The Heroin/Opiod drugs epidemic..
 

..how many of yall have family members and close friend who suffer or suffered from this and died because of an od?

Too much family and friends for me man. So many good people i know that fell victim to this and it changed them and ultimately killed them. This shit is real. So they are finally banning OPs or the new version of oxycontins. Doubt its gonna change anything. More folks are just gonna turn to Heroin cause they cant get there OPs.

And to be honest. OPs aint even been as big as perc 30s have since the oxies changed there formula anyway. So to me this isnt a cure this is just a reason for people to turn to harder street drugs and were gonna see way more deaths before this shit gets ANY better. SO GLAD IM OFF THAT SHIT MAN.fuck that

Literally all of my friends are fiends. It went from partying drinking doing blow fistfighting amd fingering goofy college hos to drinking and snorting pills to just trying to get pills and etc

They never did much for me.

In the long run things like this are good for humanity. The strong survive

But as far as dyong a chick i fucked twice who had impeccable tits died from it. Bunch of people i went to school with and vaguely knew. Like at least 5. Main homies are bad off and been that way for years now. My pops is hooked im sure but he has a script from pain management in relation to his shoulder injury so he takes 3 percs a day for years. Im wondering when theyre gonna ween him off the shit but it doesnt seem like anytime soon

But word ive done a ton of opiates and never understood the allure. I mean you get all comfy and extra drunk when drinking but i dunno. Id rather buy some weed or blow fuck i look like

Uplifting topic geno!

I can check in as being closely affected by this

I will say focusing unnecessary time and attention towards it is a waste though


So many good things in life people refuse to take time and appreciate.

It's truly sad and disgusting at the same time.

I think everyone has been or currently still affected by this.

I don't bother wasting my time or energy on the matter, tho.

I've learned to appreciate the small things in life.

ya, its fucked up once you get on a regular use basis it just consumes your whole mind and body and changes your personality. its the devil man, the devil.
its sad, cause i just lost a close friend who was my little brothers age from this, and then a month later his older brother who was my man did the same fucking thing. unbelievable man. they were both in NA and doing well and then Mike slipped and ODd and i guess it fucked his brother wayne up and the same shit. its the elephant tranq their cutting the shit with now. not even the fentynol. waayyyy more deaths since that shit switched up.

stay positive man. people are strong. hopefully one day more and more will wake up and make the decision to beat this monster. its hard though, especially the older you get. trust me. my demons are way stronger nowadays and harder to keep at bay but im fighting it. doing well the last two months. i mean i know i use my supplements and shit. but im no longer drinking and the kratom will be ending soon also. just 100% Geno again. its harder this go around. but fuck that shit

i mean i just this morning read something on FB about one of the cats i went to Highschool in philly with.. He was shooting up and either ODd or was nodded out and his young daughter got ahold of a needle that had shit in it and somehow injected herself. almost fucking died man. TRULY DISCGUSTING but sad as fuck to.

This thread angers me.

Id rather just do meth, can't get shit done while nodding off slobbering. That don't even seem fun

I used to enjoy codeine regularly, it was my favourite drug, still is but I don't take it any more. Never was addicted though, I'd use it for a few weeks, stop for a while, then start again. It was never something I felt I NEEDED...which I am glad for, I know people addicted to opiates and shit is scary.

That's all I have to share.

It's the warmth though...that's what did it for me. That warm feeling spreading through your body. Oh man.

Codiene is the weakest opiate there is. Although it's converted to morphine thru 1st pass metabolism in the liver, it still has a ceiling effect.. meaning in essence, it's garbage.

It's good u never got an addiction to it, or made u wanna try stronger opiates.

Cuz it did me.

Never try heroin.

Can we have the "Addiction is a disease" discussion.

People who havent struggled with it are the only ones to quickly say its not a disease.

It's definitely a disease. There is no argument.

Word that's why I stuck with it and probably why I was able to go off it for extended periods.

Are painkillers opiate? What about kolonopins or xanax? Ive done those and with the pains I get a warm sensation amd I become itchy. Lol xanax and kpinz make me forget and act like a jackass. Use to be an issue with pills but not anymore.

I never will. I have a feeling I'd enjoy it way too much.

Benzodiazepines. Not opiates.

I know. Because I suffered from addiction before. Definitely a disease, physically and mentally. Mine was more mental than anything.

It's fucking awful.

Alcoholism is bout just as bad too.

