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Nick James 02-14-2018 03:18 AM

flat earth theory shit
 
who wuld be crazy enuff to believe this shit..

I mean I like conspiracies i prolly watch waaay too many vids about completely irrational opinions/ideas and tell myself im learnin somethin important cuz even a retard spinnin with a finger out points in the right direction at some point but this shit? wtf

sral 02-14-2018 07:56 AM

Flat Earth Society member here. We are rather serious about our beliefs and have an active community dedicated to discussing them. Feel free to check us out on http://www.tfes.org - there's plenty of ways to reach out.

A good starting point would be our FAQ: http://faq.tfes.org/

We have a forum, also, that operates largely like this one: https://forum.tfes.org/

Elemental P 02-14-2018 08:03 AM

Hot dumpster sauce. I ain't buying that shit. No gravity? The sun is 50miles in diameter or something? Space is filled with water? The moons a hologram? Nah I'm good, i believe in science. To each their own.

Destroyer 02-14-2018 08:11 AM

Yeah it’s pretty obvious when there is an eclipse and the earth casts its shadow on the moon that the shit is round.

https://i.redd.it/51a1k2lw70fz.jpg

Schadenfreude 02-14-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642098)
Hot dumpster sauce. I ain't buying that shit. No gravity? The sun is 50miles in diameter or something? Space is filled with water? The moons a hologram? Nah I'm good, i believe in science. To each their own.

WAIT WHAT? LMAOOOOO

That's why I don't get into the conspiratorial bs.

Amen 02-14-2018 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 642100)
Yeah it’s pretty obvious when there is an eclipse and the earth casts its shadow on the moon that the shit is round.

https://i.redd.it/51a1k2lw70fz.jpg

Lmao

Nick James 02-14-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642096)
Flat Earth Society member here. We are rather serious about our beliefs and have an active community dedicated to discussing them. Feel free to check us out on http://www.tfes.org - there's plenty of ways to reach out.

A good starting point would be our FAQ: http://faq.tfes.org/

We have a forum, also, that operates largely like this one: https://forum.tfes.org/

lol I knew there'd be somebody here supportin this..

im as open minded as they come so make me a believer bro..

why do the seasons such as winter exist accordin to this model? Ive seen the vid that explains gravity n thats plausible but so many holes pop up in a flat earth argument n I never see yall actually answer them just dance around the question with 'u been fooled'

Geno 02-14-2018 02:29 PM

Nah man. The earth could be flat. But two sided. Why not. We could still sail around the world without going off the edge and shit. At least thats how i see it. I mean idk man. Doesnt explain all the globes out there and doesnt explain other things that i cant explain need explaining shit. Ya know

Shits flat man. You never pumped one out that was really flat? Crazy shit. Flat shit man

Ghost1 02-14-2018 02:35 PM

u see? now my comment in the Kenny cereal guy thread should make more sense.

Nick James 02-14-2018 02:42 PM

flat earth theorists tend to be somethin like this..

allow me to do this 2 liter experiment

full of coke and carbonated (key word there) it takes the form of round. after I open this bottle and sit it out over time it becomes flat.. see what happened there

so ur like wtf dude that aint flat as in flat n u ask a bunch of questions n theyre just like dont be fooled its flat.

Nick James 02-14-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 642126)
u see? now my comment in the Kenny cereal guy thread should make more sense.

lmao

im catchin on

Inno 02-14-2018 04:12 PM

EXPLAIN HOLO EARTH THO

YOU NIGGAS LATE

sral 02-14-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick James (Post 642119)
lol I knew there'd be somebody here supportin this..

im as open minded as they come so make me a believer bro..

why do the seasons such as winter exist accordin to this model? Ive seen the vid that explains gravity n thats plausible but so many holes pop up in a flat earth argument n I never see yall actually answer them just dance around the question with 'u been fooled'


https://wiki.tfes.org/File:Seasons.png

The sun orbits around the earth. It changes the diameter of its orbit to cause it to be larger, or smaller, and hence nearer or closer to the earth to cause the seasons.

