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uh-oh 05-03-2016 11:25 PM

Politics!
 
lol

So its looking for sure to be trump and clinton now.

Shame on america.

Anyone wanna place early bets?

Also why dont libertarians get any support? If all the bernie people said fuck hilary and the intelligent republicans said fuck trump do you think a 3rd party guy like gary johnson could become sortve relevant?

Certain 05-03-2016 11:28 PM

Why would Bernie Sanders supporters vote for a Libertarian?

~RustyGunZ~ 05-03-2016 11:28 PM

I'll be voting for Gary Johnson

uh-oh 05-03-2016 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 583471)
Why would Bernie Sanders supporters vote for a Libertarian?

Because they are millenial buffoons who dont know what to believe in the first place?

Certain 05-03-2016 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 583474)
Because they are millenial buffoons who dont know what to believe in the first place?

That's ... actually a cogent point.

I'm just a socialist, outright. That's why I was fine with Bernie Sanders (a bad candidate for the cause, all things considered, but at least I agreed with his general views) and why I dislike Libertarians almost as much as outrage Republicans and the Religious Right.

~RustyGunZ~ 05-03-2016 11:46 PM

lol socialist

so you believe in fairytales

NYCSPITZ 05-03-2016 11:55 PM

yo uh-oh is a mad genius.

Millenials young ass, 15-30 years of experience in this timeless universe ass niggas... are feeling FAKE STRONG right now TBH. Bernie sander: WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT ALL CHANGE EVERYTHING ARAGHRGAHRGAH ****HEART ATTACK****

Dude would die in year 2 anyways. He's too old and the oligarchy wouldn't have it. People I worked with in my last job liked him but they were idealistic, naive and most of them were retards and liars. Bernie Sanders presidency only occurs in 1 out of 10,000 parallel universes. It's gonna be Hillary, first we have like 1,000,234,231,324 white preisdents, then a black one, and now a female...my only question is, why you going black, female after all this white shit? Tryna take attention off WHAT, BRO? Like, wars and foreign policy and civil rights and shit like that MY NIGGA. Fuck outta here son u ain't fooling NYC yo. Shit's FISHY is what it is but still would rather be in America than a 3rd world country or even a 2nd world country even moscow if you know russian and you're rich also china. Best thing is to be a global citizen with the ability to travel anywhere you want. And NEVER piss off multi-national corporations and don't travel to excessively reckless, and militant countries.

Sharp 05-04-2016 12:08 AM

I don't think knuck knows anything about most political structures except that he HATE them

But word uhoh. I'm actually hoping this election cycle starts giving rise to more 3rd party candidates, not in a tea party way. Democratic socialist and libertarian could definitely start scoring a few congressional seats in the right districts, problem is the two big parties have gerrymandered so much that there are a ton of near guaranteed red/blue out there now

Gotta believe though

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 12:21 AM

I know everything about politics Sharp

You must disagree with me if that's your response and I'm upset you're one of those people

It's all a lie anyway

uh-oh legit the realest dude on NC when talm bout politics

Certain 05-04-2016 12:22 AM

There's no reason for both parties to break up simultaneously. If one breaks, the other will have an increased incentive to avoid a break. It appears the Republicans are much closer to a fracture, but even though they have three distinct groups in their party (the outraged, the fiscal conservatives and the religious right), they stick together because falling apart would guarantee liberal rule that none of those groups wants.

Diode 05-04-2016 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 583487)
I know everything about politics Sharp

You must disagree with me if that's your response and I'm upset you're one of those people

