You believe your self an astute debater and yet have insulted and diminished the intellect of those you debate with to close most of your arguments - it’s a fair technique however I will call you on it - it’s the car salesmen technique where you attack someone’s self esteem an downgrade them as someone with an opinion then answer the question directly that was given you

I did ask you more then once to define the point you were making without trying to railroad me (as I was smart enough to deduct that was said plan) with your point

Define the point of what? Last thing you said was woman don't have control over mens bodies, I asked why

I need to tell you where I'm going with asking that question before you do?

Learn to play 4D chess or get off the checkerboard pal

i don't understand your question but that's probably because you missed my point

i'm very far from someone who 'holds signs for a living' lol come on bro

i was saying you have a terrible opinion of why abortion bills are passed just like you have a terrible opinion of venezuela which i gathered from you calling maduro a communist in the bernie thread which is also filled with terrible opinions from you

seth do you advocate for any demographic other than unborn fetuses?

tbc i'm saying demographic because you consider them lives

I advocate for life in general

Though I don't pay into the libertarian party anymore since it's been infected I still hold the beliefs that led me to them in 2008, that everyone deserves absolute freedom AS LONG AS IT DOESNT HURT OTHERS

Since I consider, (scientifically not religiously) that fetuses are lives 6 days after conception and once implantation is achieved, I consider abortion to be murder

Are you saying I think we're getting involved with Venezuela because f communist?

If so no

It's for dem oils? fucking duh?

can you elaborate? when you say you "advocate for life in general" what does that mean?

you defend everything's right, to be alive? do you go beyond that ever? and do you advocate for life of non-humans? frozen embryos in fertility clinics? those get discarded quite often, no? do you care if an animal fetus is aborted? why or why not?

and after whichever of those that you choose to advocate for do in fact make it to this life(thanks for the work you do to help get them here), what other rights of theirs do you advocate for? clearly "absolute freedom" doesn't come for everyone in the system we're born into, so when the freedoms they deserve are curbed, do you advocate for them? if so, can you give examples?

lastly, do you believe that the foster system is a good upholder of absolute freedom for the babies that will end up there after their mother is forced to carry to term? if not, why would you support a law that will most definitely send them there? especially when we know the high rates of depression, suicide, mental illness, drug addiction, and criminality from children that have gone through this system?

do you think maduro is a communist?

I’ll settle this over a game
Of chess if your willing

this is loaded so give me a minute, I do not take you as a PancakeBrah style troll so I assume you'd welcome me actually addressing each point seriously

send me an invite needs to be an iphone game tho

Seth desperate.

Yo you know I’m drunk - also you know I get your opinion - but competitive an very good at chess I’ll dischord you Ona. Game tomorrow at work

no he's a socialist

literally part of the socialist party? I'm gonna need to take a page out of flows book and ask where you're trying to go with this

take your time

sounds good

I'm having intelligent conversations with people

You literally spend 2x the amount of time posting on here as me on a regular basis to lie about how cool/macho/not beta you are when no one asked in the first place

Go kick your kids in the ankles some more gotta get that NFL draft 2028

fixed it

so, you misspoke or weren't educated on the topic yet?