That's where I come in. Frfr

you know what im not bothered with opiates or drugs in general i mean i get it you have a problem you want to get high... thats fine whatever.... but what i dont like is how society deals with these people and the shit that they give them to "fix" their addiction by giving them antipsychotics even to people who dont even take opiates... that pisses me off... i dont really care ive tried coke ive done ecstacy and shit but ive never ever felt addicted to them although in all honesty ive never done heroin or perks or oc's er whatever but ive dont pretty much everything else from acid to coke to ecstacy to molly.... but ive never felt the urge to do them every single day in and out... anyways all im trying to say ive gone to doctors and psychiatrists and been put in the hospital for not feeling well er watever... and inside these institutions where they have patients and doctors and staff and shit and if you say anything like even remotely related to drugs at all they put you on this antipsychotic medication that is absolutely revolting its the worst pills your ever going to take in your life... basically puts people into a state of paralysis where you cant even move your body or feel your body... and they expect this shit to help people get off of drugs and it doesnt it just makes you feel like shit... like me i get put on some antipsychotic medication and i dont even know where to buy psychadelic shit on the street... psychadelic drugs.... thats what pisses me off... and in all honesty if i knew where to get a bag of heroin i dont know mate... maybe if drugs werent so expensive in the first place... i might even buy some heroin just to be like a fuck you to them fucking people who think oh drugs are bad and if you even mention anything about drugs im going to put you on antipsychotic medication that is going to put your body into a state of paralysis where you will be unable to control your body and eventually if you continue to take any type of drug whatsoever we're going to turn you into a retard literally eventually... eventually you will be half retarded.... now i aint never heard of some cocaine making a person half retarded you feel me? ahhh fuck!

Just smoke weed idiots

Dude.. 2trip.. doctors ain't putting ppl on antipsychotics to get off drugs. They're putting ppl on them bc they are mentally unstable.. drug addiction may be a symptom of that even tho it's a disease in itself.

I take 100mg Seroquel at night bc I have homicidal thoughts & dreams. I'm legit crazy & addiction has jack shit to do w/ that.

not when the medication your taking is being abused.. this is true for any drug including seroquel and pills that dont necessarily get you fucked up... but are being used in any case... and when they be giving you these pills they be fucking with the amount your taking in all of the cases... thats not cool... they're giving people incredible amounts of powerful medication (THAT DOES NOT EVEN FUCK YOU UP)... if you feel me... to the point that many of the patients could not withstand the amount of antipsychotic medication that you are being prescribed... (especially when most of the people who they are dispensing the medication to have never actually even known how to take actually psychadelic shit that you have find somehow but they dont know or in all honesty the psychadelic shit if you can find it isnt very cheap you feel me.... so what the fuck?? thats fucked up? i mean for instance i come from a very good family with a rich background... but even for me someone who is quite important er whatever... if i even say anything like that sounds crazy or strange... nah man sorry your wrong... stop abusing people/drugs/power/money/beliefs and shit... sorry man...

What in the entire fuck is u talking about bro?

Srs.

Lol it might be the codeine talking but dude cracks me up sometimes.

mate im talking about prisons or instituations where people who are pyschotic are often sent to... and psychotic and antipsychotic medication/drugs.....and how something needs to be done about this cause it aint cool the way it goes down...

word at seroquil. def an antipsychotic.
used/given or prescribed or whatever heavy in jails

and benzos such as xanax and clonzapin are not opiods, correct.
they are another monster entirely which can be a nightmare to get off if your heavy on them. dont know from experience. never enjoyed themthat much to use more than every so often, but i know folks that would wake up to a bowl of that shit for breakfast. not good.

alcoholism = also another monster. but aint getting into all that.
i just know this opiod shit has effected me and a lot of people ive loved or had good friendships with and am pretty sure its effected others here.

oh, and ya @Strikta, codeine - soft as fuck.

They say it's a disease. I say it's a mental problem. I'm not a doctor. But mental problems are illnesses none the less.

I strongly feel addiction occurs for those people whom are weak minded and lack will power and self control.

Opiate addiction typically starts off by those prescribed pain killers for a long period of time and then cut off and/or abuse their prescription to the point their dosage provided wasn't enough.

Either way, it's sad but at the same time disgusting watching someone turn in to a COMPLETELY different person.

Cheater, thief, delusional, pathological liar and bi-polar. I've seen it way to many times with friends... All dead.

Calanaspam and Xanax are benzos. Morphine is an opiode, Hydrocodone is an opiode.

haha yeah @Genocide for like saying something... a lot of people wont even really talk no more about this shit... i guess thats chill but yeah i dont know both sides dont really sound too enticing... its like @Destroyer said just smoke pot.... and like maybe like some coke but only really if you can afford it... life is too good i mean think about these things on a different level... like compare drugs to money for example i mean a kilo of cocaine costs what like 35,000 and you could probably get a pound of cocaine for like i dont know 45,000... i mean thats fucked up... ONE KILO = 30,000... i mean ive never even had 30,000 thats a lot of fucking money... and all your getting is 30 g's for it... thats fucked up... almost makes it feel not worth it... scary like... i mean an ounce of cocaine is like 1200 dollars... you feel me... damn man.... its a hard life and a hard subject.. because there a lot of people who do abuse these types of numbers really...

im of the camp that its not a disease

cancer is a disease

u wake up one day and boom

u don't just wake up and be addicted to dope ...the shit don't just jump in ur arm lol



not wanting to have this debate tho at all.....literally is this what the internet has become?

every1 wasting their lives having the same 5 arguments to infinity? lol unreal

i agree like i said a lot of people dont want to say much about this subject in general... i agree...its not something that poeple like to talk about... and dont get it... in reality..

stfu ill literally cum inside of u

yeah and like it you fucker...

banned cuz that got way too weird

take a week off

Smgdh.

Bags.

Lmfao.

LMAO shit spiraled out of control. quickly.

thats basically what i said without addressing morphine and hydrocodone.