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Witty 04-11-2016 04:17 PM

Where does Snoop go in your list of hip hop greats?
 
I ask because I am personally unsure...pondered it on and off for years.

Obviously he's a legend, but in terms of a list...I honestly don't know where I'd put him.

Inno 04-11-2016 04:28 PM

Where ever you rank cube at.... Put snoop 2 ranks ahead.

Ghost1 04-11-2016 05:01 PM

Top20

Certain 04-11-2016 05:25 PM

Snoop Dogg at his best was better than Ice Cube. But Ice Cube was far more consistent —he's actually still really good, when he raps.

To me, they're the top two from Los Angeles.

Mr. J 04-11-2016 05:47 PM

25 spots higher than Pac


40 spots higher than Em



so somewhere in my top 25

Razah 04-11-2016 07:07 PM

I've never listened to a complete Snoop Dogg album.

*runs away*

Ghost1 04-11-2016 07:19 PM

It's ok if u haven't heard doggystyle....Every1 of ur favorite rappers bit the the shit to death

Barcotic 04-11-2016 10:46 PM

never enjoyed him lyrically but he did have a voice n swag about him that no one could duplicate

Hush 04-11-2016 11:07 PM

Snoop top 10 alive arguably

jilti 04-12-2016 01:44 AM

1990's Young snoop was a beaasssttttt. 2000's + snoop is blah

oats 04-12-2016 03:08 AM

Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time. As a whole, I'd put Snoop in the top 15, maybe higher. Easy to take his crossover appeal for granted, but he's a cultural icon way beyond rap.

Mr. J 04-12-2016 11:51 AM

Doggfather used to be in my walkman all day...

he blends with tracks so smoothly...was listening to 9mm the other day and was like yeeaaaaa

The Ultimate Hater 04-12-2016 01:29 PM

snoops a fucken hustla and a cultural icon..

he more than deserve his place on 'hip hop greats' lists.. even if 90% of his songs are poppy garbage these days you know hes doing what he got to do to survive n keep the cash flowing.

anime_boners 04-12-2016 01:38 PM

and the winner for most "textcee" answer possible is-
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcotic (Post 578447)
never enjoyed him lyrically but he did have a voice n swag about him that no one could duplicate


Aero 04-12-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anime_boners (Post 578535)
and the winner for most "textcee" answer possible is-

LOL

Barcotic 04-12-2016 05:41 PM

nah I just appreciate when guys rhyme more than 1-2 syllables together

snoop wasn't complex like that

Ghost1 04-12-2016 06:07 PM

Smh

Certain 04-12-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 578483)
Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time.

If we take out groups and solo debuts by rappers who were in groups, I'd have it as the best non-New York debut album, probably, maybe.

These are my top 10 debut albums that fit into that category (solo rapper who wasn't previously in a group that released an album):

1. Nas, Illmatic
2. Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die
3. Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt
4. O.C., Word ... Life
5. Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
6. Big Pun, Capital Punishment
7. Snoop Doggy Dogg, DoggyStyle
8. Young Jeezy, Let’s Get It: Thug Motivation 101
9. Redman, Whut? Thee Album
10. 50 Cent, Get Rich or Die Tryin'

(Note: I counted Infinite as Eminem's debut and Section.80 as Kendrick Lamar's debut.)

Obviously, my taste swings toward the East Coast. I don't have a problem with someone having DoggyStyle at or nearer to the top of that list. But I will say that putting DoggyStyle above The Chronic seems like a stretch.

Mr. J 04-12-2016 06:26 PM

Get these reps for Thug Motivation

Ghost1 04-12-2016 06:47 PM

Section. 80 was dope tho....maybe not top 10 tho

Also WORD to thug motivation. That shit still slaps.

jilti 04-12-2016 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 578483)
Doggystyle is arguably the best rap debut all time. As a whole, I'd put Snoop in the top 15, maybe higher. Easy to take his crossover appeal for granted, but he's a cultural icon way beyond rap.

Agreed. Think about all the hype and anticipation for his debut album after the chronic. Not only did he live up to it, he surpassed what people expected of it

oats 04-12-2016 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcotic (Post 578567)
nah I just appreciate when guys rhyme more than 1-2 syllables together

snoop wasn't complex like that

Multis: Barcotic
Punches: Tie
Wordplay: Snoop edges it
Flow: Snoop
Vote: Snoop

oats 04-12-2016 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 578572)
If we take out groups and solo debuts by rappers who were in groups, I'd have it as the best non-New York debut album, probably, maybe.

These are my top 10 debut albums that fit into that category (solo rapper who wasn't previously in a group that released an album):

1. Nas, Illmatic
2. Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die
3. Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt
4. O.C., Word ... Life
5. Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
6. Big Pun, Capital Punishment
7. Snoop Doggy Dogg, DoggyStyle
8. Aceyalone, All Balls Don't Bounce
9. Young Jeezy, Let’s Get It: Thug Motivation 101
10. Redman, Whut? Thee Album

(Note: I counted Infinite as Eminem's debut and Section.80 as Kendrick Lamar's debut.)

