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Orc 06-15-2015 12:02 PM

Game of thrones season finale
 
Them feels bros

R.i.p

Ullr 06-15-2015 12:10 PM

Such an intense finale - so much happened plot wise that changes so much in the balance of this story. Ugghhh

RIP though, for real

Ullr 06-15-2015 12:13 PM

What the fuck happened to Arya at the end?

~RustyGunZ~ 06-15-2015 12:24 PM

Jon snow is going to do one of two things imo

Azor ahai

Or worg into ghost

Hope Sansa and reek died

Orc 06-15-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $eth $crilla (Post 492096)
Jon snow is going to do one of two things imo

Azor ahai

Or worg into ghost

Hope Sansa and reek died

When I read the book I assumed he wasn't dead

Now though, Kit Harrington has said he is finished with the show?

So maybe Warg

Unfukwitable 06-15-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ullr (Post 492095)
What the fuck happened to Arya at the end?

word some bugged shit happened

they violated the queen & john snow tho shessh

~RustyGunZ~ 06-15-2015 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orc (Post 492097)
When I read the book I assumed he wasn't dead

Now though, Kit Harrington has said he is finished with the show?

So maybe Warg

If they just kill him and do nothing with it I will be beyond pissed

I get the show makes things realistic like yeah he's fucking dead but cmon

Either him or stannis come back as azor ahai next season or grrm and the producers are faggots

Hush 06-15-2015 02:36 PM

Haven't saw it yet, about to get it popping right now.

~RustyGunZ~ 06-15-2015 02:43 PM

damn hush can't believe you even peeped the thread before watching

passed out last night and watched it on dvr this morning before touching my phone

couldn't go to work/check fb without seeing it

hate fucking spoilers

Hush 06-15-2015 03:46 PM

No worries. The Stannis situation played out in suprising yet boring fashion.

~RustyGunZ~ 06-15-2015 03:50 PM

All of them were like that to me

They put a seasons worth of wtf moments in one episode and each one went so goddamn quickly

and still no sign of bran?

Ronin 06-15-2015 03:58 PM

Nah Jon ain't dead. They didn't show the red lady cming back for nothing. I thought what if he comes back to life cause they didn't burn his body

Was disappointed in the way danys ended. The books had her controlling drogon and coming down on the dothraki.

Cersei got it raw. But now she got her own personal mountain.

uh-oh 06-15-2015 07:55 PM

jon is dead.

sort of. the red lady can't save him, because he's in mormonts old raven, or maybe ghost. although we all know ghost is next.

but he might not be. the show gives less than a fuck about the wolves, where they play an integral part in the books. i mean arya basically enters nymeria in her dreams and leads a giant wolfpack by night, bran is bran he's already a skinchanger or whatever they call them prior to even meeting bryndan rivers and the children of the forest, they don't touch on the little dude, ryon? i even forget his name. but he controls his mean ass wolf sort of. maybe not directly in the books but i vaguely remember his wolf in the stark burial ground thing and him making it chill or whatever

but my point is the wolves play a huge part in the books. jon snow never once in the show displays any warg type shit, but i remember in the books something with mormonts crow and a definite connection with ghost.

but yo, the kid who plays jon snow isnt signed on for the next 2 seasons. so the red witch ain't bringing him back, and she's never shown she COULD bring anyone back. the only sorcery she actually did was kill renly. everything else was happenstance involving blood from LEECHES of roberts bastards. she "killed" joffrey, robb stark, and balon greyjoy, with leeches, when in reality she just used their deaths to prove to stannis her magic worked. the only time it did work was with the shadow demon thing.

but word, no jon snow anymore, unless he takes over ghost, or mormonts raven. and then maybe he jumps from the wolf or raven into ANOTHER human. but thats the only way snows coming back.

the only reason i believe he could come back is he's rhaegars kid not neds. when the showrunners approached george rr martin in 2005 martin asked them who jon snows mother was, they gave an answer and martin liked their answer and agreed to do the show.

which leads me to believe he plays one of the biggest parts since its basically the main question that led to the show even happening.

but word the show is completely caught up with the books, and past it in the case of stannis. the showrunners were smart enough to know that sansa was boring as shit in the books, so they gave her jeyne pooles role in the show, married to ramsey, her and theon leap off the castle word

but word stannis is still alive in the books, but judging by his death at the hands of brienne, i feel its coming.

in the sample chapter for theon/reek from the next book martin released, reek is locked up in stannis' control. stannis either lost a battle with the boltons, i don't remember if that happens in the last book or not, either way though stannis has a ragtag garrison and has theon.

they move shit around. this is a long post no one will read. but i'm gonna keep going so eat my flaccid dick you faggot fucks. but word theon fled with jeyne pool and got grabbed up by stannis i think? i dunno yo i forget.

thats the only storyline that isn't caught up.

