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Witty 03-30-2016 10:16 PM

Ok, Witty is once again testing your patience with another dumb question.
 
SSLP vs MMLP vs The Eminem show.

And please explain.

Witty 03-30-2016 10:17 PM

Btw, I choose, in this order

MMLP
EMINEM SHOW
SSLP

Mr. J 03-30-2016 10:20 PM

Devils Night

Witty 03-30-2016 10:23 PM

MMLP was an unstoppable force, I remember we used to hide in the woods cuz our parents didn't get it...but from 'When I was just a little boy, my momma used to tell me these crazy things' I was hooked.

Just the tone, the charisma, it was mind blowing and different.

Adonis 03-30-2016 10:38 PM

It's called the twenty second century Witty, we're all waiting for you over here

Certain 03-30-2016 11:32 PM

1. The Slim Shady LP
2. The Marshall Mathers LP
3. The Eminem Show

The reason is because I'm not a fan of Eminem's shtick, the one that has grown over the years. I don't like his screaming. I don't like his redundancies. He is an amazing talent, and he used it to make himself arguably the most important (note: not best) rapper ever (note: importance going beyond rap culture). But the further he pushed his own personality beyond the standards of rap, the less I liked him.

"Rock Bottom" and "Brain Damage" are my favorite Eminem. But that version was only going to be able to last for a little while. He built himself into a megastar, the highest-selling rapper ever by eight miles. That's great and smart, but I never liked his music more than his first full album.

Useless 03-31-2016 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witty (Post 576056)
MMLP
EMINEM SHOW
SSLP

I agree with this

~RustyGunZ~ 03-31-2016 02:07 AM

i don't like any of them

it's all cheesy

oats 03-31-2016 02:55 AM

my list of favorite between those vs. which is the BEST is different. Personally, Eminem Show is my favorite even though I think it's demonstrably the worst of those 3 (IE has the most not-good songs), but the peaks he hits on that album are among my favorite moments in all of rap. After that I like SSLP and MMLP in that order, mostly because the anger and acidity of MMLP does not resonate with me like it did in middle school lol.

but in terms of his greatest albums, I'd flip it around. I think MMLP was a massive album in every way and deserves recognition as his best album, with SSLP coming in after as an excellent album that lacks the breakout tracks of MMLP, and Eminem Show is too long and has several skip-worthy tracks.

I think me and Wise Ways are in the minority in thinking that Relapse is right behind those 3 albums, above Encore, Recovery and MMLP2.

Greed 03-31-2016 04:09 AM

Mmlp
Sslp
Show

Actually show wasnt that bad now that i think of it.

Ghost1 03-31-2016 06:48 AM

It's funny cuz show was my least fav at the time.....but running it back now it's so fucking good.....

For me I'd go

Sslp
Show
Mmlp



Sslp was the rawest most uncut hungry yet still polished enuff to cut a mainstream album that we could ever get from him. The perfect storm. Mmlp for a long time would've been my 2nd on the list but the older I get the more em show grows on me. It's just more intricate and deep in comparison imo. Granted it has sum horrible shit on it....like sum of his garbage ass beats an sum terrible hooks....but the shit that does bang bangs eternal.

uh-oh 03-31-2016 07:43 AM

Sslp
Mmlp
Emshow

With a huge gap between mm and emshow.

All had corny shit but sslp had boom bap thuggery. Mmlp had more early 00s type production which is cool but alot of it was whatever to me.

Infinite is still better than all of them. I know its the corny stance to take. But its the correct one.

Goodbye

Ghost1 03-31-2016 08:01 AM

Infinite is fuckin Boo boo

Certain 03-31-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 576101)
SSLP coming in after as an excellent album that lacks the breakout tracks of MMLP

"My Name Is," "Guilty Conscience" and "Role Model" don't count?

Inno 03-31-2016 03:11 PM

Infinite is EM at his finest.

No bullshit pop singer lyrics or overly done mom
References.

It's EM, proof, and bars.

SSLP far second.

MMLP he was at the height of that corny shit

Ghost1 03-31-2016 03:28 PM

Man he has no style in infinite

Every song sounds identical

An his flow an bars are garbage

Wtf r we even talking about?

Inno 03-31-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 576212)
Man he has no style in infinite

Every song sounds identical

An his flow an bars are garbage

Wtf r we even talking about?

Dunno man I love that cd

And you probably right that all the songs sounds alike.

But I just dig the raw aspect of it.

Just my personal opinion. I personally only like rock bottom, guilty conscience and brain damage on SSLP.


Edit: and mushrooms girl

Where's Dave at before I bash you....i dunno I think he's taking a crap dude.

Those multiples tho.

Ghost1 03-31-2016 04:02 PM

Man the only song I'd even consider skipping on sslp is 97 bonnie an clyde......an only just cuz I've heard it a million times an it's kindve slow. I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

Inno 03-31-2016 04:11 PM

Lmao. I that's song.

The other day that shit came on am I'm like.

Yo I wonder what haily thinks about this song.

Ghost1 03-31-2016 04:57 PM

Lmao yo Hailey bad bruh

Mr. J 03-31-2016 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 576205)
Infinite is EM at his finest.

No bullshit pop singer lyrics or overly done mom
References.

It's EM, proof, and bars.

SSLP far second.

