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Certain 07-07-2016 01:54 AM

Fuck police.
 
In Minneapolis, this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDRSDvZxkPA

uh-oh 07-07-2016 06:27 AM

whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.

these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.

and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching

either way both could be proven to be excessive for sure

its just maddening because what course of action can actually be taken?

also i hate the fact my brain plays the contrarian constantly lol. but its like you see people on facebook and twitter, granted i havent seen anything about this one, just the alton sterling one, posting gun laws in louisiana like you don't need to be licensed/have a permit to own a gun, but they ignore the fact that the guy was a felon, so he isn't legally allowed to own one, permitted or not. then they blame the media like OH well why you putting his record out there!!! it doesn't matter he was murdered! and dumbass memes like man killed by police, police record put online, white man rapes girl, swimtimes put online. white kid didnt have a record lol wtf

but yea its all a shame. i have no answers to any of it. this one could clearly be way worse than the alton sterling one, because if even its remotely close to the story the woman is saying than thats a bad one, unavoidable by the person killed. he wouldve followed the letter of the law, letting the officer know he was licensed and it was on him etc, where as alton sterling may not have deserved to be shot, he was still a felon carrying a firearm which is illegal, and he was resisting arrest.

whats the answer to all this?

oats 07-07-2016 06:40 AM

@uh-oh that's a legitimate question, and I don't think anyone is under the illusion that there's a simple fix to police brutality. I'm by no means an expert, but one thing I've noticed is that the best interactions I've had with cops is when they are actually from the community they're policing. they have greater investment into the wellbeing of the populace than some war vet who gets placed at some random county and may or may not give two shits about the community. having more community outreach efforts in general wouldn't hurt, either. it's hard to see people as the enemy - which POs often do - when you actually know them (or people like them).

how to incentivize people to become police officers in their home towns is open to discussion and debate, but I think that's a really good start. word on the contrarian bit, though. I find myself despising a lot of people who share common values with me because of their social media emphasis on social injustices. like dude, blowing up my timeline with memes doesn't make you an activist.

oats 07-07-2016 06:41 AM

https://twitter.com/lizcollin/status/750931755004145666

Inno 07-07-2016 07:04 AM

ban white people from being cops


Ha!

Chill Phil 07-07-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 593169)
whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.

these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.

and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching

either way both could be proven to be excessive for sure

its just maddening because what course of action can actually be taken?

also i hate the fact my brain plays the contrarian constantly lol. but its like you see people on facebook and twitter, granted i havent seen anything about this one, just the alton sterling one, posting gun laws in louisiana like you don't need to be licensed/have a permit to own a gun, but they ignore the fact that the guy was a felon, so he isn't legally allowed to own one, permitted or not. then they blame the media like OH well why you putting his record out there!!! it doesn't matter he was murdered! and dumbass memes like man killed by police, police record put online, white man rapes girl, swimtimes put online. white kid didnt have a record lol wtf

but yea its all a shame. i have no answers to any of it. this one could clearly be way worse than the alton sterling one, because if even its remotely close to the story the woman is saying than thats a bad one, unavoidable by the person killed. he wouldve followed the letter of the law, letting the officer know he was licensed and it was on him etc, where as alton sterling may not have deserved to be shot, he was still a felon carrying a firearm which is illegal, and he was resisting arrest.

whats the answer to all this?

I saw the Alton Sterling videos, and like all the other videos, all I can see are the results of a reaction made by a person or persons who are terrified or greatly agitated. These cops are overreacting because they're scared/angry, and have held onto that fear or anger so long it finally erupted at the worst possible time. Of course those cops need to be tried for murder, as they would try me if I'd done what they did. But, what really REALLY needs to be done though, is getting a really massive amount of competent psychiatric doctors on-site at all police departments, and help these guys deal with their issues BEFORE they go viral for snapping and contributing to the Helter Skelter the media wants us to believe is occurring. We see soldiers and Marines come back from war...snap and then kill someone and/or themselves; something tells me a lot of cops are suffering from similar neurological conditions and because it's "just their job," they're not dealing with caustic dilemmas within them. Again...that was definitely murder, and though I don't understand why it happened, I do understand that there's probably a long list of reasons why, which was certainly years in the making.