Obviously, my taste swings toward the East Coast. I don't have a problem with someone having DoggyStyle at or nearer to the top of that list. But I will say that putting DoggyStyle above The Chronic seems like a stretch.

man, I still haven't been able to get a hold of All Balls Don't Bounce. Couldn't find it on torrents like a year or so ago when you mentioned it.

but yeah, I'd put it behind Nas and Biggie for sure, personally I like it better than Reasonable Doubt since Hov was riding off the established NY classicism of Illmatic and Ready to Die (not to say RD was derivative, just not groundbreaking). You could say that about Doggystyle vis a vis The Chronic, but I'd disagree. The Chronic established the west coast stylistically, but Doggystyle perfected it - I think it's aged a lot better than The Chronic tbh.

Barcotic 04-12-2016 07:35 PM

lol funny

what, I can't not like snoop?

it's not like I don't listen to other rappers. snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

I prefer others, so suck a dick

Certain 04-12-2016 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 578581)
man, I still haven't been able to get a hold of All Balls Don't Bounce. Couldn't find it on torrents like a year or so ago when you mentioned it.

but yeah, I'd put it behind Nas and Biggie for sure, personally I like it better than Reasonable Doubt since Hov was riding off the established NY classicism of Illmatic and Ready to Die (not to say RD was derivative, just not groundbreaking). You could say that about Doggystyle vis a vis The Chronic, but I'd disagree. The Chronic established the west coast stylistically, but Doggystyle perfected it - I think it's aged a lot better than The Chronic tbh.

The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

Mr. J 04-12-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcotic (Post 578584)
lol funny
snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

How do you make it through the day with these observational skills

Barcotic 04-12-2016 07:50 PM

smh w/e yo

oats 04-12-2016 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 578585)
The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

on point.

@Barcotic I said you had the better multis and tied for punches, wasn't a hate vote or anything.

uh-oh 04-12-2016 08:31 PM

Snoop is like 13th on my all time list if i had one

Mike Wrecka 04-12-2016 08:56 PM

Snoop had one great album. The rest can be classified as good to horrible. He does have a shit load of really incredible guest appearances tho

Mr. J 04-12-2016 11:43 PM

Snoop cemented himself as a leading influence in Hip Hop though....
















fa shizzle my nizzle cooking with Martha Stewrizzle

Certain 04-13-2016 04:26 PM

@quaker oats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VgSxJkaC-A

But I realized I'm an idiot for including it on the list because Aceyalone had made two albums with Freestyle Fellowship.

oats 04-13-2016 09:35 PM

you da man, thanks.

Hush 04-14-2016 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 578579)
Multis: Barcotic
Punches: Tie
Wordplay: Snoop edges it
Flow: Snoop
Vote: Snoop

Dead

Saitama 04-14-2016 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 578585)
The Chronic was more G, DoggyStyle was more Funk.

More influential than Barcotic vs ill Nika circa 2011?

anime_boners 04-14-2016 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcotic (Post 578584)
it's not like I don't listen to other rappers. snoop just rhymes blue w/ poo n gets away w/ it cuz of his swag n voice

ppl aren't roasting you for not liking snoop, so much as the reasoning behind it

like.. you say he "gets away" with simple rhymes because his voice and his swag (there's more to it than that, that makes him dope). but to be quite honest all the things that make snoop dope are more important to hip hop than his ability to make complex rhyme schemes.

gimme music with vibe and personality over any of them monotone lyrical miracle cats any day.

and I like underground/indie hip hop too. I fuck with a lot of "lyricist" type rappers. but they music has to have a vibe to it. and multies and punchlines for the sake of multis n punchlines gets old quick.

there's no wrong opinion tho here tho, nahmean. to each their own, diffrint strokes, etc.

Certain 04-14-2016 02:56 PM

Quote:

Thinking of a master plan
Cause ain’t nothing but sweat inside my hand
So I dig into my pocket, all my money spent
So I dig deeper, but still coming up with lint
So I start my mission, leave my residence
Thinking how could I get some dead presidents
I need money, I used to be a stick-up kid
So I think of all the devious things I did
I used to roll up, this is a hold up, ain’t nothing funny
Stop smiling, be still, don’t nothing move but the money
But now I learned to earn cause I’m righteous
I feel great so maybe I might just search for a 9 to 5
If I strive then maybe I’ll stay alive
So I walk up the street, whistling this
Feeling out of place cause, man, do I miss
A pen and a paper, a stereo, a tape of
Me and Eric B and a nice big plate of
This, which is my favorite dish
But without no money it’s still a wish
Cause I don’t like to dream about getting paid
So I dig into the books of the rhymes that I made
So now's a test to see if I got pull
Hit the studio, cause I’m paid in full
"Trash one-syllable rhyming." —Barcotic

Mr. J 04-14-2016 03:01 PM

thats obviously Rakim @Certain

Certain 04-14-2016 03:07 PM

Doesn't change my point.

Mr. J 04-14-2016 03:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ


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