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Ghost1 11-16-2015 02:40 PM

stanford prison experiment 1971
 
So....just saw the new movie about this then read a ton about it.....

Any1 know about this at all or fuck w it?

Shits crazy to me

NYCSPITZ 11-16-2015 02:47 PM

yeah it was nature taking its course. It's crazy to you because you're a dumbass, pretty simple concept; if you put people in positions of power they tend to let it get to their head (in this lol worthy example: Netcees and bags and diode). On the flip side people who know it's role play and were on the prisoner side accepted their harsh conditions as reality. We tend to accept strong realities and every human can be molded one way or the other. The stronger the reality is the more likely you are to get sucked into it on either side.

Diode 11-16-2015 02:50 PM

ignore the idiot above.

deeply flawed experiment that gets introduced to every juco phil + soc 101 course by sheer habit and i really wish it would just die already.
@Batty @Veritas the invincible

Ghost1 11-16-2015 03:06 PM

Yea I mean it seems like he just rigged it to turn out confirming his preconceived theories on the subject

Oh an I see idiot NYC completely buys into it

Lol not surprised

veritas 11-16-2015 03:11 PM

What abkut it would you like to discuss anthony. It is a fascinating *experiment*.

Ghost1 11-16-2015 03:19 PM

Idk....

What're ur feelings on it?

It's legit?

Or did he steer it towards his direction

It was interesting when they did that more recent study putting similar adds in the paper one without the prison life study and one with....an the characteristics of the people that replied were completely different

Tho on the other side of that argument.....real prison guards obv choose that job knowing what it is....so it's not much different in that aspect


Idk it's alot to take in. Just interesting to me.

Diode 11-16-2015 03:27 PM

the outcome should be

some people are sadists when consequences are minimal/nonexistent

not

all people

hence a lot of COs. they want that life. truth is, though, it's a shit life with shit pay. some get off on the power and need little else.

Chyeahhh!!! 11-16-2015 03:34 PM

Whitey Bulger was in one for MKULTRA in prison

so was Charles Manson


had MK Ultra in a lot of prestigious universities back in the day

Inno 11-16-2015 03:36 PM

@bag is this the one where they let half the students be the prisoners
And the other half CO's?


If so shit is bonkers lol. Humans are horrible

Ghost1 11-16-2015 03:36 PM

That's not what this thread is about chyeaah

But I read into whitey a bit after watching black mass and also have interest in mkultra

Ghost1 11-16-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 551656)
@bag is this the one where they let half the students be the prisoners
And the other half CO's?


If so shit is bonkers lol. Humans are horrible

Yea my dude

Word up shits wild lol

Inno 11-16-2015 03:43 PM

That doc is dope tho.

Really digs into the notion that human nature is inevitable. Power is evil lol.
After a couple of weeks dem niggas grew cop staches hahaha.

I honedstly would of flipped out as a student playing a prisoner.

Nigga u know this shit make believe right? Lol

Ghost1 11-16-2015 03:51 PM

Word I mean it would've been blows if I was in there knowing it was just sum other students lol

Or maybe I would've just been bitched like the rest

Idk I read that they rioted on day 2 which wasn't really in the movie

Inno 11-16-2015 04:31 PM

So then its not real.

What stopped the prisoners from going off and basicslly
Acting like real prisoners towards the CO's.

Which in a real prison abuse like that doesnt go unchecked.
A couple of CO's would of ended up dead.

Instead. The prisoners never forget it was fake.

So how real is it? I dunno just my thought on the whole thing
Shit is mad interesting to watch. Dude seemed like he wanted it
The way it went though. Or it seemed like he enjoyed it once it
Started happening like. Yeah i knew this would happen


Edit: for those who havent seen it.

I found a clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=760lwYmpXbc

Allen Knight 11-16-2015 04:42 PM

saw the movie trailer, looks interesting.

should i watch the documentary first or the movie??

Knux 11-16-2015 04:49 PM

youre ignorant

veritas 11-16-2015 05:27 PM

Yes, Anthony. It was a legit experiment. It helped usher in more stringent ethics in psychology research.

Ask me Moar questions and I will answer.

~RustyGunZ~ 11-16-2015 05:41 PM

stfu james

uh-oh 11-16-2015 06:01 PM

so is it a documentary or a movie wqith like actors and shit

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 551664)
So then its not real.

