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Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 01:21 PM

this was tldr but my personal oppinion is

its not murder

but not not guilty

more manslaughter or even involuntary manslaughter

he went out of his duties of a neighborhood watch patrol the second he left the vehicle, after police instructed him not to, and then followed (exhibited stalking behavior) and engaged the suspect. Moreover, he brought his weapon; if he intended on it being a peaceful confrontation, why stalk and bring weaponry...he shoulda abbrubtly yelled @ martin and alerted him of his presence to stop any 'illegal' activity that could have occurred; but i dont think he premeditated it at all, just didnt think it through,.

veritas 07-15-2013 01:25 PM

Did nothing illegal.

Case closed.

Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 01:27 PM

But as a watch officer u r NEVER supposed to engage

n police told him not to

veritas 07-15-2013 01:44 PM

Still not illegal to do so.

Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 01:56 PM

stalking is illegal

veritas 07-15-2013 02:00 PM

he did not stalk. he followed. not illegal.

Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 02:05 PM

i always describe the diff between the 2 is the prospect of engaging...if ur following ur doing that...but if ur stalking, u following with intentions to engage or attack... its more animalistic in its nature. @VERITAS

veritas 07-15-2013 02:09 PM

I get your point but it is still a fail sir.

You cant prove that. All you can prove is that he followed. Case closed.

Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 02:11 PM

word..fuckin intentions tricky little things.

veritas 07-15-2013 02:15 PM

yup.

so let us conclude. that we cannot know the mans heart. we can look at the facts. we cannot know treyvons heart either. only the facts of the case.

color is irrelevant. emotion is irrelevant. agenda is irrelevent.

Zimmerman did nothing illegal and was attacked. he engaged in self defense. innocent until proven guilty. you cannot prove his intent had hatred or malice.

CASE CLOSED.

Rawn M.D. 07-15-2013 02:19 PM

word.

detour 07-15-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Of War (Post 96172)
and if you put your hands on him over a verbal conflict and he shot you it would be self defense yet again

self defense is the perceived threat of a danger to ur safety...whether they hit u yet or not, that doesn't matter legally...

if there's a dude followin me around creeper status with a gun, i'm-a feel threatened...therefore, if i beat his ass, it'd be in self-defense...

unfortunately, the prosecution went for 2nd degree murder when that wasn't the right charge to go after...

also, the big reason zimmerman got off is cuz trayvon wasn't around to testify...HOW FUCKING CONVENIENT YO...

King Karaoke 07-15-2013 09:16 PM

hi...

I fucks with Detour yo...
and all jokes aside he beat Diz...

Bye....

NYCSPITZ 07-15-2013 09:19 PM

zimmerman is a pussy


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