It's all a lie anyway

uh-oh legit the realest dude on NC when talm bout politics

Yeah definitely not the people with degrees in the subject

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 02:20 AM

This is why I don't dive into political conversations

Everyone is an expert to their bias

But all I'm gonna say is if you're speaking on yourself you'd be in the political world if you were that involved and knowledgeable but you sell software on commission so I'll take it that degree is just kinnnddd of relevant or a throw away social studies dealio

boof 05-04-2016 03:06 AM

what the fuck are you guys talking about

hillary can't win the nomination unless she wins 80% of the rest of the votes, which is impossible since cali is split right now

it's going to be a contested convention in philly, that's basically a guarentee at this point, and if bernie wins as big in cali as momentum seems to show, he might go in neck and neck with pledged delegates

hillary is being exposed for a multitude of illegal action more and more each day, and can literally be indicted by the fbi at any turn, the only thing keeping her in this position of seeming to have the nomination locked up is the constant biased, paid for coverage all over television

still, after
-admitted fraud in arizona,
-the debacle in new york,
-registration purges,
-countless reports of disenfranchisement,
-illegal actions at polling places in philadelphia,
-bought out superdelegates,
-false reports of bernie dropping out through mail & phone banking
-hillary funneling campaign money through state parties to exceed the allowed amount of contributions x130
-not to mention the ridiculous facebook group child pornography shit

he's still only down by 200 delegates, and has been closing the gap since early March

plus, cruz just dropped out which helps sanders even more


so....

we're fine

boof 05-04-2016 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 583488)
It appears the Republicans are much closer to a fracture,

why do you think this?

oats 05-04-2016 03:12 AM

@Knucklehead I worked for a republican governor and a democratic representative for several years, decided I don't want to work in politics for numerous reasons. what someone does for a living has no bearing on other areas of knowledge. people here aren't recording artists or professional MCs, and they know a ton about hip hop. don't make stupid arguments; your first one (everyone is an expert of their own biases) was actually a good one.

uh-oh 05-04-2016 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 583475)
That's ... actually a cogent point.

I'm just a socialist, outright. That's why I was fine with Bernie Sanders (a bad candidate for the cause, all things considered, but at least I agreed with his general views) and why I dislike Libertarians almost as much as outrage Republicans and the Religious Right.

i hear you. if i was to put myself in a party it would be libertarian but i don't like putting a name on my views. but they kindve align with libertarianISM

their are "social libertarians" too. basically all the same ideals, minimal government, state rights, free market free will blah blah, but without the whole dissolving of social programs stuff.

uh-oh 05-04-2016 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 583510)
@Knucklehead I worked for a republican governor and a democratic representative for several years, decided I don't want to work in politics for numerous reasons. what someone does for a living has no bearing on other areas of knowledge. people here aren't recording artists or professional MCs, and they know a ton about hip hop. don't make stupid arguments; your first one (everyone is an expert of their own biases) was actually a good one.

his point i don't think was that i was more knowledgable on the ins and outs of the political system, but more im honest and open with my opinion in reference to politics. i'll never claim to be more knowledgable than diode for instance.

but the difference is i engage in the discussions while he'll drop a big word like keynesian that i have to google to even know what he means lol. but thats if he engages at all. most the time it will be him just criticizing some irrelevant point like in this thread.

not to go at diode though. switch his name out with any of the political "snobs" for lack of a better word.

uh-oh 05-04-2016 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boof (Post 583508)
what the fuck are you guys talking about

hillary can't win the nomination unless she wins 80% of the rest of the votes, which is impossible since cali is split right now

it's going to be a contested convention in philly, that's basically a guarentee at this point, and if bernie wins as big in cali as momentum seems to show, he might go in neck and neck with pledged delegates

hillary is being exposed for a multitude of illegal action more and more each day, and can literally be indicted by the fbi at any turn, the only thing keeping her in this position of seeming to have the nomination locked up is the constant biased, paid for coverage all over television

still, after
-admitted fraud in arizona,
-the debacle in new york,
-registration purges,
-countless reports of disenfranchisement,
-illegal actions at polling places in philadelphia,
-bought out superdelegates,
-false reports of bernie dropping out through mail & phone banking
-hillary funneling campaign money through state parties to exceed the allowed amount of contributions x130
-not to mention the ridiculous facebook group child pornography shit

he's still only down by 200 delegates, and has been closing the gap since early March

plus, cruz just dropped out which helps sanders even more


so....

we're fine

i hate hillary alot. i believe she is a criminal. i believe she should be indicted and thrown in prison.

but all that aside she is trouncing sanders bro. didnt he switch his campaign to basically try and shift democratic thinking since him getting the nomination is basically impossible? like, he ain't gonna be president so at least he can try and use his movement to get the party to be more radical towards his ideaology?

the super delegates ain't shifting to bernie. what does she need? like 100 more delegates basically to get to the 2300 something?

i havent been following the democratic side much so maybe i'm completely wrong. but just naming all that shit doesn't change what has happened lol. whats the child porn thing?

