Should racism be accepted in battles ?
 

Srs

If used a punch, why not? Punches are supposed to be mean, insulting and offensive. Purpose of battling.

Maybe text battlers shouldn't be so sensitive.

Just my opinion that doesn't matter.

@Cashius

Racism belonging in txt battles is like saying sour cream belongs on any type of food

Not acceptable imo

To a degree
To those wondering where to draw the line, see @Cashius

I think Vic said it best already.

If u wouldnt say it in a live battle, dont say it in a text battle.

I think that should be the line, imo.

There is a obvious line between stereotypes and blatant racism

Oh, for fucks sake.

Should bigotry? What about insulting someone’s mother? Fine? Sister. Fine? Children? Uhhh IDK. Yes. Fuck your children, face, race, shoes, financial situation, relationships, personality.

Racists that go out of their way to hate and hinder are one thing. This is a fucking rap battle. Think I’m going to go battle somewhere and not have my race mentioned? Pfft.

I guess my thoughts are that it should be allowed as long as it still receives votes

applying the racist approach is a gamble....if utilized to the correct degree as destroyer indicated it can be successful....if done in excess see cashius summer classic example

I feel like voting trends should determine acceptability

the idea that u wouldn't say something to someone in person is based on the environment you would be placing yourself in...........if the environment of nc gives safe haven to racism then the user is right in utilizing it in the same sense that if an in person environment were lets say.......a giant group of white people......the user would most certainly feel comfortable using racism....strength in numbers and consensus...and the same vice versa............find any single battle where a white guy isn't battling a black guy and doesn't immediately get called out for being white

as long as nc continues to accept racist perspectives and promote that type of environment based on voting trends I think it is perfectly acceptable

I personally don't think that it is something we should be promoting but I think concepts should live or die in the free market arena with regard to the environment that we establish in our community as the backdrop/

Was gonna post this basicallly but didn’t want to type it out

Thanks Bags

Yeah basically nothing should be allowed or not allowed it simply should be subject to consequences to your success

Like dull boy stated if we allow one thing that is extremely personally offensive and not another than it’s a slippery slope.

No censoring. Battling is in its nature politically incorrect and amoral.

When I said accepted I meant in the community

Never do I think it should be a DQable offense

Racism shouldn't be accepted with in the social side of the community. The area outside of battling.

But battling - anything is acceptable. That's why it's called a battle. Don't want to be called a N word or S word or faggot then don't battle.

Punches should be just that a PUNCH. Not a pat on the back or censored because the opponent is too sensitive. Man up or don't battle.

I don't battle because I don't want to be called a "spic" or the common reach "wetback" anymore.

Racism against what race?
Because black people I’m gonna say no, but Indians??? Yeah

Then there isn’t a definitive answer, everyone is different.

In regards to the bar you’re talking about, he didn’t need to say spic but it was a part of the punch. He could have said Puerto Rican/Hispanic etc.

I have never seen that word as offensive as nigger so I would have not thought anything of that bar if you didn’t say anything (albeit a badly worded bar anyway lol)

this is a problem too

I think as a community we are trending away from racism but some of it is deeply engrained into the site

I think in a community we’re making fun of family members, dead and alive, and other social and life altering personals it’s pretty insane to say not taking the word spic that seriously by default is as cancerous as not taking it seriously by default

Spic and nigger are equally offensive, dude wtf lol.

How?

And if so explain how it wasn’t offensive than for you and others to call me a kyke for years?

I agree getting away from the insanely personal attacks based on shock value is something we should have long since disposed of honestly

without thinking hard at all......zelphs punch about des wife miscarrying wasn't overly clever but it hit hard because its like WOW cant believe someone would say that

we need to be getting back to the bars and away from shock tactics

Honestly it’s not fair

Don't think I ever called you a kyke, tho lol.

And if I did... You must have initiated it by calling me a spic or wetback, lol.

Regardless of who called who what, it was wrong.

But if it's in a verse - then there is no holding back.

Idea is to annihilate your opponent and pummel them with punches not swarm them with slaps and pats on the back.

If you offended your opponent in any way - then you did your job as a battler.

Well isn’t knuck not Jewish?
So, calling him kyke shouldn’t matter because it’s not real, no?

Wrong


The battlers job is to win

I forgot his persona not him was jewish, lol... And wealthy.

That too, so yea you right.

Next u will tell me @Aero is not black

word being offensive should not be the end all goal of battles....its a dark trend away from where the culture originated

battles used to be about showcasing skill now theyre about derogatory shock tactics centered around prejudice and ignorance

I be bored af these days reading verses filled with deeply invasive personal attacks on members of our community in battles

its bad energy....hip hop was built to uplift not tear down

its still possible to show case talent without the aforementioned approaches

Think of it like stand up comedy

Blatant hate is never funny

If its dope its dope

Id need examples tho

Is it funny? Is it just something blatantly retarded like lynch this mooncricket, devoid of humor and meant to be racist? Which should still be allowed but obviously be frowned upon by voters

If its a humorous attempt involving stereotypes or whatever id be all for it. Whatever race

Again it depends, because if there is a joke than id be for it. But blatant hate in itself isnt funny because there isnt a joke involved.

If i dont personally find it funny, even if it offends me but i can see that its done as a joke than i dont have a problem with it at all

It would be the same for battling, if its an ATTEMPT that misses im still for it because the intent was to be funny. But if there is no attempt at being humorous and its just slurs and hate than fuck that

@Hush
@Amen

Out of curiosity my light skinned bretheren

As Latinos of the specific carribbean region. which is known for being triacially mixed between african,native and white. Do you feel just as offended when the n word/slavery is used.

As I've said you carribbean Latinos unlike Hispanics from central America whom are predominately mestizo (native and white mixed only). Are more like me a mulatto then what the average nonwhite Mexican or Costa rican is.

Always been curious, your average rican and dominican are quadroons or mulatto with some native blending.

Do those kind of slave punches bother you like it does us?

You clearly missed the post where I said it was wrong regardless.

But ok.

Words do not bother me in a text battle. To my face, is a different story. But I've never let text bother me.

Words do not bother me. Intentions do.

Within a battle the intention is to win. Much in the way that homosexual men, for instance, can call each other fags, it's not okay, in their mind, for someone else to say that to them. That's about intent. Do you want to be hurtful, or are you just being clever and trying to win? That's the deciding factor.

I've tried to shield myself from all destructive outside opinions so that words and even some people's intentions, in my personal life, do not have any negative meaning to me. What's coming out of someone's mouth has zero to do with me, and everything to do with what they think.

Racism and it's place in a battle has to do with a social war. If you believe allowing someone to disrespect your race gives racists more freedom to be outwardly hateful then I can see where you could be 'offended'. It's not that individual you're battling that you necessarily have an issue with, but that the content of what that person is saying means within the social war you believe you're fighting.

It bothers me equally


I speak out against it the same way


Every time

No,

Look what’s allowed now.

Blacks can say what ever they feel like saying to white battlers and no one takes offense. Let a white boy say nigger in his verse once.

That’s why no, it will never be equal or fair.

Why bother practicing racism when irl you getting punched in your shit before your creative juices will be fully formed.

No censorship. Say whatever you want and live with the consequences.