Mike Wrecka 07-07-2016 10:47 AM

As a New Yorker the idea that regular people can legally carry guns on their waist is very foreign to me. Here you need a real legitimate reason like being a security guard or something along those lines. Ive actually never seen or heard of someone legally carrying a hand gun in public. I think people should have as many firearms as they want inside their home but once you bring them out into the community it's a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts

Certain 07-07-2016 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka (Post 593176)
As a New Yorker the idea that regular people can legally carry guns on their waist is very foreign to me. Here you need a real legitimate reason like being a security guard or something along those lines. Ive actually never seen or heard of someone legally carrying a hand gun in public. I think people should have as many firearms as they want inside their home but once you bring them out into the community it's a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts

Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.

Diode 07-07-2016 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka (Post 593176)
Dude wanted to live by the gun. He died by the gun. Facts

Daily reminder that you're a fucking moron.

Certain 07-07-2016 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 593169)
whats the solution though? because we need police. disarming them? it isn't really feasible here because our populace is armed.

these are fucked up, espescially when we don't know any of the facts. like in this case for sure, this is the first im seeing it. but it aint recording until he is already shot.

It speaks volumes that the policeman is clearly freaking out and not at all denying what the woman says. It's the voice of someone who realizes they made a mistake. Obviously, this is circumstantial. My guess is that when Philando Castile told the police officer that he was carrying, the police officer immediately pulled his gun and became worried. Even though Castile did exactly what he was expected to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 593169)
and the alton sterling one in both videos you don't see what led up to it, and you can't see if he is reaching

You actually do see exactly what happened before the shooting in the first video. Sterling was tasered, fell to the ground with two policemen holding guns on him and continued shaking ... because he was tasered.

Mike Wrecka 07-07-2016 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 593178)
Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.

Very difficult to get licensed concealed.

Amen 07-07-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 593178)
Licensed concealed carry is legal in New York.

It is, but a lot harder to obtain if you live in NYC (Any of the 5 Boroughs). Outside of the city, it isn't THAT hard to get.

State Police are even out of Jurisdiction in NYC and they are NYS/New York STATE Police!

Certain 07-07-2016 01:08 PM

@Diode, please ban Trademark.

Amen 07-07-2016 01:09 PM

snitch, early lol...

PancakeBrah 07-07-2016 01:30 PM

The store security cam footage of the Alton shooting is pretty damn conclusive. They murdered that man. No two ways about it.

Blanco Bishop 07-07-2016 02:40 PM

Honestly whats more concerning is that this broad is relatively non chalant about the whole thing. She's more concerned with taking the video then actually getting her man medical aid.

Chyeahhh!!! 07-07-2016 02:49 PM

dude she recorded everything and could not tend to him because there was a weapon in the car and had she moved she could have been deemed a threat and could have been fired upon, that's why she remained super calm. Cop was shaking and shit, he was distraught. she was smart

Certain 07-07-2016 02:54 PM

Not often that we get to say this, but Chyeahhh!!! is correct.

Split Eight 07-07-2016 02:57 PM

I swear to god if I see one more #BlueLivesMatter post I'm going to fling my car into a ravine

oats 07-07-2016 03:38 PM

Fair warning, I'm drunk. But

I find it hilarious in the "I don't know what else to do so I laugh" kind of way that the same people sayin fuck the FBI and the justice department cuz of Hillary's emails are adamantly condemning people who say fuck cops for killing civilians. What a world, man. but rest assured there are always those who are eager to defend the empowered and speak up for those whose voices echo through loudspeakers. I hate Facebook, all it does is reveal to me the people in my life who subscribe to a worldview that I find repulsive and idiotic. Anyway I'm gonna go to bed and wake up to watch people punch each other. It's a fitting distraction and somehow it helps.

Ghost1 07-07-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 593196)
Fair warning, I'm drunk. But

I find it hilarious in the "I don't know what else to do so I laugh" kind of way that the same people sayin fuck the FBI and the justice department cuz of Hillary's emails are adamantly condemning people who say fuck cops for killing civilians. What a world, man. but rest assured there are always those who are eager to defend the empowered and speak up for those whose voices echo through loudspeakers. I hate Facebook, all it does is reveal to me the people in my life who subscribe to a worldview that I find repulsive and idiotic. Anyway I'm gonna go to bed and wake up to watch people punch each other. It's a fitting distraction and somehow it helps.

