could to remain inside and fought back as hard as I possibly could. Not letting no mother fucker take me down and drag my ass around.

That's just me tho.

@Diode @veritas both of you train in a combat sport.

Are you guys letting ANYONE drag you out of an establishment where outside the unknown awaits? Or are you defending yourself or at least going to try too?

That's the only point I was trying to make. No one knows what would have happened, we can only speculate and assume. But the chances of him being alive are just a tad bit greater had he been trained in some form of self defense. He wasn't. And his mother confirmed it, like I stated above when she made the comment about him being a super good kid always happy never ever being in an altercation in his 14 years of living.

The shit is just sad man.

amen we get the sentiment you just put it out there ignorantly. like boxing or mma training would have helped a 14 year old against 8 dudes or however many it was. i also wouldve fought back. but it wouldn't have changed the outcome

i also dislike the dialog surrounding the owners inaction. i guess its been touched on with your guys' pseudo psychology stuff, but the majority of outrage i have seen regarding the dude online has been from instagram ho's and keyboard hooligans. its super easy to claim what you wouldve or shouldve done until you are in those shoes. fight/flight/freeze type shit. i don't fault him, i mean did he lock him out at the end though? again when he locked him out i don't know if he knew he was getting stabbed to death, we can say that when the threat was over he couldve assisted with some type of towels and shit but it happened quick.

shits a tragedy. i just know from experience the mind does goofy shit. from my boys pops getting boxcuttered from nipple to hip, to my boys baby almost choking to death on a ring, to random bar brawls in my early adulthood, my mind processes panic in strange ways. i kind of just shut down mentally and become an observer. when there is legit terror in someones face you didnt prepare for those instances so you can't comment on what someone should do while watching from the comfort of your home.

but word if im fighting its more instinct but when its others, adrenaline is completely different. if im involved its hazy as shit going off instinct, but if its others i get an eerie clarity but an inability of action until my hand is forced basically.

Only 2 dudes in the store with him. The others were outside by their cars waiting. That's why you see them swarm in once he's dragged outside of the store.

Jesus man.
Kids dont think about the shit they doing and this happens. Like wtf do they expect the outcome to be here weather it was the right kid or not. There wanted now. Little bit of scratch for the hit wasnt gonna keep yhem from doing life when they get hemmed up for this. Smh. Sad man.

Just watched video. Jesus man. R.i.p young man. Sry this happened to you.

Amen


You do know saying what u WOULD do and reacting in a high stress life and death situation is greatly different right


Ever been in a life or death situation ?

I've been jumped before. I know the feeling. And it was over a bitch as well, when I was a teenager.

Consider that life or death? IDK because I defended myself with just enough time for family to come down from inside the building and help. But some people are just a tad bit more street wise. Especially being brought up in rough neighborhoods. He was a good kid, so those instincts to defend himself weren't natural instinct, as he was more focused on screaming for help.

Any altercation could be considered life or death, as you know. You can't trust anyone because you don't know what they are capable of.

It came out the wrong way, I was just trying to speculate on the situation... I think the dudes are fucking cowards. Kid was 14. Youngest attacker was 18 and the rest basically in their 20's. He was a fucking kid.

Sad shit.

This nigga retarded. I don’t give a fuck if shorty knew moves from Bruce Lee himself.


Theirs 8 niggas with knives, fuck ur mma and boxing

Are you reading anything I'm typing?

There weren't 8 people inside the store with knives.

There was 2 INSIDE the store. I"m not saying he would have fended them off - but maybe it would have helped. Maybe him trying to defend himself against the 2 would have triggered the owner and associate to help. IDK. We will never know. What I do know is, he wasn't stabbed TILL AFTER being dragged outside. THAT is when the stabbing began. OUTSIDE. NOT INSIDE. OUTSIDE. It wasn't like 8 dudes were inside the store stabbing him.

1 vs 2 can be managed but 1 vs 8 is different. I understand that.

Uh he looked like he was struggling alot? Are u under the impression he laid down onto the ground and allowed them to drag him out of the store? Lol smh

Did he carry grams outside w/him tho?