Of course, you can make your own opinion of whether the earth orbits around the sun or the sun orbits around the earth. In other words, the sun "shifts gears" to change the size of its orbit, which causes the seasons.

The sun's path is not consistent throughout the year. At the equinoxs, the sun travels directly over the equator. During the northern summer, the sun orbits closer and closer to the North Pole. During the northern winter, the orbit grows bigger and the sun gets farther from the north pole. Hope this helped.

sral 02-14-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick James (Post 642127)
flat earth theorists tend to be somethin like this..

allow me to do this 2 liter experiment

full of coke and carbonated (key word there) it takes the form of round. after I open this bottle and sit it out over time it becomes flat.. see what happened there

so ur like wtf dude that aint flat as in flat n u ask a bunch of questions n theyre just like dont be fooled its flat.

I see you're not taking me seriously so I'll take this opportunity to leave your thread without further comment. You can't debate with someone who's mind is already made up that you're wrong.

sral 02-14-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642098)
Hot dumpster sauce. I ain't buying that shit. No gravity? The sun is 50miles in diameter or something? Space is filled with water? The moons a hologram? Nah I'm good, i believe in science. To each their own.

The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.

Enbombz 02-14-2018 05:26 PM

Lars ypu trolling? your not one of these shoulder biters really?

Nick James 02-14-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642143)
https://wiki.tfes.org/File:Seasons.png

The sun orbits around the earth. It changes the diameter of its orbit to cause it to be larger, or smaller, and hence nearer or closer to the earth to cause the seasons.

Of course, you can make your own opinion of whether the earth orbits around the sun or the sun orbits around the earth. In other words, the sun "shifts gears" to change the size of its orbit, which causes the seasons.

The sun's path is not consistent throughout the year. At the equinoxs, the sun travels directly over the equator. During the northern summer, the sun orbits closer and closer to the North Pole. During the northern winter, the orbit grows bigger and the sun gets farther from the north pole. Hope this helped.

okay now that makes sense. sun orbiting the earth would explain this.. which would mean that nothing in the solar system except the sun is actually moving? so we should be judging everything by the speed at which the sun is moving rather than us. I feel einsteins theory of relativity shimmering through now.

the part that is actually intriguing in the theory is the stars flickering luminecent colors being eerily similiar to what it would be if seen through water.

but how can we explain this.. we live in a day where theres so many very good scientists in every country that arent mainstream or subject to be forced into deceiving us that are exploring and researching on their own with their own telescopes and their own team of other scientists.. wouldnt they have atleast came acrossed ONE anomaly that would force them to entertain the possibility?

my next question.. how does cymatics play into all this? this is what im big on and is far too embedded in every form of nature and societies ancient and modern to be overlooked. Frequencies manipulate this reality made up of matter micro and macro its the hand behind fibonacci and phi.. it is the governing force. I see flat earth theorists tying this in but either theyre not knowledgable enough or just arent qualified enough as teachers to present the information in a way thats perceivable.

Diode 02-14-2018 05:51 PM

fuck off eddie bravo

Nick James 02-14-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642144)
I see you're not taking me seriously so I'll take this opportunity to leave your thread without further comment. You can't debate with someone who's mind is already made up that you're wrong.

no this example is only true due to most ppl that are arguing their theory not even fully understanding their OWN theory before pushing it on to someone else.

which is fine because even though the flat earth model is ancient in origin science has only begun to actually entertain the possibility with the instruments at their disposal while also keeping in mind all the information we've gathered since the first model was theorized.

EDIT: answers my own question in the post before

Nick James 02-14-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 642150)
fuck off eddie bravo

lmao this is exactly who im referring to as far as someone arguing a theory that he doesnt even understand and once u pose a formidable question he shells up n reverts to "ur being fooled man".

maybe a form of disinformation? possibly

Finnydot 02-14-2018 06:45 PM

If the Earth is flat, Finny is a good rapper.

