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Chill Phil 04-07-2018 10:41 AM

The Heroo's Journey
 
So, this American mythological expert went around the world analyzing myths and legends and discovered these 12 elements that all enthralling stories have in common. It's dope but it ruined movies for me. Star wars, Lord of the rings, and all epic movies share this whole formula!

Check it out, and get your brain food today.

http://www.movieoutline.com/articles...-monomyth.html

Hush 04-07-2018 12:12 PM

Nah

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 12:29 PM

Thanks for commenting at least.

veritas 04-07-2018 12:48 PM

Forgive me for sounding like a hipster.

I am glad you are here. However late you are.

If you read my book you will see this element.

Where are you currently in the cycle Phil?

Hush 04-07-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 656309)
Forgive me for sounding like a hipster.

I am glad you are here. However late you are.

If you read my book you will see this element.

Where are you currently in the cycle Phil?

It is good but why did u double space it

veritas 04-07-2018 12:53 PM

Just to make it different. There are also no page numbers. Did you notice? There is a reason for that but I look forward to you attempting to figure out why.

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 656309)
Forgive me for sounding like a hipster.

I am glad you are here. However late you are.

If you read my book you will see this element.

Where are you currently in the cycle Phil?

I'm at #1

veritas 04-07-2018 02:08 PM

For the first time?

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 02:15 PM

Nope. I've been at a normal setting for as long as I can remember.

BodySnatcher 04-07-2018 02:17 PM

It ruins a lot of books/movies but it helped with my writing.

veritas 04-07-2018 02:25 PM

Ha! So what now? What is next?

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 04:36 PM

Maybe have a kid within the next year or so.

The old lady and I finally agreed on both a girl's and a boy's name.

veritas 04-07-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656344)
Maybe have a kid within the next year or so.

The old lady and I finally agreed on both a girl's and a boy's name.

You trolling?

Elemental P 04-07-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656286)
So, this American mythological expert went around the world analyzing myths and legends and discovered these 12 elements that all enthralling stories have in common. It's dope but it ruined movies for me. Star wars, Lord of the rings, and all epic movies share this whole formula!

Check it out, and get your brain food today.

http://www.movieoutline.com/articles...-monomyth.html

Just read this. It's just a form of writing like he said you need a beginning, mid, and end or your story is going to be trash. But was interesting to read the article and realize almost every movie and video game follows this formula. I don't see what you mean that it ruined the movies for you though, because they don't seem as "original" now?

Shit even religion follows this chart.

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 656345)
You trolling?

I'm not sophisticated enough to troll. I also don't aspire to live that kind of internet lifestyle.

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 656348)
Just read this. It's just a form of writing like he said you need a beginning, mid, and end or your story is going to be trash. But was interesting to read the article and realize almost every movie and video game follows this formula. I don't see what you mean that it ruined the movies for you though, because they don't seem as "original" now?

Shit even religion follows this chart.

It ruins it because information takes away from the magic ignorance provides. Think about how exciting Christmas was before you found out Santa doesn't exist.

Discovering all these movies and stories have the same skeleton makes it more predictable and less magical.

veritas 04-07-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656353)
I'm not sophisticated enough to troll. I also don't aspire to live that kind of internet lifestyle.

I get that you are in a weird mood.

I will rephrase it. Are you seriously planning to have children with this lady?

Elemental P 04-07-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656354)
It ruins it because information takes away from the magic ignorance provides. Think about how exciting Christmas was before you found out Santa doesn't exist.

Discovering all these movies and stories have the same skeleton makes it more predictable and less magical.

But that's the thing...you need some form of structure, and clearly this works and will continue to do so. I get what u mean but that's not a great analogy to me comparing Xmas being fake to movies, books and games having some sort of cohesive format to create a plot.

Rude 04-07-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656286)
So, this American mythological expert went around the world analyzing myths and legends and discovered these 12 elements that all enthralling stories have in common. It's dope but it ruined movies for me. Star wars, Lord of the rings, and all epic movies share this whole formula!

Check it out, and get your brain food today.

http://www.movieoutline.com/articles...-monomyth.html

Ah it's cool you brought this up, actually just got done reading some of his work from these books :

The Hero's Jourey
The Power of Myth
Creative Mythology
Myths to Live By
The Hero with a Thousand Faces

On one hand I can see the disappointment in finding out the 'movie magic' and original scripting is all based on 1 common structure. But on the other hand if you think about it, why do we even have movies and video games and books? Everything had to start from somewhere.


In any regard the books are a great read if you're going to do any writing (still entertaining if you don't) I was working on my story/series before I came across Joseph Campbell's work but after reading it I couldn't see any other way to subtitle my series but based off the term Monomyth. (each title after adapting a form of that basic idea)

Chill Phil 04-07-2018 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 656365)
I get that you are in a weird mood.

