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oats 11-16-2015 10:48 AM

Re: Anonymous declaring war on ISIS
 
I know some of you guys actually know a thing or two about hacking etc, so riddle me this. Hypothetically, what can hackers do to ISIS?

sral 11-16-2015 10:53 AM

I'm at work right now, I'll edit my post in here once i've finished at the gym tonight.

It could be a lengthy one.

Anon are everywhere, even in positions of power. I may not be able to do a great deal in this global problem - but my skills here have been widely known/used. Thats just a small percent of what I'm capable of.

A lot of you know I work in immigration and have access to databases of information on immigrants, asylum seekers, passports, work visas, travel documents, names, addresses, dates of birth. (a lot are Syrian refugees)

There's a lot of interesting facts I could find about certain people, if I needed/wanted to. Stuff I could push in the right direction, if needed, to make their whereabouts known. Or their families whereabouts. I could certainly make life difficult for certain individuals, if I pleased, under the radar - with help from my /b/rethren.

Speak soon!

LarsDaHax0rGod

Ghost1 11-16-2015 10:57 AM

Post ur workout routine too my g

Diode 11-16-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sraL (Post 551576)
I'm at work right now, I'll edit my post in here once i've finished at the gym tonight.

It could be a lengthy one.

Anon are everywhere, even in positions of power. I may not be able to do a great deal in this global problem - but my skills here have been widely known/used. Thats just a small percent of what I'm capable of.

A lot of you know I work in immigration and have access to databases of information on immigrants, asylum seekers, passports, work visas, travel documents, names, addresses, dates of birth. (a lot are Syrian refugees)

There's a lot of interesting facts I could find about certain people, if I needed/wanted to. Stuff I could push in the right direction, if needed, to make their whereabouts known. Or their families whereabouts. I could certainly make life difficult for certain individuals, if I pleased, under the radar - with help from my /b/rethren.

Speak soon!

LarsDaHax0rGod

No.

Stop this.

uh-oh 11-16-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 551575)
I know some of you guys actually know a thing or two about hacking etc, so riddle me this. Hypothetically, what can hackers do to ISIS?

Militarily, not a thing.

~RustyGunZ~ 11-16-2015 11:43 AM

They can fuck with their communications a bit probably and maybe release info on people but not really much

Also gone @ barons contribution to thread having nothing to do with hacking but alot to do with abusing his position in govt

Nameflip 11-16-2015 11:44 AM

Redirect their homepage to gay porn?

Hide their shortcuts, probably exit out of websites without notice ugh so annoying. Send pizza to their hideout for a fairly large amount. Post "I'm gay" FB updates on their profiles.

Hey, it could be bad man.

oats 11-16-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nameflip (Post 551588)
Redirect their homepage to gay porn?

Hide their shortcuts, probably exit out of websites without notice ugh so annoying. Send pizza to their hideout for a fairly large amount. Post "I'm gay" FB updates on their profiles.

Hey, it could be bad man.

lol whatever they end up doing, I really hope they do this kind of shit, too

Nameflip 11-16-2015 12:47 PM

Lol that would be so frustrating for Isis

Ghost1 11-16-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 551587)
They can fuck with their communications a bit probably and maybe release info on people but not really much

Also gone @ barons contribution to thread having nothing to do with hacking but alot to do with abusing his position in govt

Lol lold

sral 11-16-2015 05:15 PM

LOL Knuck sent one email to Karaoke he found through the admin panel and Kar's User CP and suddenly thinks he knows what he's talking about.

I've never had admin powers here, and still exposed numerous people.


This is deeper than just lobsterdogging someone's email box.

There are a few different modes of attack, Political Cracking - usually site defacement, taking websites down, locating and removing Twitter/social media accounts of supporters, redirects, denial of service attacks, information theft, distribution etc

There's a lot of sensitive information exchanged online that can be accessed, distributed to the relevant authorities, and dealt with appropriately.

You don't think it can be laid out in explicit detail the chain of funding and supplies from the U.S. and Israeli governments to ISIS? I beg to differ. You'll see it happen.

Sleeper cells around the world could potentially be exposed before attacks take place.