Hey u little bitch did u write my fucking text battler article? I shit that pm out on 3 hrs sleep. Show sum class oatmeal. For crying out loud.

oats 07-07-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 593203)
Hey u little bitch did u write my fucking text battler article? I shit that pm out on 3 hrs sleep. Show sum class oatmeal. For crying out loud.

@dead man

I'm planning on writing it while on vacation next week.

PancakeBrah 07-07-2016 11:18 PM

Two police shot at BLM protest in Dallas.

big baby 07-07-2016 11:36 PM

y were they in dull boy

uh-oh 07-08-2016 03:26 AM

5 cops dead. not sure if its still going on or not.

fuck police though, right ?

black people on facebook hashtagging "blackmilitia" and fist emoji's

smh

Witty 07-08-2016 06:04 AM

It was always going to get to this point...RIP to the cops killed.

It was to be expected, policing will never work while the community are afraid of the police and the police are afraid of the community...you need people from within those communities to police them...people who are known and trusted by both law enforcement and civilians...until a point is reached when members of the community no longer feel opressed rather than protected this problem will only get worse.

Just an outsiders perspective.

~RustyGunZ~ 07-08-2016 06:39 AM

Blm are a bunch of thugs making things worse for black lives

Certain 07-08-2016 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 593216)
5 cops dead. not sure if its still going on or not.

fuck police though, right ?

black people on facebook hashtagging "blackmilitia" and fist emoji's

smh

Hey, I don't like anyone who kills people. It just so happens that police officers kill a whole lot more people than snipers.

Fuck snipers, too, though.

TYSON 07-08-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingslayer K (Post 593220)
Blm are a bunch of thugs making things worse for black lives

Blm has been working hand and hand with the police of Dallas. This was not a blm shooting this was a more extreme group looking to use a protest as a ambush. This shot is getting out of hand. All my family is out there and I don't know what they are going to be wrapped up in in the later days because of anger and confusion.

~RustyGunZ~ 07-08-2016 08:19 AM

Keep telling yourself that

There are always good and bad people in every movement but as a whole blm is looking like the new Nazis

TYSON 07-08-2016 08:23 AM

And the cops that's freely killing unarmed men ain't? If you gonna give your opinion be sure to be able to see all sides of the spectrum

veritas 07-08-2016 08:24 AM

I have much to say about this.

Wake up.

TYSON 07-08-2016 08:25 AM

im not an activist but to sit and point your finger at one extreme of the situation and not the other is bigotry

veritas 07-08-2016 08:29 AM

The murdering cops as well as the cop murderers are part of the grand evil design. Eventually it would come down to the chicken and egg scenario we have now which causes cognitive dissonance which makes us easier to control.

Furthermore, this will also enflame the racial divide gUn control and militarized police/martial law agendas.

Wake up. Love good people hate evil ones. Regardless of their color.

I have much to say about this.

veritas 07-08-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYSON (Post 593226)
im not an activist but to sit and point your finger at one extreme of the situation and not the other is bigotry

I was not Tyson. Unless this wasn't for me.

TYSON 07-08-2016 08:31 AM

All of it is fucking ridiculous!

TYSON 07-08-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 593228)
I was not Tyson. Unless this wasn't for me.

Not you. You are good bro

veritas 07-08-2016 08:37 AM

Fe sir.

We need to see the big picture here. The *sniper* who killed himself said *the end is near*.

This is all part of the plan to enslave us.

Wake up.

TYSON 07-08-2016 09:11 AM

He said he was acting alone but I doubt it. Just so we clear I do not support killing of cops. If you gonna kill a cop why not go after the ones who are actually guilty of killing unarmed black men stop being stupid and grouping together the actions of a few to justify killing innocent cops. That's the big problem that is going on in a America. Everybody is going off the actions of a few to fuel their outlook of the majority. That's blacks, whites, Latinos, cops and even people of the Muslim faith. That's the real problem because it fuels this type of behavior.

~RustyGunZ~ 07-08-2016 09:13 AM

There are bad cops

There are bad black people

No group of good people should be killed because of bad people that align with their belief/race/occupation


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