HOWEVER THO, THERE ARE NO GREYJOYS, AND NO YOUNG GRIFF.

they've moved way past tyrion. tyrion is apart of the games of mereen, when drogon comes and daenrys dips out. he never actually meets her, although i can see it happening now i guess. assuming that shit in the show is somewhat aligned with shit in the future books, since martin told the showrunners everyones fate.

but in the books, before mormont grabs him in a whorehouse, he's traveling with young griff who i won't talk about because who knows they might cast him in the next season

if not it might be telling for those who read the books. if he isnt in the show, he might not be in the books much longer.

but with jon snow "dead" it makes things interesting on that end.

but word the greyjoys are nowhere to be seen. euron/victarion and them. they might be next season

but i doubt it. i think they're leaving them out too. maybe not tho, they could be the fleet that takes daenrys still. not really spoilers because like i said everyones storylines are caught up.

all the main characters.

also i don't think myrcella is dead in the books either. i vaguely remember them moving her around tho and protecting her. some dornish dudes. i dunno i kinda skimmed/skipped those chapters

i hate when martin introduces new point of views lol.

long post out.

Ronin 06-15-2015 11:44 PM

Please no more long posts. Please. Myrcella and stannis do not die in the books. And OF COURSE kit said he wasn't signed on to do the next two season that would be an obvi spoiler for him being alive. Wtf. Hopefully that fat fuck will be releasing Winds of Winter now that the show is caught up. I mean shit its only been fifty fuckn years since dance of dragons came out

And young Griff better be in next season. But idk if they're gonna do him with tyrion already in mereen. Sansas gonna have something to do with the red god story line tho. And they need to quit fuckn around and show her tits already, I'm sick of this bullshit.

Ronin 06-15-2015 11:46 PM

Also why the fuxk didn't someone release the dragons so they could take over the city like in the books. That pissed me off too, I wanted to see them wreck shit

Fart 06-15-2015 11:56 PM

This season kind of sucked tbh. And not because Jon dies. All build up with almost no climax besides the "shocking" death of Jon.

Ronin 06-16-2015 12:08 AM

Hard home could've easily been the finale. Then u got dany riding the dragon then Jon dieing. Arya going beast mode and cersei getting her comeupan's.

Just can't satisfy some ppl I guess

uh-oh 06-16-2015 06:40 AM

this was the best season probably. art your nuts bro. for the hardhome sequence alone

what did you think was build up tho? i mean the whole show/books are sort of build up until the white walkers finally show up in force at the wall/through the wall, and the dragons show up in westeros

but yea, i think young griff can still show up, they might introduce him as landing in westeros and just skip his whole essos storyline, but the show never touched on jon connington or any of them, and since there is only 2 seasons left i doubt they can realistically find time to introduce them when realistically these last two seasons basically have to have shit GOING DOWN.

also i'm pretty sure martin is trying to release winds of winter before the show comes out, i remember reading half a year ago that robin hobb, a fantasy writer and friend of martin let slip that he was basically done with it, and martin had to publicly denounce it. he might be waiting to drop it to get more sales around when the next season starts, and also gives him time to be writing for the final book before people start bitching a year after the 6th drops lol

uh-oh 06-16-2015 06:43 AM

i just started reading "the world of ice and fire" by the way. i didnt make it far at all, but one thing did strike me as interesting

the wildlings have an old folk tale or whatever you call it, about giants and the children of the forest both claiming a cave as there own. they bring in humans to mediate and say who it belongs too, and the humans convince them that neither of them want it. that cave is part of a system of caves that actually tunnels right under the wall

that'd be crazy if the cave exists, and the white walkers just take winterfell out of the blue lol. bypassing the nights watch

~RustyGunZ~ 06-16-2015 07:26 AM

Uh oh that world of ice and fire is dope

My lady got it for me for Christmas

Ronin 06-16-2015 09:10 AM

Yea that network of caves is where bran is right now. And grrm said he's extended the books to 9 instead of 7 cause there's still so much he wants to do. He said no way he finishes it in 7.

Batty 06-16-2015 10:11 AM

Well, all I can say is that I hope all of the references from this season end up actually making sense later, otherwise fuck them for wasting my time.