For Battling 02-14-2018 07:03 PM

1 star nah

The Dead Poet 02-14-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode (Post 642150)
fuck off eddie bravo

it's Edgy Brah

KennyCerealBowl 02-15-2018 12:28 AM

No just no.

sral 02-15-2018 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick James (Post 642149)
okay now that makes sense. sun orbiting the earth would explain this.. which would mean that nothing in the solar system except the sun is actually moving? so we should be judging everything by the speed at which the sun is moving rather than us. I feel einsteins theory of relativity shimmering through now.

the part that is actually intriguing in the theory is the stars flickering luminecent colors being eerily similiar to what it would be if seen through water.

but how can we explain this.. we live in a day where theres so many very good scientists in every country that arent mainstream or subject to be forced into deceiving us that are exploring and researching on their own with their own telescopes and their own team of other scientists.. wouldnt they have atleast came acrossed ONE anomaly that would force them to entertain the possibility?

my next question.. how does cymatics play into all this? this is what im big on and is far too embedded in every form of nature and societies ancient and modern to be overlooked. Frequencies manipulate this reality made up of matter micro and macro its the hand behind fibonacci and phi.. it is the governing force. I see flat earth theorists tying this in but either theyre not knowledgable enough or just arent qualified enough as teachers to present the information in a way thats perceivable.


In what ways do a spherical Earth continue a fractal pattern that a flat Earth do not? I'm not sure I see where you're going with this and would like a bit of clarification on that.

Fractals are little more than, essentially, an observed phenomenon. They only exist in theory, but "fractal-like" patterns are found throughout nature, some to extraordinary degrees. However, they are not laws of nature and the presence, or absence, of fractal patterns does not confirm or deny the validity of a hypothesis.

Nick James 02-15-2018 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642206)
In what ways do a spherical Earth continue a fractal pattern that a flat Earth do not? I'm not sure I see where you're going with this and would like a bit of clarification on that.

Fractals are little more than, essentially, an observed phenomenon. They only exist in theory, but "fractal-like" patterns are found throughout nature, some to extraordinary degrees. However, they are not laws of nature and the presence, or absence, of fractal patterns does not confirm or deny the validity of a hypothesis.

Na that question isnt intended to challenge the theory lol im trying to connect somethin that is rlly quite unexplainable with this model that might favor its possibility over the current one.

frequencies n vibrations take shape n patterns and these shapes and patterns are seen from the molecular level to the cosmic level. i cant help but feel whether the earth was round or flat would have to fit in there somewhere whether favorable on unfavorable considering we're talking about shapes.. wuldnt you agree? problem is cymatics isnt even fully understood.. but sometimes connecting 2 unknowns helps answer questions regarding both that wasnt possible before.

the first i seen connecting the 2 is the luminescent waves and patterns stars appear to display, as well as planets by freelance astronomers. when frequencies are ran through water its manipulated into the same patterns we see in the stars/planets in a way that is pretty fuckin weird.

makes me wonder what else is similiar..

Elemental P 02-15-2018 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642145)
The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.

See I can't find that logical. I can't see the earth constantly moving up ward in order to produce something that acts as gravity that's similar to terminal velocity (updraft causes the falling object to only fall at a certain speed giving it's mass and density). I've watched ton of YouTube videos and I'm not convinced. There are no actual mathematics to support the claim where as there's actually physics and math formulas to support the globe and you can't really argue with math, even the rotation of the earth, it's curveture ect is taken in to affect. Gravity is strong enough to form a globe of the earth. The earth followed the sun's orbit gathering debris, gravity pulls everything to the center so was the earth gsthers more debris send gains more mass it starts to form the earth to be round.

Nick James 02-15-2018 06:05 AM

I guess the biggest similiarly is what I intuitively understood but couldnt connect til like 5 seconds ago lol

Its biblical. in the beginning there was the word (sound, frequency, vibration) and god made the earth before he made the sun n the moon.

