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Dominate 02-12-2016 05:14 AM

Today I learned that the Bible claims π = 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 Kings 7:23 King James Version

And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

Here is a cool picture to help understand what its describing:

https://dwillis1957.files.wordpress....1/pi.jpg?w=497

It's saying the diameter of the circle at the surface is 10 cubits, and that the circumference of the circle is 30 cubits. (The 5 cubits is the depth, but that's irrelevant.)

So, according to this, the ratio of the circle's circumference to its diameter is 30/10 = 3.

However, its been known for a long time that the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is 3.14159... (it's an irrational number, the decimals continue forever without any pattern).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#History

I found this fascinating, and I hope you did too.

Dominate 02-12-2016 05:15 AM

I see this as further proof that the bible was written by man, not inspired by god.

Religious folks have come up with a bunch of explanations to get around this. I'm expecting Veritas to come in with one. So, V - at least concede that this is further proof that the obvious interpretation of the bible isn't always the correct one, and that we should let science/reason guide us towards a correct interpretation.

Ghost1 02-12-2016 06:35 AM

So this how we will be spending Friday here at Netcees huh. Veritas to thread. Let's get the show started.

ill nik-A 02-12-2016 06:46 AM

Roflz

Useless 02-12-2016 08:53 AM

And ur wrong lol.

"ten cubits from the one brim to the other" = Length

"and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." = diameter

veritas 02-12-2016 08:55 AM

So...God built it? Or did Hiram out of Tyre?

Destroyer 02-12-2016 10:43 AM

I think it was brienne of tarth

Witty 02-12-2016 10:45 AM

I legit don't understand anything itt.

~RustyGunZ~ 02-12-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 566783)
I think it was brienne of tarth

Repped

veritas 02-12-2016 11:32 AM

@Dominate

Adonis 02-12-2016 11:34 AM

I would think "round about" means approximate.


Either way who cares, the original text was not penned in English and has been translated numerous times, possibly wrong. God can suck my cock

Ghost1 02-12-2016 01:38 PM

Lmao sheesh was the last part nec? Good grief.

Inno 02-12-2016 01:41 PM

Lmao

veritas 02-12-2016 01:51 PM

@Dominate

veritas 02-12-2016 01:51 PM

@Strikta

Diode 02-12-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 566783)
I think it was brienne of tarth

u may have these reps.

veritas 02-12-2016 03:09 PM

@Dominate

Dominate 02-12-2016 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless (Post 566756)
And ur wrong lol.

"ten cubits from the one brim to the other" = Length

"and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." = diameter

You're wrong. Google it. But even if you were right, that would mean pi = 1/3, which is even further away from being correct.

V, the problem is not with the workmanship, it's with the description which is supposedly divinely inspired and therefore should be 100% accurate. The description is of a circle with a circumference to diameter ratio of 3, which is mathematically impossible.

Saint 02-12-2016 09:47 PM

To suggest that the figures are somehow wrong, is to assume the vessel was perfectly round, which the Bible does not state.

Dope girl 02-12-2016 10:06 PM

Reading bible is awesome help ya life get better

veritas 02-12-2016 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiltration (Post 566857)
To suggest that the figures are somehow wrong, is to assume the vessel was perfectly round, which the Bible does not state.

This.

But also:


Did God built it or did the man Solomon hire @Dominate ?

Dominate 02-13-2016 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiltration (Post 566857)
To suggest that the figures are somehow wrong, is to assume the vessel was perfectly round, which the Bible does not state.

Like an ellipse, perhaps?

Sure, that's one out. But look at how much detail there is describing every last thing in the preceding and succeeding verses. It'd be out of place for the shape to be something else and not be better described, IMO. "Round all about" would be assumed to be a circle without further detail. For example, an ellipse would need two measurements across, so it might say ten cubits from one brim to the other in one direction, and five cubits from one brim to the other in the other.

But even if it wasn't meant to be a circle, it's unclear from the description given, so it goes back to my point - science/reason is sometimes required to interpret the bible correctly.

V I already addressed your point in my last post.

Saitama 02-13-2016 04:42 AM

There's actually a simpler explanation.
Since this wasn't an engineer's report, nobody thought that exact measurement was necessary.

oats 02-13-2016 07:31 AM

yooooo, who wrote new testament=torah fanfic? come get this rep

Meth 02-13-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless (Post 566756)
And ur wrong lol.

"ten cubits from the one brim to the other" = Length

"and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." = diameter

Facepalm.gif

veritas 02-13-2016 11:18 AM

@Dominate

Did God build it or did a man?

big baby 02-13-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker oats (Post 566914)
yooooo, who wrote new testament=torah fanfic? come get this rep

bb did

veritas 02-13-2016 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big baby (Post 566956)
bb did

How was this last stay at the psych ward?

big baby 02-13-2016 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigger Jim (Post 566865)
Did God built it@Dominate ?


Ghost1 02-13-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big baby (Post 566956)
bb did

Still claiming my tags. Shame on u mustachio.

Dominate 02-13-2016 03:37 PM

V - is the Bible God's word or man's?

veritas 02-13-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominate (Post 566981)
V - is the Bible God's word or man's?

Did the Bible say that God built it or that a man did?

Coup 02-13-2016 08:34 PM

Straining a nat and swallowing a camel

Allen Knight 02-13-2016 09:36 PM

the fuck.

veritas 02-13-2016 09:58 PM

@Dominate

Dominate 02-13-2016 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominate (Post 566981)
V - is the Bible God's word or man's?

@Nigger Jim

veritas 02-13-2016 11:36 PM

Did the Bible say the God built it or did man?
@Dominate

Dominate 02-14-2016 06:34 AM

Is the bible god's word or man's? @Nigger Jim

veritas 02-14-2016 11:14 AM

Once again, you answer me first. Because I asked you first.

Did the Bible say God built it>? Or did it say that Solomon hired a man to build it?
@Dominate

Destroyer 02-14-2016 11:26 AM

jesus, this is boring
stop with your bullshit proselytizing, V
go to like a bible board or something you fucking weirdo


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