I will rephrase it. Are you seriously planning to have children with this lady?

Yup!

Batty 04-08-2018 01:20 AM

I figured everybody knew about Joseph Campbell, at least by high school. Stories of heroes have been passed down for so many years and always will be. There are very select reasons why people want to hear these stories, Campbell is one of the major players in dissecting the formula and creating dialogue about it.

Consider Superman... If you didn't give him human attachments, mentoring and a weakness to a specific green rock, he'd just be a buff ass alien dude dickpunching people into the sun. Folks would get tired of that shit quick.

Once you start deviating too far from the basic constructs of the hero's journey, that's when you see shit getting stupid. Just look at the last Star Wars movie, it fucking sucked.

anybody that wants to write on any level needs to peep that shit forreal.

yall ever peep the doc Zeitgeist tho?

Chill Phil 04-08-2018 09:57 AM

Zeitgeist's name has been popping up in my life waaaaay too much to be a coincidence.
@Batty what's his schtick?

Elemental P 04-08-2018 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Batty (Post 656488)
I figured everybody knew about Joseph Campbell, at least by high school. Stories of heroes have been passed down for so many years and always will be. There are very select reasons why people want to hear these stories, Campbell is one of the major players in dissecting the formula and creating dialogue about it.

Consider Superman... If you didn't give him human attachments, mentoring and a weakness to a specific green rock, he'd just be a buff ass alien dude dickpunching people into the sun. Folks would get tired of that shit quick.

Once you start deviating too far from the basic constructs of the hero's journey, that's when you see shit getting stupid. Just look at the last Star Wars movie, it fucking sucked.

anybody that wants to write on any level needs to peep that shit forreal.

yall ever peep the doc Zeitgeist tho?

Yes and Zeitgeist is a lot of bullshit tbh. There are some factual evidence in it tho. And I died at Superman punching people in the dick LMFAO.

Beware of disinformation tho. Zeitgeist has some shit twisted but for the most part it's str8.

I suggest William Cooper's MYSTERY BABYLON SERIES

Inno 04-08-2018 12:17 PM

I thought this was common knowledge?

I mean I’ve watched more than one movie.

I don’t get who this is new information lol

Batty 04-08-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 656538)
Yes and Zeitgeist is a lot of bullshit tbh. There are some factual evidence in it tho. And I died at Superman punching people in the dick LMFAO.

Beware of disinformation tho. Zeitgeist has some shit twisted but for the most part it's str8.

I suggest William Cooper's MYSTERY BABYLON SERIES


If you've made it this far, then you already know that EVERY documentary out there gets shit twisted, especially any that touches on 9/11. There's just too much cash to be made on the controversy.

My point was about the story telling aspect of religion and why people love to tell the story of the "chosen one". They discuss that in the doc, and for the most part it is accurate. I've discussed this doc for years now, its really a case of those people that say some aspects are inaccurate truly can't provide proof otherwise. I choose to focus on the most accurate info discussed in it.

Elemental P 04-08-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Batty (Post 656542)
If you've made it this far, then you already know that EVERY documentary out there gets shit twisted, especially any that touches on 9/11. There's just too much cash to be made on the controversy.

My point was about the story telling aspect of religion and why people love to tell the story of the "chosen one". They discuss that in the doc, and for the most part it is accurate. I've discussed this doc for years now, its really a case of those people that say some aspects are inaccurate truly can't provide proof otherwise. I choose to focus on the most accurate info discussed in it.

I agree with you there. I don't find it ironic either that religion follows this type of "structure" if you will. Almost to a T. Not just Christianity but back to Egyptian mythology etc. Apparently there's a rhyme and a reason to the chaos IMO. But unfortunately Jordan Maxwell is a disinformation spewer unwittingly or knowingly doesn't matter. William Cooper read some of his writings on his show and if you know as much as I assume u do then u can deduce that Cooper is definitely more on the right track with these subjects than Maxwell.

Batty 04-08-2018 05:06 PM

I've heard the debate between the 2 of them, I'm pretty sure it's still mostly all online and available for ppl to peep. IIRC, Cooper exposed Maxwell on some of his BSing, but yo a lot of their arguments were based on symbolism and the supernatural, so you're not gonna find the same response from everybody on the results of this feud. There's a nice sized group of Cooper supporters that think he was an agent of God and was given divine knowledge, yo not everybody is gonna accept that.

I would trust dated scripts like something similar to Christianity that predated it, but everything must be accepted within a certain context.

I could write a giant stone tablet of lies right now and it could be found 2,000 years from now and be accepted as truth.

Scientists can date shit, but once so much time has passed, proving how accurate the statements are could be impossible. The problem is that the general public tends to think: if it is written text and it's really old, it's gotta be true.

Are you familiar with the Hinterkaifeck murders?

veritas 04-08-2018 05:11 PM

I am almost convinced of flat earth. Will continue studying.

