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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Science is determined off of data. Or evidence, as you call it.

Correct. We're off to a good start!

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Opinions come from data.

Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

So if a scientist makes an opinion off of data, does that make his opinion a fact? Just because he is a scientist?

No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Help me understand your concerns here.

Mostly about how you manage to function in life.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Like I previously stated, I've heard people have died from withdrawals but have never seen any date nor have applied effort to look. So as far as I'm concerned; it's hear say until I can see some data with my own eyes proving these claims.

I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

that's all I'm saying.

All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Numbers do not lie.

You haven't even looked at numbers!

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

The people imputing them numbers have the potential to lie or exacerbate. How do we not know, the person imputing those numbers weren't hung over or potentially entered in the wrong number?

This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

I guess i'm getting in to conspiracy and probability now, LOL.

Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Plus, I've also heard, withdrawals from Benzo's are probably the worst withdrawals PROVEN. But again, haven't seen nor do I care to research data proving these claims.

I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Opinions are opinions.

Novel thought.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Facts are facts.

And you avoid them.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

In the end, who really gives a shit? A drug addict is a drug addict.

But I thought it was all mental?

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Wtf was the original topic about anyways?

A little worried about your memory loss.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598268)

Addiction being mental or physical, right? HA.

No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

LOL, certainly persistent.

Looks like I took an L here.

Your humility will bring you reps.

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Originally Posted by Strikta (Post 598138)

Is that all ud write for??

I kinda need prometh/codiene cough syrup, MSContin 30/60/100mg ER, or Morphine 15/30 IR. Could use some Demerol tablets too if u could write for those? I found a cpl from my uncles tooth extractions in the early 2000s.. they were expired for like 10 years but were still quite effective. Unlike any other opiate I've tried. Also could use some T3s & tramadol if ud be more comfortable w/ that?

No pain management clinic will take my insurance right now for some reason.

Dude I got pain issues & horrible bronchitis dog.. I can show u MRIs & all that.

I'd say just write me 300 roxicodone 30s but pharmacies barely carry roxis anymore. :/

lmao no wonder you cried when I called Geno out on his subutex use

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 598269)

Correct. We're off to a good start!

Well, good opinions can be rooted in data, but yours are not. As you literally said a few posts up, you have not looked at data.

No, scientists don't draw opinions off data. They draw conclusions that are then checked by dozens of other labs and scientists in peer-reviewed formats. Nothing is verified until the peer reviews are complete.

Mostly about how you manage to function in life.

I'm guessing you've also never seen any data proving you need oxygen to breathe. So, I assume that's hearsay, too.

All you're saying is that you refuse to get informed on a topic that you choose to have opinions about.

You haven't even looked at numbers!

This is fucking absurd. For one, the numbers inputted are vetted over and over again by scientists.

Nah, you're getting into justifying your own inadequacy.

I just provided a link to research to show that alcohol withdrawal is worse.

Novel thought.

And you avoid them.

But I thought it was all mental?

A little worried about your memory loss.

No because it's both. Inarguably. As proven. By thousands of scientists across the world. You just are too ignorant to look it up.

Idk if I love certain for this or infinitely hate amen more for this ha

Reps for certain regardless

Ether

i've looked at the data bros. i've got the documents (alex jones voice)

heroin withdrawals will not kill you as long as you are remotely taking care of yourself, or being taken care of. people die from heroin withdrawals because they commit suicide because of the misery of it, and people die from dehydration and other illnesses that come along with puking your guts out and sweating etc. its miserable, no ones disputing that. but saying you die from quitting heroin is like saying you die from getting the flu. yea sure its possible duh. but keep hydrated and ride out the shit storm.

no ones disputing that people have died from quitting cold turkey, but its not from the heroin itself, its from not taking care of yourself. when you look at alcohol withdrawals, you can be in a hospital enviornment receiving good care and still die from withdrawals. that is the point i was making. the alcoholism kills you from quitting cold turkey. not dehydration. you get actual sicknesses related to the alcohol

also diode if someone ever uttered the word insufflating in actual speech i would spit in their nerd face. just say snorting like an american you boob

Once again.....as the professional here who actually deals with this and is not just googling....addiction is the total package affecting body brain mind and spirit. And yes people can die if not detoxed properly.

Amen admitted he was wrong. He learned. /thread

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Originally Posted by veritas (Post 598291)

I've actually dealt with it too, I didn't use Google.

But yeah I can respect a man admitting he got something wrong, we all do sometimes, no shame in it.

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Originally Posted by bonKerz (Post 598270)

LOL, certainly persistent.

Looks like I took an L here.

You definitely took the L fam but I'm surprised you admitted such. I appreciate this. Still not going to prevent me from producing a punch designed for your stomach but it's a start.

hahahahaha you should quickly seek treatment

Keep replying to this thread watch

Should have never upped it smh

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Originally Posted by james (Post 598318)

hahahahaha you should quickly seek treatment

Who could possibly swim at the depths of stupidity required to even imagine this alias would be funny?

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Originally Posted by Aero (Post 598315)

You definitely took the L fam but I'm surprised you admitted such. I appreciate this. Still not going to prevent me from producing a punch designed for your stomach but it's a start.

I'd dismantle you in a fair game of hand to hand combat, my friend.