If Jon Snow is Targerean, perhaps when they go to burn his body, he will rise like The Mother of Dragons and then Melissandre will get her spirits lifted to the fire Gawd once more?

Here's to hoping that the Direwolves and Longclaw actually end up truly mattering in the end or again, F them for wasting my time.

Also, the show likes to show us violent deaths, so if a character does not die a violent death, I will not believe that they are dead. I would imagine that The Hound is not dead and possibly Stannis isn't dead. Next season it may show that Breanne just stabbed the sword into the tree.

Who knows. I just want the show to ultimately make sense.

Hush 06-16-2015 10:22 AM

Why does everyone keep saying that if "you don't see them die" they are not dead. Do you really think that big dyke chick was going to let Stannis live?

Ronin 06-16-2015 10:36 AM

Idk. But, if u don't see em die then they're not dead...more n likely lol

~RustyGunZ~ 06-16-2015 11:25 AM

Yeah I think it'll show her sword in the tree behind him next season and she's gonna use him as a bargaining chip for ramsay to get Sansa

But Sansa ducked out so she'll just get her axe wound mutilated by Yung Bolton

Batty 06-16-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hush (Post 492325)
Why does everyone keep saying that if "you don't see them die" they are not dead. Do you really think that big dyke chick was going to let Stannis live?

I'm just sayin... the money match is Mountain VS Hound. We know Mountain aint dead, no word on Hound but yo, that's match of the century for me so I'm hoping.

I'm almost 100 for sure the Boltons want Stannis' head on a pike at their gate, that's whats up so you know Sasquatch Dyke gotta be smart enough to know that.

Victor 06-16-2015 02:28 PM

Hmm. Good points by both. Jon dead tho lol

Ronin 06-16-2015 04:54 PM

U shut ur fuckn whore mouth saying jon dead nigga

Fart 06-16-2015 06:23 PM

hardhome should of been the finale. the finale episode was rushed and sloppy. i hated it. a lot of stannis/bolton build up for it to end in 30 seconds. fucking wack fucking garbage

dyedinthewool 06-16-2015 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artificial (Post 492146)
Nah Jon ain't dead. They didn't show the red lady cming back for nothing. I thought what if he comes back to life cause they didn't burn his body

Was disappointed in the way danys ended. The books had her controlling drogon and coming down on the dothraki.

Cersei got it raw. But now she got her own personal mountain.

That's what I thought. After they killed him I remembered that the red lady had come back to castle black. But as per the director and kit, jon snow is dead. What better way to keep everyone on their toes til next season though?

And cersei is getting ready to clean house next season with that big ol knight. That doctor put him the fuck back together somehow

uh-oh 06-16-2015 08:58 PM

kit harington was spotted in belfast where they film

so people are thinking he's coming back

but he could be "back" to play his corpse

USELESS KNOWLEDGE

john hensley 06-17-2015 12:20 AM

I say no way Jon is dead. If he were his role would have been pointless. How about Sam the apprentice maester reviving him? I dunno. But they wrote Jon as such an important character I don't see his storyline just ending with a night watch mutiny. I say he dies but then comes back

uh-oh 06-17-2015 12:26 AM

in the books he probably survives by warging into ghost. pretty sure the first chapter of book 5 is of a skinchanger/warg/animal dude, who means nothing to the story really. he's just a wildling dude who controls beasts. but martin makes a point to open the book with him, stealing the body of another human to stay alive. and then the last chapter, or at least one of the last chapter, snow "dies". so he probably does that.

but the show could be completely different. they might put all there eggs in the daenrys basket considering there is no young griff

"3 headed dragon"

they introduce no young griff, and kill jon snow. they can just make it daenrys with her 3 dragons. while in the books its probably gonna be daenyrs, griff, and jon snow. although i hold out hope tyrion is 1 of the three heads and griff is a failure

i want to talk about griff but i'll feel shitty if he ends up showing up in the show next season. lol i've probably said too much already

john hensley 06-17-2015 12:49 AM

Jon snow won't just go away imo. Why waste so much precious money shooting snow if there's only a simple death to end it?

Ronin 06-17-2015 01:36 AM

He might take over someone's body, but they gotta be brainless for that to happen. Yea he aint dead. I still say the red witch revives him as azor ahai with theons blood cause technically theon is kings blood.

I think bran will control a dragon with his warg power.

Unfukwitable 06-17-2015 10:05 AM

Theory is that Jon Snow will come back as the Lightbringer dude that Slayed the white walkers in the past.