Batty 04-09-2018 12:51 AM

Jesus and Anakin Skywalker have the same back story.

WRATH 04-09-2018 02:12 AM

No ideas original

Elemental P 04-09-2018 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Batty (Post 656586)
Jesus and Anakin Skywalker have the same back story.

Yea pretty much. I don't believe Cooper is some divine messenger but what makes him Different than the others is he admitted when he was wrong and would tell his listeners etc. Cooper didn't like to be put on a pedestal. There's books he suggested that I actually owned physical copies of (two of my.most important ones were borrowed and never returned...cunt)

68 Convocation of the Rose Cross Order (I HIGHLY SUGGEST you peep that book bro some crazy shit in it. It was wrote in 1916 or so I believe and was reprinted.)

I'm not familiar with the name you mentioned I'll have to look em up. But when it comes to conspiracy theories like this with the Symbolism etc as we mentioned, Cooper was the man.

I don't believe in Alex Jones, or Tsarion, or Maxwell, or those others b.c I don't believe their credentials. Cooper really was for the people, and wanted to wake us up before he was gunned down on his own porch, which he ironically predicted. Behold a Pale Horse is a good book but that's not the same William Cooper that was as knowledgeable as the one who did the Mystery Babylon broadcast which is literally a 30+hr Expose' of the lineage of the brothhoods that existed all the way back to the Assassins and before. Batty I'll have to hit you in a PM to discuss more of this or make a new thread cuz there is some subjects I'd like ur opinion on you don't seem as sheeple as a lot do in this subject.

Elemental P 04-09-2018 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 656577)
I am almost convinced of flat earth. Will continue studying.

I can't fuck with it....nah. science bruh

Chill Phil 04-09-2018 10:48 AM

I've looked into flat earth and round Earth so much I've basically determined that I'll never know. Like truly KNOW.

veritas 04-09-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656619)
I've looked into flat earth and round Earth so much I've basically determined that I'll never know. Like truly KNOW.

This is interesting

Chill Phil 04-09-2018 12:25 PM

Started with the Bedford level experiment. Then I hopped down the rabbit hole. Which led me to knowing I'll never know.

Elemental P 04-09-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 656642)
Started with the Bedford level experiment. Then I hopped down the rabbit hole. Which led me to knowing I'll never know.

So you believe every single picture of space has been fabricated? I love how flat earthers always say "well we can never know for sure" nah I disagree. I seriously doubt the Hubble telescope created 100000s of imaginary images to fool people just because the government wants the people to think the world is flat.

There is actual math and physics used to explain a sphererical earth unlike the "theories" flat Earth YouTubers give.

They also make the claim the rest of the solar system has the planets round....but earth is not...lol wtf

Amen 04-09-2018 12:48 PM

Flat earth believers: "We have flat earth theorists around the globe."

Enough said. NASA been lying to us since forever ago, right guys?

FOH

Chill Phil 04-09-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 656646)
So you believe every single picture of space has been fabricated? I love how flat earthers always say "well we can never know for sure" nah I disagree. I seriously doubt the Hubble telescope created 100000s of imaginary images to fool people just because the government wants the people to think the world is flat.

There is actual math and physics used to explain a sphererical earth unlike the "theories" flat Earth YouTubers give.

They also make the claim the rest of the solar system has the planets round....but earth is not...lol wtf

You're talking at me as if I said I was a flat earther.

I clearly stated that I don't know either way. Both sides have solid arguments.

Do I trust NASA or the government? Nope. Do I believe propaganda has been implemented on American people? Yes.

I believe that NASA is a preschool version of our real space programs...


But yeah...I don't know what shape the Earth is. None of us do.

Elemental P 04-09-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen (Post 656649)
Flat earth believers: "We have flat earth theorists around the globe."

Enough said. NASA been lying to us since forever ago, right guys?

FOH

I don't think it's a bad idea to question everything per se but to let paranoia dictate between fact and fiction is a no for me. Im a conspiracy theorist too, fucking Illuminati and Freemason bs mainly but flat Earth is interesting, but it's not logical IMO.

"Pictures of earth are fake NASA even said so"
That's taken out of context also, NASA adjusts the vividness of the earth to make it look more "earthy and green" when it really doesn't look as green as we think. They admitted to altering some pictures yes but that don't make the earth a fucking hexagon rubix cube planet. Physics favors spheres b.c that's how gravity works.

People saying now that time isn't real b.c it was created by man, which is really the same.old stupid question "if a tree falls in the woods". I think mankind discovered time but that doesn't make it unreal. Fucking most things are debateable except for math.

Ghost1 04-09-2018 01:30 PM

has anyone mentioned the recent discovery that we cannot and will not ever be able to put a human on the moon as per NASA's recent admission ? basically proves we never landed on the moon.....fucked up shit


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