Ghost1 05-04-2016 06:36 AM

Politics is WWE for adults

Fuck this shit

An fuck u uh oh.

uh-oh 05-04-2016 06:39 AM

HEY FUCK YOU

WHAT ARE YOU A CHILD

BOOM GOT EM

GO POST A WRESTLING REACTION GIF NERD

Ghost1 05-04-2016 06:46 AM

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uh-oh 05-04-2016 06:55 AM

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oats 05-04-2016 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 583502)
This is why I don't dive into political conversations

Everyone is an expert to their bias

But all I'm gonna say is if you're speaking on yourself you'd be in the political world if you were that involved and knowledgeable but you sell software on commission so I'll take it that degree is just kinnnddd of relevant or a throw away social studies dealio

@uh-oh this is what I was referencing. I actually do appreciate your honesty on political matters, even though I don't agree with them lol.

Certain 05-04-2016 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boof (Post 583509)
why do you think this?

The bulk of the party's brass hating its presidential nominee is a good place to start. As a whole, though, the Tea Party and outrage factions have very different values from the Religious Right that carried George W. Bush. The Religious Right is shrinking, but it's still important.

Aero 05-04-2016 09:25 AM

At the end of the day you all will still be eating Fritos & jagging yourselves to sleep no matter who wins, nothing changes. If you guys want to affect change then be a person of value.

Batty 05-04-2016 09:42 AM

http://media.tumblr.com/857948e6ef77...UaY1qe5z9i.gif


It's not politics, it's fanboyism.

The Republican party is full of RINOs.

(Republicans in name only)


You can't even try to take any of this shit seriously.

Millennials are idiots, agreed, but also old folks are fucking dumb too for buying into the propaganda, especially when it comes to Trump...

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...

TAKE THINGS BACK TO THE REAGAN DAYS...

Ronald Reagan was saying TEAR DOWN THAT WALL and Trump is saying BUILD THAT WALL lolololololol


Hilary Clinton is a cunt.

veritas 05-04-2016 09:59 AM

http://giphy.com/gifs/breakdancing-vince-7WsfN5MyWrXoY

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 583510)
@Knucklehead I worked for a republican governor and a democratic representative for several years, decided I don't want to work in politics for numerous reasons. what someone does for a living has no bearing on other areas of knowledge. people here aren't recording artists or professional MCs, and they know a ton about hip hop. don't make stupid arguments; your first one (everyone is an expert of their own biases) was actually a good one.


And now that you're not I'd imagine you're no more privy to CURRENT political trends than anyone with an Internet connection.

Everything changes every year. Science, pop culture, politics.. if you're not involved directly now than your pipeline is the same as car mechanic uh oh

But honestly I respect your opinion because you are always respectful of people as much as you can be and aren't an elitist about every opinion you have.

I stick by my statement in regards to Diode. No way he was ever involved with more than volunteering.

Diode 05-04-2016 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 583502)
This is why I don't dive into political conversations

Everyone is an expert to their bias

But all I'm gonna say is if you're speaking on yourself you'd be in the political world if you were that involved and knowledgeable but you sell software on commission so I'll take it that degree is just kinnnddd of relevant or a throw away social studies dealio

no, shitbird, the tenure track to professorship in the united states is comoletely fucked and untenable if you want to live in something other than a shoebox for the next 30 years. i sought to find financial security before returning back to academia.

ask stupid questions, win stupid prizes.

Diode 05-04-2016 10:49 AM

oh, the elitist argument. i love that one.

me and my fancy book-learnin, what do i know?