What stopped the prisoners from going off and basicslly
Acting like real prisoners towards the CO's.

Which in a real prison abuse like that doesnt go unchecked.
A couple of CO's would of ended up dead.

Instead. The prisoners never forget it was fake.

So how real is it? I dunno just my thought on the whole thing
Shit is mad interesting to watch. Dude seemed like he wanted it
The way it went though. Or it seemed like he enjoyed it once it
Started happening like. Yeah i knew this would happen


Edit: for those who havent seen it.

I found a clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=760lwYmpXbc


They made an actual movie tho....it's not a documentary

I haven't seen the documentary which is maybe what u saw?

But yea I feel u in what ur saying.....the whole thing is mind boggling

Objective 11-16-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 551682)
stfu james

He isn't wrong.

Doesn't really matter if what he did steered the group or not as much as the psychological impact it had either way on the group and the setting they found themselves in. No matter how you look at it there's some strong data about group psychology in general even though it's a bit radical. You can kind of see the same development in places where groups of people get together and hierarchies form, maybe most prevalent in middle/high-school.

I would STRONGLY advise watching the Stanford Prison Documentary and the Abu Ghraib Prison doc straight after, the Stanford prison experiment have been tied to what happened there a lot and for seriously good reasons as well.

Interesting shit.

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 551689)
so is it a documentary or a movie wqith like actors and shit

There's both

There's a new movie that came out this year w actors an shit tho which is wat I saw

Objective 11-16-2015 06:04 PM

@Bags: Is the movie any good?

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 551691)
He isn't wrong.

Doesn't really matter if what he did steered the group or not as much as the psychological impact it had either way on the group and the setting they found themselves in. No matter how you look at it there's some strong data about group psychology in general even though it's a bit radical. You can kind of see the same development in places where groups of people get together and hierarchies form, maybe most prevalent in middle/high-school.

I would STRONGLY agree watching the prison documentary and the Abu Ghraib Prison doc afterwards, the Stanford prison experiment have been tied to what happened there a lot and for seriously good reasons as well.

Interesting shit.

I saw all the comparisons to Abu ghraib but my only gripe w that is that if I'm one of them soldiers I'd be piss in on an torturing them prisoners just cuz they're punjab terrorist fagots

A bit different then just bullying prisoners for fun

Imo

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Objective (Post 551693)
@Bags: Is the movie any good?

I dug it. Shit sucked Me in. I haven't seen any of the documentaries so I couldn't compare but from what I'm reading the movie isn't really exaggerated from the actual happenings at all.

Objective 11-16-2015 06:09 PM

Dope, I'll have to check it out soon then.

Chamber 11-16-2015 06:14 PM

watching this now, pretty crazy so far.


http://putlocker.is/watch-the-stanfo...putlocker.html

Inno 11-16-2015 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bags (Post 551690)
They made an actual movie tho....it's not a documentary

I haven't seen the documentary which is maybe what u saw?

But yea I feel u in what ur saying.....the whole thing is mind boggling

Bro you gotta watch the doc its so much better

It goes into details the movie will never cover. Trust.

In the doc they show actual footage of the experiment. Check out the link
In my post. Thats part of the doc. I cant find the full doc just yet

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:41 PM

Nice I'll have to dig around for it....if u find it post it I'm def interested

Inno 11-16-2015 06:44 PM

Gimme some time to find ill post it here

PancakeBrah 11-16-2015 07:57 PM

This shit is wack.

Knux 11-16-2015 08:35 PM

@Bags where can i watch the documentary at

Ghost1 11-16-2015 08:40 PM

Waiting on Innovator to post it

veritas 11-16-2015 08:44 PM

So how does this experiment apply to modern day netcees anthony?

Ghost1 11-16-2015 08:54 PM

Lol. That's a long winded explanation. Netcees is deeper then even just this tho.

veritas 11-16-2015 08:57 PM

Answer the question.

Ghost1 11-16-2015 08:59 PM

I don't wanna I'm watchin maze runner

veritas 11-16-2015 09:00 PM

Answer the question after. I will make it worth your while Anthony.

Knux 11-16-2015 09:16 PM

maze runner 1 or 2

Ghost1 11-16-2015 09:24 PM

2


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