Elemental P 02-15-2018 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick James (Post 642210)
I guess the biggest similiarly is what I intuitively understood but couldnt connect til like 5 seconds ago lol

Its biblical. in the beginning there was the word (sound, frequency, vibration) and god made the earth before he made the sun n the moon.

You really believe the earth was made before the solar system?

Nick James 02-15-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642209)
See I can't find that logical. I can't see the earth constantly moving up ward in order to produce something that acts as gravity that's similar to terminal velocity (updraft causes the falling object to only fall at a certain speed giving it's mass and density). I've watched ton of YouTube videos and I'm not convinced. There are no actual mathematics to support the claim where as there's actually physics and math formulas to support the globe and you can't really argue with math, even the rotation of the earth, it's curveture ect is taken in to affect. Gravity is strong enough to form a globe of the earth. The earth followed the sun's orbit gathering debris, gravity pulls everything to the center so was the earth gsthers more debris send gains more mass it starts to form the earth to be round.

after what ive gathered ive determined that the scientific study of the flat earth theory is so little understood and so early in support/funding that an actual 'model' or end product is still up in the air even between the theorists themselves therefore filled with holes in every direction.

now, that doesnt mean there isnt valuable knowledge to be found in lookin at this with an open mind. gems are found in the dirt. because the basis they are building around starts with we've never been to the moon. I now accept THAT as fact and by researching this it has presented alot of evidence regarding that.

2nd there is literally NOTHING nasa has presented that isnt bullshit. the man that photoshopped 'the blue marble', a satellite image of the earth taken for the first time since the 1970s already admitted it. every picture of every thing from planets to satellites shown on nasa is somethin made for a ps4. interviews from the space station show support harnesses imitating zero gravity and the space station? point that shit out up there with a telescope cuz it aint there. satellites.. as far as old and new there shuld be hundreds maybe thousands and again.. you culdnt point em out with a fuckin hubble scope lol. the key point is there is NO actual images of earth from afar. thats a gamechanger.

what that tells me is we are faking a space exploration program. do you know how much money we have put into this? man it is astronomical.. its the greatest money scam in history. where is the money goin? fuck if the earth is flat lol the very foundation their argument is based on would cause this government, democracy, nation, world to literally collapse. the very idea of it is so threatening to our society that it will always be suppressed nomatter what angle they come from. the flat earth society may be disinformation to shroud something like this as unbelievable and crazy.

Nick James 02-15-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642211)
You really believe the earth was made before the solar system?

refer to my last post.

im not saying any way you look at it is correct or incorrect..

what we claim we know about space is pure hypothesis. we've claimed we've known so many things but then we start learning about other shit (quantum mechanics) and it crushes the models of what we knew then it hits a wall and another theory picks up in the end the more we end up learnin the less we end up knowin. does that even make sense? Lol but its true the deeper we go trying to explain this reality the harder it becomes. at some point you have to begin to wonder if that is the point? maybe there is a god and we just will never explain him with science.

Nick James 02-15-2018 07:18 AM

until you personally go to the moon look down on the earth and say 'hey thats a sphere' or 'hey thats flat' you will always have to believe a second, third, or fourth hand account.

isnt that what were doin when we read the bible? when we put faith in absolutely any religion.

ill keep approaching everything with an open mind til I find what resonates with me. Im gonna roll this loud and ponder the universe cuz what're you rlly doin with ur life if you aint searchin for truth or inner peace?

sral 02-15-2018 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick James (Post 642217)
refer to my last post.

im not saying any way you look at it is correct or incorrect..

what we claim we know about space is pure hypothesis. we've claimed we've known so many things but then we start learning about other shit (quantum mechanics) and it crushes the models of what we knew then it hits a wall and another theory picks up in the end the more we end up learnin the less we end up knowin. does that even make sense? Lol but its true the deeper we go trying to explain this reality the harder it becomes. at some point you have to begin to wonder if that is the point? maybe there is a god and we just will never explain him with science.

Now you're talking.