Fart 06-17-2015 11:39 AM

Mountainstein FTW tho

uh-oh 06-17-2015 06:09 PM

"Prophecy is like a half-trained mule. It looks as though it might be useful, but the moment you trust in it, it kicks you in the head." - tyrion lannister

yall put too much shit into azor ahai.

in case you only watch the show and young griff might enter the show, you might not want to read below. but you should. because the show is caught up to the books and past them.

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the prince that was promised is also a prophecy, that is DIFFERENT, from azor ahai, but people use them interchangeably, like melisandre or whatever. her being a follower of rhloor or whatever the fuck, believe in azor ahai, but its a tale from asshai or some shit. the prince who was promised is in westeros. he is born under the bleeding star or whatever (the comet thing) and amidst smoke and salt. jon snow was born a long time before the comet was in the sky. he may have been born amidst smoke and salt tho, if rhaegar knocked up lyanna and she was captive or whatever in that tower, when ned, howling reed and them killed the sword of the morning and the other kingsguard guarding the tower

this also lends credence tho to her carrying rhaegars heir, because why else would the kingsguard be guarding a stark in a tower, and not guarding their king. so while jon snow is probably targaryan, even ghost has the white hair of one, he probably isn't the prince who is promised. he probably isn't azor ahai either because he doesn't have a flaming sword. if you think longclaw being valyrian steel fits the mold, then there are over 200 people in westeros alone who have a valyrian steel blade who could also be him.

rhaegar himself believed he was the prince who was promised, then he had aegon, and named him the prince who was promised. aegon is still alive, i don't think there was a comet and i don't know where he was born. but word young griff doesn't have a sword either, and rhaegar was wrong thinking he was the prince, so he's probably wrong thinking his son is too, but who's to say he isn't?

they also claim it could be daenrys

and then other cultures have different prophecies as well, yi ti thinks its a woman with a monkey tail.

my main point of this post is prophecies are bullshit.

martin deals in realism, albeit in the fantasy realm. if jon snow ends up being something important cool. i just ain't placing my eggs in that basket. i'm not saying he's definitively dead, but i'm also not proclaiming him anything. he has yet to do ANYTHING in the books except be hated and made lord commander, and then stabbed alot. he doesn't kill any white walkers.

melisandre has never resurrected anyone. she might not be able to, let alone know how to. and even if she does resurrect him, like whats his face, fuck i forget. the one dude, he could come back completely different. the one knight who died a bunch of times and was brought back a bunch of times, was different every time. he was a pompous ass who was boastful and bagged bitches, then he came back and was sullen and ominous, then he came back different again etc.

so jon snow could come back a completely different dude.

or what i think happens is he takes over ghost or mormonts raven, and then takes over a different human altogether

also the three headed dragon thing is tricky. tyrion has just as strong a claim to targaryan blood as jon snow. i mean he even has the violet eyes. aegon is alive, and daenrys too. tyrion is martins favorite character. it wouldnt surprise me if jon snow is dead as shit and those 3 are the main 3 headed into the end. or even if aegon fails and is killed, and jon snow lives, and its jon tyrion and dany

one thing to keep in mind too, is aegon the conquerer had 2 wives. so dany the conquerer might have 2 husbands

the key is tho no one knows. my main point to reiterate is prophecies are dumb. this isn't normal fantasy where you can guess what will happen.

i'm just hype for the winds of winter

uh-oh 06-17-2015 06:26 PM

but yo

if the prophecy is true its daenerys. i've made up my mind.

dragons have no gender, maester aemon tells sam that the prince or whatever could mean princess as well, the prophecy is so old the translation was fucked.

dany was born on dragonstone, the island stronghold of the targaryans, amidst a great storm (born amongst salt). she seen the red comet in the sky before burning drogo's funeral pyre (where she was reborn as the mother of dragons, "born amonst smoke")

also the woods witch/ghost of high heart, who predicted balon greyjoys death and a bunch of other shit to arya and the brotherhood without banners, also predicted the prince who was promised would come from dany's parents, which is why their marriage was arranged. they had two kids. viserys and dany. viserys is dead. dany is the only other kid they had.

so she has the strongest claim.

jon snow can suck a dick.

uh-oh 06-17-2015 06:31 PM

also when tyrion and jorah hear that dude speaking or whatever about dany, and how the "dark eye is upon her" tyrion recognises it from an ancient prophecy

they don't elaborate on what prophecy, but considering every thing we do know of the prince that was promised that fits with dany, its safe to assume that this also fits


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