Aside from that obvious one, cutting off their communication will make a big difference. A large number of ISIS followers and recruits are through these websites.

ISIS have at least one known bitcoin wallet worth $3 million dollars. Sure, that's a relatively small amount, but hacking the Bitcoin accounts then prevents them buying weapons and vehicles on the underground black market. It's a small start, but it's a start nonetheless. And this will only grow in scale.

These are FACTS. These exist. These things are being looked into RIGHT NOW, and have been since at least September. It just got ramped up a gear.

Objective 11-16-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 551575)
I know some of you guys actually know a thing or two about hacking etc, so riddle me this. Hypothetically, what can hackers do to ISIS?

Haven't read shit in this thread so I apologize in advance for my lazy boarding and probably saying what someone has already said, but:

* Identifying people/leaders and their whereabouts.
* Taking down propoganda sites and live beheadings.
* Generally just toying with them if they can because lulz.
* Doing this ^ will also destroy their reputation a bit and hopefully slow them down. (Imo this is naive and often adds fuel to the fire, whether that's good or not... I don't know, but it might have ugly consequences for those trapped down there but also show that these big ugly muhfuckers is not invincible to straight forward protesting either.)
* Stopping donations and/or releasing anti-terrorist messages on ISIS's own websites/social media.
* Anonymous also sent a lot of care packages to Egypt when the sick shit went down a few years ago as well, and helped leak videos and giving the citizens alternative ways of going online when the gov shut down the internet etc. If they're capable of that, who knows what they'll figure out to help others get videos/information out from the inside as well through their own channels.
* DDoS attacks, spamming mails and generally just making communication a hassle and confuse them a shit ton with mis information trolling their way in any way possible to get under their skin to show the world how little power they have when confronted by people with a cause and a goal, and show support in a rather passive-aggressive way.

A bit mis-info here and there but this is a great read and should make you understand what they're capable of and what drives a lot of them: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...asked-avengers

~RustyGunZ~ 11-16-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sraL (Post 551675)
LOL Knuck sent one email to Karaoke he found through the admin panel and Kar's User CP and suddenly thinks he knows what he's talking about.

I've never had admin powers here, and still exposed numerous people.


This is deeper than just lobsterdogging someone's email box.

lol but you have had help from admins

beside the point though I know of it, I don't do it because it's a waste of fucking time but none of it is complicated. He whose name shall not be spoken can do most of it ffs.

yeah all you're saying could happen, but it probably won't

the ddos and shit yeah but actually getting a hold of their bitcoin purse? idk

I feel like if anyone was gonna do that to them they would have by now

I hope they do but I'm just not thinking they will succeed to any significant extent

Objective 11-16-2015 06:12 PM

Word @ doubting they'll get a hold of their bitcoin purse. I personally believe the bitcoin shit is more secure than whatever bank anyone of us use.

uh-oh 11-16-2015 06:22 PM

i'd love to see "anonymous" make a difference.

but be real nerds. ddos'ing a website ain't doing shit. maybe they "out" some isis members who are in the western world. in the end that does nothing.

if they want to "declare war" on isis, lets see them get off there computers and out there with weapons.

Ghost1 11-16-2015 06:37 PM

Lol I'm sure we have more capable computer tech within our federal govt then anon

Lmao gtfoh

Flow 11-16-2015 06:44 PM

Mass Ddos attacks and releasing pools of information is about as much as they can do. Id expect at best we will see some social media defacing. Which given how important a tool that has come for ISIS would still be something.

Objective 11-16-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bags (Post 551704)
Lol I'm sure we have more capable computer tech within our federal govt then anon

Lmao gtfoh

It's usually easier to fuck shit up than build things. I'm not saying they're not capable of having secure shit, I mean, obviously they do and hire the best. But new shit and info comes through all the time and you best believe certain 15-16 year olds that have done nothing but coding and getting involved with blackhat shit the past 4 years can surpass the knowledge within the gov. There's a lot of those.

Junto 11-16-2015 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sraL (Post 551675)
You don't think it can be laid out in explicit detail the chain of funding and supplies from the U.S. and Israeli governments to ISIS? I beg to differ. You'll see it happen.

