I had a response typed a couple weeks ago that because they'd gotten off the books, I felt that they were literally just giving us everything we wanted. Y'all just wanted to use cool internet lingo to describe it. We still don't know what Cersei has planned and that's going to be the big reveal next week. It won't be Jon that dies, you can't kill someone, bring them back to life, and fake kill them 20 times after just to really kill them again. I'm thinking Dany dies and Jon finds out his parentage and takes up her army in a love fueled revenge and that's all season 8 will be. Jon just waging was on everyone.

Or the alliance sticks and all S8 will just be the ice and fire war.

Tarly for the throne 2018

this story does not have a happy ending. don't forget dany's dream.

it better not have a happy ending... that would directly contradict every thing that has happened.

but honestly

you go north of the wall to capture a wight... and they don't attack you because the ice is breaking, in a place where you die from the cold? and someone runs all the way to the wall, sends a raven all the way across westeros, and 3 dragons fly back all the way across westeros and north of the wall. all in less than a days time? and they are all just sitting there because they could fall in the water?

that may be the shittiest piece of writing you could imagine. and they decide that okay now its time because the hound throws a rock that doesn't break the ice...

While we're playing that game, dragons and wights exist in the first place. Trying to analyze a TV show beyond it's entertainment purposes is futile.

It was a cool spectacle to witness IMO.

I'm just wondering how bad GRRM has to facepalm every episode now.

GRRM advises them on every episode and gave them the outline they are using to wrap it up, so...

no he doesn't, he hasn't been involved with the show in years

but he did give them the entire outline basically of where everything was heading, each characters endings etc. how they go about everything is their own creative choice though

but word the books will only be different in the sense they aren't rushed and have way more characters so everything will be more interesting, but he's said he's not changing anything just because the show passed him. he doesn't care if you know plot outcomes, he compared it to his favorite books and shit. you can know the outcomes but the telling of the tale is still enjoyable

so the ending we get in the show will not be different than the books at all basically. like diode said the entire story was given to them. not just david benioff and db weiss or whatever, but directors who were on the set back when he was too. he was a loose lipped woman apparently

This is incorrect on a basic level.

The show still has to obey its internal logic. You're arguing a false equivalency. Fantasy elements =/= abandonment of logic. There were still wights and dragons when it took Jon and his group hours/days to arrive where they found their wight. There were still wights and dragons when the precedent for ravens taking more than a handful of hours to arrive at their destination was set. When the show abandons those precedents it is, indeed, a mistake that should be noted.

Ok time travel exists in GoT then. Make you feel better?

My comments were more directed at Millz trying to use physics to explain a fantasy show. Specifically about the ice and Jon not dying of hypothermia.


The fast travel could only be a mild pet peeve at most tho.

You're not very bright.

Understatement of the millennium.

Nah.. her dream represents Jon Snow ruling hence the snow on the ground, her being dead, and the reason being is my lil homie Bran will get powerful enough to control the night king.

Or, you're the stupid one.

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dope episode.

Word

The aegon thing is weird to me but i can let it slide i guess.

I need winds of winter and a dream of spring ASAP

Yeah theyre all gonna die

Brandon the builder ftw

If the name thing is true, and I believe it too big to not be accurate with the book, that essentially seals the deal of Jon being the prince who was promised. Based off of the vision Dany had with Rhaegar and Aegon.

This.