MMLP he was at the height of that corny shit

This....1000x this

Inno 03-31-2016 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 576234)
Lmao yo Hailey bad bruh

http://img.wennermedia.com/social/14...thers-zoom.jpg

Nuggah what.

that's like fine china

uh-oh 03-31-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 576212)
Man he has no style in infinite

Every song sounds identical

An his flow an bars are garbage

Wtf r we even talking about?

Obviously trolling. I see now.

Ghost1 03-31-2016 07:32 PM

Lol now I'm in bizarro world

Oh but hey while ur here with ur selectively odd tastes

U never listened to blu an exile?

Exile beats seem like something u'd be hype about. Never heard u mention them tho

uh-oh 03-31-2016 07:37 PM

I checked the one album everyone was hype about years ago and liked some of it. Above the clouds? Does that sound like a thing lol? I remember liking a few but it was just a random record in the rotation not a classic like others were praising it at the time

Ghost1 03-31-2016 07:47 PM

Below the heavens*

Word it's dope

Classic is prolly pushing it tho, agree

oats 03-31-2016 08:56 PM

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oats 03-31-2016 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 576155)
"My Name Is," "Guilty Conscience" and "Role Model" don't count?

I feel like those were all overshadowed by Real Slim Shady, Stan and Way I Am tbh.


I like SSLP more, but MMLP was a phenomenon.

And Infinite was not a good album, idk why anyone insists on putting it in the conversation.

Destroyer 03-31-2016 09:08 PM

I put MMLP at #1 just for the title track
it's too dope

Certain 03-31-2016 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 576282)
I feel like those were all overshadowed by Real Slim Shady, Stan and Way I Am tbh.


I like SSLP more, but MMLP was a phenomenon.

And Infinite was not a good album, idk why anyone insists on putting it in the conversation.

Anyone who likes "The Real Slim Shady" more than "My Name Is" ...

oats 04-01-2016 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 576282)
I like SSLP more, but MMLP was a phenomenon.

Also applies to those songs individually. So yeah, I agree.

Certain 04-01-2016 01:03 AM

Nah, "My Name Is" was the phenomenon. Everything else was the gathering moss, with the exceptions of "Stan" and "Lose Yourself," which are the two singles that pushed him into new ears.

Mr. J 04-01-2016 01:15 AM

Relapse is probably the only album I can listen to without having to skip anything tbh...


aside from Drug Ballad, Stan & Remember Me I cant get into MMLP like I used to

loved a majority of Em Show because he actually tried stepping away from focusing on Pop acts

My Fault is probably the most memorable track for me from SSLP

oats 04-01-2016 02:12 AM

I don't know, I feel like My Name Is got his leg in the door of a mainstream audience, but Real Slim Shady blew up the house. Even if it didn't bring a substantial new audience (which I don't think is true), it validated and catapulted his stardom.

Mr. J 04-01-2016 02:15 AM

I always thought Forgot About Dre was what put him onto everyone else...



but Im from the West Coast so idk people still tryna get hyphy & shit talking about Tech N9ne waiting for that new E40 dressing in bell bottoms tryna rap like they on syrup while listening to Gin & Juice talking about going dumb and other shit...stupid...

MMLP 04-01-2016 05:13 AM

hmmmm dunno what my fave would be.... ;)


The Eminem Show grabs second spot imho, to keep up that momentum, with all the expectation built around his elevated fame and huge success, he quite simply delivered! Even the novelty sounding songs were well structured and witty!

dull boy 04-01-2016 12:40 PM

SSLP feels dated. Like a 90s styled version of a funnier early Earl Sweatshirt. Maybe it's because the style became so copied. Maybe because the style and album became almost taboo to like. It was a more polished Infinite Em with a persona that seemed to take the restraints off of his personality. A younger me loved SSLP and when The Eminem Show dropped I remember thinking he was trending towards a more gangster image, which I associated with the mainstream rap I had condemned for the most part. The ability was still there. The humor. Even the subject matter, but it was all tinted with a more serious persona that I didn't vibe with quiet as much. Relapse felt like a more mature version of SSLP and I laugh at the hilarity of it the same way I laugh reading A Clockwork Orange. His G-Unit/Obie Trice/Source beef years were my least favorite overall, but there's still enjoyable verses sprinkled about that period from him.

MMLP I feel like I've listened to too many times to even rate. It's like that shitty movie you watched 100 times as a kid that you should hate as an adult, but can't get past the nostalgia to accurately judge. Not saying it's shitty, only that I can't rate it accurately. Stan is like some ancient Beatles song you've grown up hearing in elevators, department store speakers and countless car rides. It's too iconic to even listen to normally or as its own track, almost. I feel like the concepts and execution on MMLP were a combination of the height of his ability and just coming off the height of his hunger as an artist. Realizing he had made it, but feverishly working to seize the opportunity.

'Kim' as a first listen song was insane.

2tripple0 04-01-2016 01:07 PM

Lmao nothing gets by you does it like I have never even half heartedly heard any reason not to think the effort made by Eminem to go ahead and record something bigger or more recent that would be quote unquote: dope and hilarious as fuck

dull boy 04-01-2016 01:23 PM

I have never

even half heartedly heard

any reason not to think the effort made by Eminem

to go ahead and record something bigger

or more recent

that would be quote unquote dope and hilarious as fuck



What?

2tripple0 04-01-2016 02:05 PM

Unquestionably vindicating this page

fell on my knees
And started to prey

The integration of his pain
Finds my text a bit personal
So I soaked u like cloth
But u broke as a joke and your friends are losers
Ya got mad and gave me a Phrenetic dissonance to his structurr


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