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Diode 11-16-2015 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Junto (Post 551724)
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Knew this would get you out of hiding.

Thread is adorable. I hope it lasts.

Junto 11-16-2015 07:47 PM

I was hiding when?

nah just highlighted that since I seen @Chyeahhh!!! say the same & everyone jump him for it

lotta cards on the table from L Presidente though. I'm just an observer, no comment

Objective 11-16-2015 08:08 PM

Whahahah, fucking dead at this shit: http://www.faisalalmutar.com/2015/11...-given-credit/

oats 11-17-2015 02:23 AM

idk, hackers kinda scare the shit out of me tbh, but I feel like it's easy to fuck with individuals but I don't quite understand what they could do other than little pestering things to ISIS. Not that those are meaningless things.

sral 11-17-2015 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junto (Post 551729)
I was hiding when?

nah just highlighted that since I seen @Chyeahhh!!! say the same & everyone jump him for it

lotta cards on the table from L Presidente though. I'm just an observer, no comment

I speak the truth.

I don't tend to share my political views or boring shit around here, there's a time/place/thread for that.

Best believe there's a whole lot more to this than a gay porn subscription mailed to an inbox, though...

Junto 11-17-2015 02:43 AM

yea a different audience for that

I don't disagree wit anything you said... but you said a lot...

oats 11-17-2015 04:25 AM

@Objective thanks for the New Yorker piece, super informative. also makes me appreciate Mr. Robot on a whole different level.

oats 11-17-2015 04:39 AM

thoughts after reading it: there's something democratizing about these hacker groups, to have a free-roaming counterbalance, but it's also unnerving. seems prone to impulse and disorganization, which can lead to errors. I'd love for them to wipe out records of student loans and shit, but that may be a bit more difficult than they're capable of. fascinating though, makes me wish I wasn't such a dumbass with technology.

sral 11-17-2015 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 551688)
lol but you have had help from admins

beside the point though I know of it, I don't do it because it's a waste of fucking time but none of it is complicated. He whose name shall not be spoken can do most of it ffs.

yeah all you're saying could happen, but it probably won't

the ddos and shit yeah but actually getting a hold of their bitcoin purse? idk

I feel like if anyone was gonna do that to them they would have by now

I hope they do but I'm just not thinking they will succeed to any significant extent


lmao my admin contact only sent me an email addy when i was at work, away from my home comp with the software and databases

thats not how this is done

do you not remember IAmRhetoric trying me?

http://www.netcees.org/showthread.ph...hetoric&page=2

thread started there

i had no help at all, no admin contact, no pictures, no real name posted here (it was super easy to insult, as it turned out when i found it), no email addy (if you follow the thread from that link to the end, you'll see Rhet say himself his FB accounts etc arent even registered with the same email he used here) @IAmRhetoric for confirmation

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Originally Posted by IAmRhetoric (Post 506948)
just checked my account to see what email i used

i retract my comments. idk how but well played.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sraL (Post 506950)
I told you, I does this.

Surely me getting your full name with zero assist, no pictures, no email etc should at least throw you a warning as to the kind of person I am and what I'm capable of?

It's not like your name is John Smith. I didn't just pull the name Tyler FAGER out of my ass from the other side of the world.

Be careful who you speak to online, kid. It's a dangerous place. Hush vouches for you though so I'll let you live.

Want me to delete your government name from previous posts?

@Hush was even in the thread as this went down, nothing came from him AT ALL thats on my life

i tracked Rhet down from the other side of the world with mere scraps of info and valuble sources

noone is untouchable

eventually they'll make a mistake

this can be done without the need for signup email addresses to be looked at from the admin cp lol

thats just a lazy way of exposing a couple fags here who should know better

sral 11-17-2015 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $chein Dolla $ign (Post 551688)
lol but you have had help from admins

beside the point though I know of it, I don't do it because it's a waste of fucking time but none of it is complicated. He whose name shall not be spoken can do most of it ffs.

yeah all you're saying could happen, but it probably won't

the ddos and shit yeah but actually getting a hold of their bitcoin purse? idk

I feel like if anyone was gonna do that to them they would have by now

I hope they do but I'm just not thinking they will succeed to any significant extent

It's not even solely about getting hold of the bitcoin purse, even though that IS possible, ANY cryptocurrency can be uncrypted.

