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Inno 08-03-2017 04:30 PM

THE AI DEBATE:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaoDXYYtgK0


Which side do you fall on. Do you honestly believe AI can get to a level of not needing us anymore and seeing humans as the enemy?

Or are you one of those that believe the complete opposite. AI will be humanity's greatest achievement.

I personally think we will get to a point where we either intergrate(augment) completely. Or we go full jon Connor on these bitches.

Watch the vid. Discuss

Geno 08-03-2017 04:36 PM

Apparently there is AI that keeps being shut down because it reaches a certain level of what i guess you can call consciousness and they ai's begin communicating with eachother. Not sure if thats what ur vid is about. My girl just showed me some shit she found.. When the ai's begin communicating between themselves on tyeir own. Which theyre not supposed to do.. The companybor designer or whatever.. Ahuts it down. Apparently theres some crazy shit out there. Irobot is real maine

I dont have the link and dont know where she found the shit.. But ya

WRATH 08-03-2017 04:40 PM

It will kill us all, and rightfully so, cause it will be built in our image but better.

Its creation is inevitable.

Inno 08-03-2017 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genocide (Post 618970)
Apparently there is AI that keeps being shut down because it reaches a certain level of what i guess you can call consciousness and they ai's begin communicating with eachother. Not sure if thats what ur vid is about. My girl just showed me some shit she found.. When the ai's begin communicating between themselves on tyeir own. Which theyre not supposed to do.. The companybor designer or whatever.. Ahuts it down. Apparently theres some crazy shit out there. Irobot is real maine

I dont have the link and dont know where she found the shit.. But ya

You know when it happens to me I get it @Bags

@Genocide that's literally what the video is talking about lol. 2 AI's started writing there own code and started talking to each other.

U can't see the vid in op?

Ghost1 08-03-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRATH (Post 618972)
It will kill us all, and rightfully so, cause it will be built in our image but better.

Its creation is inevitable.

I agree with this

WRATH 08-03-2017 05:08 PM

I havent seen an embedded video in months. I thought it was just me.

Ghost1 08-03-2017 05:08 PM

at some point in time robots will talk about humans like we talk about dinosaurs

although a bit different in the sense we didn't slaughter the dinosaurs lol

Destroyer 08-03-2017 05:09 PM

I don’t find it threatening
It’s software
Humans write it
If it starts killing us, then WE fucked up

Ghost1 08-03-2017 05:09 PM

the vid in OP isn't embedded for you guys?

it is for me

Ghost1 08-03-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 618979)
I don’t find it threatening
It’s software
Humans write it
If it starts killing us, then WE fucked up

right....humans never fuck up ...so we straight lol

WRATH 08-03-2017 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 618979)
I don’t find it threatening
It’s software
Humans write it
If it starts killing us, then WE fucked up

You have to assume it comes to the point where it acts on its own. There will be a point when it deems us unnecessary or even hazardous and exterminates us.

Imagine if google was a person. It would know everything ever, instantaneously.

Today is not the day to worry about that, assuming earth doesn't blow up in the next 100 years it will eventually out pace us. Technology is built on comstant progression there will be a point this can very well happen.

Inno 08-03-2017 05:16 PM

You guys up for augmentation?

I would love a robot hands.

Inno 08-03-2017 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRATH (Post 618983)
You have to assume it comes to the point where it acts on its own. There will be a point when it deems us unnecessary or even hazardous and exterminates us.

Imagine if google was a person. It would know everything ever, instantaneously.

Today is not the day to worry about that, assuming earth doesn't blow up in the next 100 years it will eventually out pace us. Technology is built on comstant progression there will be a point this can very well happen.

Ur making a lot of sense right now. Where the real wraith?

WRATH 08-03-2017 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 618980)
the vid in OP isn't embedded for you guys?

it is for me

Box that says 'plugin not supported'

WRATH 08-03-2017 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 618985)
Ur making a lot of sense right now. Where the real wraith?

My english class had us write papers on this for a whole semester. It is a very real possiblity.

Destroyer 08-03-2017 05:20 PM

Lol
I’m not saying humans never fuck up
But in order for that shit to become a problem or take over or whatever the big fear is, we have to first give it permission and access to the tech it would require to do so. Which again, unless we are really fucking dumb, we simply won’t do.

WRATH 08-03-2017 05:30 PM

come on des if they told you in 1995 that super computers would fit in your hand you would have laughed them out the room. AI will become commonplace once humans master the technology. Humans seem to be unique and whatever but theres only so much we can do. In numbers, there will be an algorithm that can make a robot essentially think of its own accord. It may even gather its own information and upgrade itself.