Diode 05-04-2016 10:52 AM

also, batty, RINO was traditionally a derogatory term for left-leaning republicans to deride them for running under the R to win elections despite their less-conservative principles. it's funny that it now gets tacked onto neocons and teapots alike... and whatever you want to call the virulent, racist, homo/trans/everythingphobic old white people and flyover country yokels that have taken over the party these days.

fuck dick nixon and fuck ronnie raygun for setting the path and fuck the kochs, cheneys, adelsons, murdochs, et. al. of the world for letting it come to this.

Diode 05-04-2016 10:53 AM

AND A MOTHERFUCKING QUAD-POST TO POINT OUT KNUCK'S ARGUMENT IS BASICALLY "DIODE IS MEAN TO ME, SO HE'S A FRAUD, BUT YOU'RE NICE OATY, SO RESPEKK KNUCKLES"

grow up.

Sharp 05-04-2016 10:54 AM

I agree with you on the party lines to an extent @Certain

But between Reagan Democrats and quasi tea party anti establishment Republicans not wanting to align with the base I really think this could be the time for a few independents to sneak into local and national representative bodies

Though now that you're making me think of it both would probably just be as Republicans and do what you said. Saw some poll that had millennial democratic socialists against higher taxes on themselves btw... Lol



When I started this post there was 1 diode post above me

Damn

Tbh knuck you gotta update your political arguments, it ain't college any more

boof 05-04-2016 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 583521)
i hate hillary alot. i believe she is a criminal. i believe she should be indicted and thrown in prison.

but all that aside she is trouncing sanders bro. didnt he switch his campaign to basically try and shift democratic thinking since him getting the nomination is basically impossible? like, he ain't gonna be president so at least he can try and use his movement to get the party to be more radical towards his ideaology?

the super delegates ain't shifting to bernie. what does she need? like 100 more delegates basically to get to the 2300 something?

i havent been following the democratic side much so maybe i'm completely wrong. but just naming all that shit doesn't change what has happened lol. whats the child porn thing

Like I said he's only down 200 with 1000 still up for grabs. What he's doing is pushing hillary more to the left, not because him winning is impossible, but more so because as a Democrat, she was very centered if not right leaning in the beginning of her campaign, and he's genuinely all about progress by any means

Everyday a new super delegate says they will switch to Bernie at the convention.

And she has less than 1700 pledged delegates, so she still needs 600+

A bunch of fb trolls posted child pornography to 8 of the biggest sanders support groups, then reported it, and got the entire groups removed, the day before the most recent super Tuesday. Reportedly hillarys camp payed out $1 million total for them to do this

boof 05-04-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 583539)
The bulk of the party's brass hating its presidential nominee is a good place to start. As a whole, though, the Tea Party and outrage factions have very different values from the Religious Right that carried George W. Bush. The Religious Right is shrinking, but it's still important.

And what about the 10 million democratic voters ready to join a 3rd party if bernie loses because of the awful job the dnc has done in maintaining an equal opportunity primary?

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 11:12 AM

God forbid someone says Diode is wrong at all

So easy to get people heated in political threads

@Sharp nah I'm good. These aren't argument they're just observations. Like I said arguing about politics is pointless. TALKING about politics is worthwhile but no one here is trying to have an intelligent conversation unless it aligns with their views. BE DAMNED IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE!!

Fuck this country

@Diode fucking gone @ book learnin. Why don't YOU grow up you fucking nitwit cry baby. I ain't neva read no booksises at my Ivy league university. Sry smart man shittt..

Diode 05-04-2016 11:14 AM

so redirect and ad hom rather than refute point.

you called in the elitist nonsense, genius.

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 11:16 AM

What do you want me to say? You literally just whined.. I'm not sure how I respond to that intelligently?

Say something of substance and I'll respond to it. Tell me how what I originally said was so terrible.

Diode 05-04-2016 11:18 AM

.. i already did. you're debating at a Trump level right now. you're a perfect fit. there needs to be a word for "feigning ignorance but you actually are ignorant" - i bet the germanic languages have one.


on to the next thread.

~RustyGunZ~ 05-04-2016 11:20 AM

Lmao quote what you consider you responding to it intelligently

Might have skimmed past it


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