Our views aren't that far from each other, I don't believe in "God" as your typical white guy with a beard in the clouds character some may well do, but a fundamental universal creator of some sort - a force or law - I can definitely relate to. Flat Earth or not.

sral 02-15-2018 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642209)
See I can't find that logical. I can't see the earth constantly moving up ward in order to produce something that acts as gravity that's similar to terminal velocity (updraft causes the falling object to only fall at a certain speed giving it's mass and density). I've watched ton of YouTube videos and I'm not convinced. There are no actual mathematics to support the claim where as there's actually physics and math formulas to support the globe and you can't really argue with math, even the rotation of the earth, it's curveture ect is taken in to affect. Gravity is strong enough to form a globe of the earth. The earth followed the sun's orbit gathering debris, gravity pulls everything to the center so was the earth gsthers more debris send gains more mass it starts to form the earth to be round.

Due to special relativity, this is not the case. At this point, many you guys will only question the validity of any answer which uses advanced, intimidating-sounding physics terms to explain a position. However, it is true. The relevant equation is v/c = tanh (at/c). One will find that in this equation, tanh(at/c) can never exceed or equal 1. This means that velocity can never reach the speed of light, regardless of how long one accelerates for and the rate of the acceleration.

Also; see Nick James' post above concerning all we "know" being hypothesis. You trust this because it's what you've been told. It is not fact and no scientist would claim it to be.

Nick James 02-15-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 642221)
Now you're talking.

Our views aren't that far from each other, I don't believe in "God" as your typical white guy with a beard in the clouds character some may well do, but a fundamental universal creator of some sort - a force or law - I can definitely relate to. Flat Earth or not.

yea, for sure.

ive spent so much time locked in cells reading books and just doin general thinking tryin to escape mentally/spiritually to compensate for bein contained physically that ive become an addict to the dopamine it releases everytime I learn somethin new lol.

Elemental P 02-15-2018 08:52 AM

What about the deep space Hubble telescope images? Do you really believe all that is just fake and Photoshop?

Nick James 02-15-2018 08:55 AM

most ppl dont even kno over the last 10 years we've been doin retarded shit like this..

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...act-crash.html

in short we bombed the moon looking for evidence of water lol. if we rlly went to the moon or are 'landing rovers on mars' this would be taking a far step back. why not just send a rover? any logical think tank that billions of dollars should have would put a satellite on the moon.. not a flag or a bomb. theyre laughing in our face.

funny thing is that neither the bomb nor the satellite nor the impact could be seen by anyone even though ppl around the world had their telescopes out watching. only ppl that seen it was of course nasa.

then the space x rocket.. dude sent a tesla car with a dummy in the seat up and took a 'picture' in front of the earth. i dont know if he was showing how easy it is to deceive us or if we're literally being mocked at this point

https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2...rip=all&w=1438


^ but are you serious?

Elemental P 02-15-2018 08:59 AM

No I have my own beliefs but earth being flat isn't one and yea maybe I am bias but to me it's irrelevant, everything is an illusion anyway. I like Egyptian mythology, Taoism etc so my thoughts of these topics is just to see what other peoples opinions are on them because really our own perception is what we ultimately know. But ancient civilizations were more advanced in astrology and math than us today and I can't recall which civilizations thought the world to be flat. But James is right I haven't seen it myself

Amen 02-15-2018 09:00 AM

We live in a world where people will type anything on social media and other people will believe it just because 1,000,000 likes were clicked.

Read a book guys.

Bill Nye to thread please.

Nick James 02-15-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Elemental P (Post 642231)
What about the deep space Hubble telescope images? Do you really believe all that is just fake and Photoshop?

every picture taken from nasa's hubble concerning planets looks just as fake as the earths. after you fool the world with the moon mission and your paid BILLIONS to produce further exploration you literally have to produce results. how else would the money keep coming?

the kicker is ur average joes zoomin in on planets and postin vids. they look NOTHIN like what we've been shown. they're erratic, luminescent and wavy like a hologram or light seen through water.

im convinced we truly dont know anything about space and its been monopolized as a business market. greatest money maker in the history of humans.


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