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jilti 12-20-2015 01:38 AM

Bags should not be in the hof
 
Jeff Bagwell is likely to make the mlb hall of fame one day. This disturbs me. Not saying he isn't good, its just that only certain players should make it in. For instance, no one would put Babe Ruth and Jeff Bagwell in the same sentence. Hof should be for the elite of the elite, not very good players. Just my opinion

Certain 12-20-2015 01:57 AM

Jeff Bagwell was the best first baseman in the majors over the span of 1993-2004. He has a career slash line of .297/.408/.540/.948. He won an MVP and finished second for another and third for another. He had elite-tier five-year, three-year and one-year peaks. He rates out as a Hall of Famer by four of the five statistics Baseball-Reference uses. JAWS ranks him as the sixth-greatest first baseman ever.

Bad thread.

Allen Knight 12-20-2015 02:41 AM

sonned.

jilti 12-20-2015 02:47 AM

Yes anyone who is up for the hof has to be accomplished to even make the ballot, but he is not the elite of the elite. Just my opinion
Under .300 batting average for his career? 1st baseman is the least athletic position on the field of a "stand still" sport to begin with

Certain 12-20-2015 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jilti (Post 557914)
Yes anyone who is up for the hof has to be accomplished to even make the ballot, but he is not the elite of the elite. Just my opinion
Under .300 batting average for his career? 1st baseman is the least athletic position on the field of a "stand still" sport to begin with

OK, so we’re kicking Willie McCovey, Eddie Murray, Harmon Killebrew, Orlando Cepeda and Tony Perez out of the Hall and definitely not letting Jim Thome in.

Meth 12-20-2015 03:21 AM

Jilti is retarded

Cool

jilti 12-20-2015 04:23 AM

Tony Perez: Perez is already widely acknowledged as a great player but weak Hall of Fame choice. wWAR does nothing to change that. While 50.5 WAR (66.8 wWAR) is a nice total, it is not Hall-worthy.
Orlando Cepeda: Like Perez, Cepeda was certainly a good player. His 46.8 WAR and 61.1 wWAR just doesn't stack up to other Hall-worthy first basemen.


Got this from beyondtheboxscore.com

oats 12-20-2015 04:42 AM

Does Jeff bagwell have any tournament wins? Was he a topical player or more of a battler?

jilti 12-20-2015 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 557919)
Does Jeff bagwell have any tournament wins? Was he a topical player or more of a battler?

Lol btw i wanna see Connor vs Pettis

oats 12-20-2015 04:56 AM

Same. It's possible, though I doubt it would be for the LW belt, which Conor might be more interested in. Not while RDA has it thought. He and Khabib are the worst stylistic match ups for Conor imaginable.

Ghost1 12-20-2015 08:17 AM

Get off my dick Herpy ridden fagot

Jeff bbaggot can suck ur Herpy riddled dick too u lonely fuckin weirdo

Inno 12-20-2015 10:10 AM

This nigga said orlando cepeda should t be in the HOF

Geno 12-20-2015 12:07 PM

Whatz mlb?

Strikta 12-20-2015 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 557912)
Jeff Bagwell was the best first baseman in the majors over the span of 1993-2004. He has a career slash line of .297/.408/.540/.948. He won an MVP and finished second for another and third for another. He had elite-tier five-year, three-year and one-year peaks. He rates out as a Hall of Famer by four of the five statistics Baseball-Reference uses. JAWS ranks him as the sixth-greatest first baseman ever.

Bad thread.

Dead.

Ain't even gotta read past this post.

ill nik-A 12-20-2015 02:00 PM

Lol wow

veritas 12-20-2015 06:44 PM

Certain with the ether tbh

Certain is like a fat black robot who uses the power of Wikipedia and good grammar to son his opponents.

Ghost1 12-20-2015 06:50 PM

Is certain black!?!?

Is this a thing?!?!?

veritas 12-20-2015 07:14 PM

Seeing as how you live here, you should know this.

Ghost1 12-20-2015 07:36 PM

@Certain?!?!

veritas 12-20-2015 07:53 PM

You are unable to be put over anthony, I am convinced. You are destined for the mId card. I swear...

Certain 12-20-2015 07:54 PM

I prefer "mixed race."

veritas 12-20-2015 08:00 PM

Don't even tell him certain. The baby has crapped his diaper....let him sit in it.

jilti 12-20-2015 08:57 PM

Im saying all the hall of fames have questionable entries. There should only be 2 tiers in a hof: god tier & demi-god tier. Example; Jordan-god tier/ shaq- demi god tier. Babe Ruth- god tier/ roger clemens-demi god tier. But there seems to be like 4 tiers tbh. Would you put Michael Jordan & chris mullin in the same sentence? Hell no. So why should they be in the same hall? Would you compare joe dimaggio & gary carter? Gary carter lol wtf? They should not be enshrined in the same place

oats 12-20-2015 09:32 PM

There would be no Dream Team without Chris Mullin. Believe that. God tier for white dudes.

I still maintain Certain is Puerto Rican.

jilti 12-21-2015 03:51 PM

@Certain

not to say if you dont win a title you shouldn't get into the hof, because there are plenty of great players never to win a title such as dan Marino charles Barkley karl malone john Stockton. But if you dont win a title AND you have a career batting average under .300, you shouldn't get in

El Muffin 12-21-2015 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 558029)
I prefer "mixed race."

Black/white?

Welcome to the Resistance

Certain 12-21-2015 04:06 PM

Baseball is not at all like basketball. Individual players cannot influence games enough to hold against them that they didn't win championships. Barry Bonds, Ted Williams and Ty Cobb never won titles.

jilti 12-21-2015 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 558113)
Baseball is not at all like basketball. Individual players cannot influence games enough to hold against them that they didn't win championships. Barry Bonds, Ted Williams and Hank Aaron never won titles.

True, but those are all time greats u mentioned who have never won a title. Jeff bagwell is not an all time great

Allen Knight 12-21-2015 04:49 PM

stfu faggot.

ill nik-A 12-21-2015 05:36 PM

Hey @jilti

Babe Ruth says you're a faggot

Thanks

jilti 12-22-2015 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill nik-A (Post 558127)
Hey @jilti

Babe Ruth says you're a faggot

Thanks

Im undefeated in pic battles.. holla

ill nik-A 12-22-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jilti (Post 558179)
Im undefeated in pic battles.. holla

Stop it, AAA shortstop

Babe Ruth doesn't waste his time

Fig 12-22-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 558029)
I prefer "mixed race."

Fucking disgusting.

Ghost1 12-22-2015 11:13 AM

Lmao


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