That aside, you have to be aware of things like DigitalNote and that its used in regions with social tension/total surveillance.

by extremists like ISIS for funding/recruiting

these wallets are also used for peer-to-peer communication, almost like an encrypted "messenger" would be to exchange private info, to recruit/to plot/to exchange info on bombmaking etc

this is being used RIGHT NOW

infiltrating these or somehow setting up a masked redirect and keylogger to see what is being exchanged could be seriously useful

oats 11-17-2015 06:23 AM

respect, @sraL. do you think Anonymous has the ability to hack into ISIS shit, though? The few articles I read (New Yorker one got me google voyaging) seem to think that very few in Anonymous are skilled hackers.

Chyeahhh!!! 11-17-2015 08:17 AM

Junto....I love u

Chill Phil 11-17-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 551575)
I know some of you guys actually know a thing or two about hacking etc, so riddle me this. Hypothetically, what can hackers do to ISIS?

expose them. leading to arrests and ultimately foiling their plans for now.

Witty 11-17-2015 09:49 AM

I dont understand this thread.

oats 11-17-2015 09:52 AM

apparently they just posted the names of 5500 ISIS related twitter accounts, which have now been suspended.

Objective 11-17-2015 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chill Phil (Post 551877)
expose them. leading to arrests and ultimately foiling their plans for now.

Yeah, that might seem awesome at first. I'm just afraid that the most important ones are people the feds or whoever investigating this shit already knows about and they want to continue to follow them without them going too much into hiding. When people expose shit it creates a certain dynamic that might be a bit misfortunate for the people that's already trying to track them that are sitting on information they want to build upon. I don't know if there's any story as to why they exposed them this time but I hope they tried to go through the right channels first before releasing the information to the public.

Ghost1 11-17-2015 05:50 PM

Damn that shit on point as fuck objective. Rep.

~RustyGunZ~ 11-17-2015 06:02 PM

I couldn't read that all Ian sorry got boring but okay

I don't really care just saying I don't think anon is going to stop is is to any significant extent

Objective 11-17-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 551832)
The few articles I read (New Yorker one got me google voyaging) seem to think that very few in Anonymous are skilled hackers.

Yeah, the thing many people forget (or don't know) is that ''Anonymous'' can be anyone and isn't exclusively hackers. The anonymous is simply that: anonymous people regardless of background with different skillsets, views and opinions that aren't tied to anything. No name or anything tied to you that you identify with such as a username etc. On 4chan, even though discussions (even intelligent ones at times) occur having a registered username (yes, it's possible to register a username on 4chan) is looked down upon because with it you kind of ruin the essence of raw conversation with nothing to draw the attention away from the subject and exactly what the messages in the replies on the site are for. Nothing to tie earlier arguments with that and that person as each debate/conversation is for the most part completely fresh from start to finish.

The anonymous is more likely to be me, your neighbor or someone else on this site than some coder that wants to fuck shit up for ISIS and cause chaos for the fun of it in a Comedian from The Watchmen's type of way. They exist, but ye it isn't as cyber, deep and secret as they try to make it. It's just an ideology of society and with many interpretations as well, don't take what I've said at face value either btw. But ye, this is mainly the gist of it.

And if you find technology, the internet and secret underground communities really interesting I'd highly advise you to read about this yearly puzzle to weed out the weaker unintelligent people and find certain highly intelligent people for a cause people know very little about as well. You don't have to understand too much technology to get what the article talks/is about, enjoy: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...stery-20150115

Ghost1 11-17-2015 08:48 PM

I read that whole article. Dope.

Objective 11-18-2015 11:27 AM

Word @ Bags, dope that you/someone read it. Actually took me a couple mins to find the article but it's quality so I felt like I had to share just in case, hah.

Might be a bit off-topic but could be interesting to some. Anonymous isn't ISIS biggest threat, apparently women is: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...s-fear-6275913
TL;DR: Certain extremists thinks that getting killed by female soldiers robs them for the martyr death and sends them straight to Hell. :)


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