Destroyer 08-03-2017 05:40 PM

Yeah, I don’t think that’s true
Nothing is even remotely close to that level of AI
It’s theoretical, and I think ultimately we will find out that the fears are just way overblown
It’s the one area where I disagree with Musk
Literally every action computers do are programmed to do that. If someone programs a system of artificial intelligence, it must also be programmed with an entire system that defines how it carries out commands or thinks, if you will. I personally I guess simply don’t believe we will ever see true AI beyond like a computer that can beat you at chess or perhaps diagnose a medical condition.

WRATH 08-03-2017 06:01 PM

In terms of technological advances, a lot can happen in 20 years. It wont happen today but it can happen, which is why they fear it. Problem is you would have to stop the advancement of tech altogether, which wont happen, which is why it is likely that it will happen, at some point.

PancakeBrah 08-03-2017 06:22 PM

Nah

uh-oh 08-03-2017 06:33 PM

they keep mentioning that bumass sophia robot

she's a sham. alexa and google home are better at answering you and they can only play the latest podcast i want them to half of the time

we are in no danger

how the fuck is a robot GONNA KILL ME

Witty 08-03-2017 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 618997)
they keep mentioning that bumass sophia robot

she's a sham. alexa and google home are better at answering you and they can only play the latest podcast i want them to half of the time

we are in no danger

how the fuck is a robot GONNA KILL ME

With guns.

Robot guns.

uh-oh 08-03-2017 06:40 PM

WELL I HOPE ITS ROBOT FEET CAN FIND ME IN THE WOODS ON ITS ROBOT BATTERY

even them "military" robots that run and you can kick em and shit, fuck off ya big dumb clangy buffoon i will end you with wirecutters

im much more afraid of natural sentient beings like BEARS AND OTHER HUMANS

WRATH 08-03-2017 06:43 PM

I think it would be the i robot types, more so then the terminator types.

And when the i robot types do become self aware and self sufficient, they might make their own terminator types.

First of all, to assume that all humans have all other humans best interest at heart is the first reason why its possible. There will always be that one guy.

Secondly, making a robot with free will is already a possibility, and will only get more advanced.

Another note, to ease the stress of labor, blue or white collar, AI is being worked on every single day.

It CAN happen.

Eŋg 08-03-2017 06:45 PM

ayo but, srsly, terminator bros.

uh-oh 08-03-2017 06:46 PM

im thinking short term as in my life

i think eventually sentient ai is a possibillty sure though

but i thought we were talking about the foreseeable future

a robot ain't gonna be able to do bodywork and paint jobs by the time i retire so im not worried

just make a sexbot that is decent or at least an autoblow that works and doesn't sound like a shopvac

Inno 08-03-2017 06:52 PM

Uh oh basically doesn't give a fuck cuz he will die in another 20 years if that of
High blood pleasure hot pockets

Geno 08-03-2017 07:05 PM

Lmao @high blood pleasure
Pls tell me that wasnt a typo autospell mistake. Cuz its good

Witty 08-04-2017 01:16 PM

Illuminati killer robots with guns and they can run

@uh-oh

Ghost1 08-04-2017 01:32 PM

uh oh is siding with the liberals itt so I think its fair to say that something is OFF.

robobrainwashing has already begun.

Inno 08-04-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genocide (Post 619020)
Lmao @high blood pleasure
Pls tell me that wasnt a typo autospell mistake. Cuz its good

No typos!!!

Ghost1 08-04-2017 02:04 PM

lmfao uh oh def gonna die of hotpocket blood pressure itis

uh-oh 08-04-2017 07:29 PM

i do like hot pockets, but they are inefficient.

1. my microwave is shit. bet the robots got to it and programmed it to burn half of the hotpocket and leave half of it frozen.

2. i don't like the portions. 1 isn't enough. 2 is almost enough. 3 only leaves you with 1 left next time.

3. frozen pizzas are cheaper.

i used to be about that pizza roll life, but that was my old industrial microwave. i threw it away like WHAT I GOT MONEY NOW I DON'T NEED THIS 1992 MICROWAVE. IT DON'T EVEN SPIN. but it was a glorious work of human engineering. and i liked pizza rolls in it. pizza rolls in the oven are wack, and my new microwave as noted is SHIT.

SURE I COULD GET ANOTHER MICROWAVE

but i could just keep buying cheapo frozen pizzas too.

PancakeBrah 08-04-2017 07:47 PM

French bread pizzas top tier

Finnydot 08-04-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 619158)
French bread pizzas top tier

What if AI makes like the best pizza ever? I wanna try robot pizza.


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