A breif moment of psychopathology pt. II
 

A patient told me yesterday: "I am free. It is everyone else who are slaves."


discuss:

he is delusional. we are all slaves until we gather enough loot to free ourselves

so a man could buy his freedom?

absolutely

I disagree. You are not enlightened.

Maybe he is free.

Not being under the restraints of societal norms due to his presumed psychological problem.

Obviously don't know what he was visiting you for though.

he was a rapist and a murderer..


think about this: on this earth (after-life judgment not pending lol) he is mentally free. He has no conscionse to hold him back. The things that stop us from doing what we "really" want are void in him. In this aspect he is more free than you or I...funny huh?

We're all bound by the laws of physics. We can't be free. Existence itself is made up of math, energies and how the universe plays out can probably be calculated if we knew how and had a computer powerful enough to do it. Think about it; If you decided to blow up a car and knew the mast, explosion etc. you could calculate where each and every piece would land. Why should the explosion or whatever that created existence be any different? We're all just pieces of a math problem that's solving itself as we live.

Some even say that being free is a state of mind, but there's still boundaries to that as they wont be 100% free anyways as long as your mind is trapped within a body and the brain can only do so much.. So no, we're all slaves to the natural progression of the universe and its inevitable outcome along with all your hardships that would have happened anyways because that's just how it is.

So I was right, awesome.

I'll give you a call sometime with tips, V.

nah nigga you are wrong

if i had bill gates money i could buy an island, buy people from impoverished countries and create my own nation where i am king/god

i would be free. bill gates himself is still a slave. he has to pay taxes and etc. but he could start his own country and be free dog

all you need is money and the world is yours and its people your tools

I assume that patient didn't choose to see you, but was required to as a provision of incarceration or parole.
hardly free

brief*

Ikr?

It is funny though...a man can be behind bars but be free. A man can be outside of bars and free.

This man although a maniac...believes he has no limits. No laws.

Fascinating.

Wrong. You still have to exist in your mind. Wake up.

you don't have to do anything. thats slave talk dog

you have to die

i would have to die if i raped a baby.

i don't have to die. in general.

i will die one day. my physical vessel will run out of time and my essence will return to the all.

but no one is forcing me to die. including myself. "takes pull off cigarette"

You are a slave uh oh.

you're perceptions and labels can't be forced on me dog

Veritas do you purposely only bring up the most rudimentary analysis because you dumb it down for netcees or are you a fraud?

Was thinking the same thing. You can do better than this V.

Yes.

The man with no conscious is free. At least in this world. The only thing that held him back was getting caight. He will do what he wants. He said we were bound by concerns that did not concern him.

So although he is mad and although he is locked up....he sees us as the prisoners of ourselves.

But he's a prisoner of himself as well, just in a slightly different way. The shit he's saying doesn't make any sense... Just because he doesn't follow the same laws and morals (which is human made to begin with) it doesn't really do much at all. It takes more than just breaking some rules or kill people to be free. You may get a false sense of freedom, but you're not completely free either way.

Doing whatever he feels like makes him distant from most humans, but it doesn't make him free from the constraints for feeling like doing those things, you see? To be completely free you should have absolutely no desires and it should natural to you to not care about anything because you're free from everything. I'd say a man like that is more free than someone that kills other people and rapes them to feel like he is just because there's laws that tries to stop him from doing it. So, with this in mind we can conclude with the fact that there are varying forms of ''freedom'', right?

It's not so black and white anymore as that prisoner makes it out to be. It doesn't make any sense. ''I'm more free than most others'', sure thing mr. criminal, but you're not completely free afterall, you just think you are and that's fine by me tbh.

The ENTIRE discussion boils down to wether freedom is a state of mind or not. Which it most probably is, but even that is a paradox my man, because in order to figure out what freedom truly is you need something to measure it with, and once we have that shit it isn't complete free either way because in order to be completely free there must be absolutely NOTHING to compare freedom with. Hard to explain but; being free means that there's absolutely no ties to anything whatsofucking ever, so just forget everything you think you know about the human psyche. Your mind is a prison in itself and it'll never be free because your judgement is clouded by influences from other places than yourself. At once you're infected with something like society or connection/bond with another being and/or experienced it sometime in your life, it's impossible to be free.

You could also argue the fact that by him being in jail he's just like EVERYONE else, everyone is free to murder/rape someone, they just choose not too and there's freedom to that as well. Freedom itself bases itself on choices, and if he felt like he didn't have a choice he for sure wasn't free. Dude's a fucking idiot V.

Edit: I'm also curious to what your definition of no conscience means. Is it a personality trait, or just something that can be connected to something that is human made like laws and/or morals which just wouldn't make sense to fit everyone anyways.

Freedom is a state of mind.

He is an idiot as well. He is mad. A psycho.

I just thought his comment was funny and I understood why he would say that.

Then we can conclude with the fact that freedom is based on individual perception and that religious fanatics are most likely more free than he, you and I will ever be. Dude's an idiot.

Edit: Just read your other replies now, lol. Word, I can understand where it came from, but it doesn't hold up. Hopefully dude will find someone to discuss this with so he can get his shit right. Seems like he's mad enough listen to reason. I can see him as a normal man in a few years with the right therapist.

I would also argue that you are free if you can enact your desires without restraint....not not having desires.


But alll the money in the world cant do this if you are still restraining yourself.


This man is a psycho. And dangerous. But free in his mind.

If you have desires you're locked to something and you're no longer free tho'.

But he is a slave to his desires no?

He is...but not in his mind lol.

In his mind being able to do whatever he wants and to do what others are unable to do (rape kill etc)
Makes him free.

He is pure ID in freudian terms gentleman.

Sounds delusional

he is free to act on his own enslavement which got him incarnated forever

rationalization is a bitch