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Objective 09-03-2014 02:07 AM

I'm the worst battler on the site, sign me up.

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395488)
I prefer expensive fusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhkPSEXs1Q

one of the best bass players i've ever seen, with those tiny female hands... with Jeff Beck... just wait till it gets to her bass solo -- there is another link of them in a more private show where she goes off and its like W T F:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blp7hPFaIfU

Certain 09-03-2014 02:55 AM

You can see her nipple. Is her nipple jazz?

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395666)
You can see her nipple. Is her nipple jazz?

yeah it gets hard when she solo's. Isn't that insane?

I dunno if you can really consider that link jazz... but fusion probly?

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 03:08 AM

This link is a far better performance (especially by her). Its like Jeff Beck is trying to have sex with her with his guitar, and then she does her bass solo and looks and him like "What, bitch", and then what he plays after that can't touch her solo because he already blew his load.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

I could watch that bass solo over and over until I need to masturbate, lol.

Sharp 09-03-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theMuzzl3 (Post 395615)
A lot of jazz is pre-written, meaning the songs have been written and performed as per the way they were lain out.

Free form jazz is similar, in the manner that musicians can use the classical bass lines, solo's and over all structure, but its a free for all --- its a jam session where its kind of like call & response. Its funny though, if someone fucks up and hits the wrong key like super loud and does a whole knew riff by mistake, than skilled musicians can go back to the riff they were on and mesh them together, as if it was on purpose.

so this was mostly pre-written? because there's no way this is free-form since there is a form and harmony that goes with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4GRTGVBwAU


also what is a classical bass line

Certain 09-03-2014 01:20 PM

Ron Carter, isn't he mostly famous for being on that A Tribe Called Quest song?

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharp Nine (Post 395858)
so this was mostly pre-written? because there's no way this is free-form since there is a form and harmony that goes with it


yeah, the link with Jeff Beck and Tal Wilkenfeld is pretty close to pre-written... but you can tell the difference between her solo in the small stage act vs the big crowd (it was even shorter /w the big crowd). Also, Jeff Beck does a lot of harmonics on the guitar which are hard to replicate.

I mean, I can play 1,4,5 on the keys, on any note... but when you bring feeling into the music, its a whole nother story.

To add a further reply (edit), form and harmony do go with free form jazz, it just allows the players more freedom of expression IMO. You'd have to see some really good free jazz jams to understand... my words can't say shit.

One band (whom the leader of the band, I jammed with Elvis jazz jam on tuesdays a few times) is Uberschall. Six dudes from the blueman group, and 3 drum sets set up in front of the 2 guitar & 1 bass amp (very unique set up). Watching the band live with the drummers flowing back and forth is a life changing event (if you like jazz, but you might need earplugs).

Free form doesn't mean no form. IMHO, it just means more freedom within communicating with the other musicians, within some form.




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Originally Posted by Sharp Nine (Post 395858)
also what is a classical bass line

Classical bass line, I can say very little about. I never studied classical music all though I appreciate a lot of it. I'd guess that its played within a written structure, and the medium thats playing the bass has a small ability to add their own playing style to it.

A video of Evelyn Glennie explaining sound and structure, and freedom of expression... says a lot. I'll dig up the link just in case you're willing to view it, but its quite long.... maybe I'll point out the (minute:seconds) marks that you should check out.

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 02:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3V6zNER4g

basically the 1:30 mark till the 5 minute mark.

This chick lost 99% of her hearing through the ears by 9 years old, and everyone told her she couldn't be a musician. Long story short, she's now world famous and has proven several points about what sound is, how to interpret it, and how to feel & respond to it.

Sharp 09-03-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by theMuzzl3 (Post 395904)
To add a further reply (edit), form and harmony do go with free form jazz, it just allows the players more freedom of expression IMO. You'd have to see some really good free jazz jams to understand... my words can't say shit.
.

so free form jazz has form and harmony and by not playing on the page you are playing free jazz?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395860)
Ron Carter, isn't he mostly famous for being on that A Tribe Called Quest song?

He did something else??!!?

Certain 09-03-2014 03:59 PM

I don't know. I don't care about bassists. Irrelevant instrument, generally.

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharp Nine (Post 395964)
so free form jazz has form and harmony and by not playing on the page you are playing free jazz?

***edit***

not necessarily 'not playing on the page', but giving the artist room to interpret it... but a lot of the time, there is no page. Thats the best jazz IMO.


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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395972)
I don't know. I don't care about bassists. Irrelevant instrument, generally.

bass basically lays down the backbone of hip hop, all though its usually a synth bass... that could easily be a bass guitar or other bass instrument as well.

Certain 09-03-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theMuzzl3 (Post 395984)
I have no idea what you're talking about.

You also have no idea what you are talking about.

Sharp 09-03-2014 04:51 PM

wait

no page

but form and harmony?


and i dont know i can never really hear the bass its probably not that important

Certain 09-03-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharp Nine (Post 395986)
and i dont know i can never really hear the bass its probably not that important

Preach.

Certain 09-03-2014 04:53 PM

I like violas. Why doesn't jazz have violas?

theMuzzl3 09-03-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395985)
You also have no idea what you are talking about.

^^ I never will, and I expect the same from you.


Bass is typically the most basic but most essential instrument in many genres.


*edit* -- yes, form and harmony is sustained through the musicians' brains... during free form jazz. They all pretty much know what the others are gonna play and if a solo goes off of the harmony, then they react and harmonize with it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 395988)
I like violas. Why doesn't jazz have violas?

It could have violas. Its open to writing or in the case of open jams, just listening and playing. Listening is the key.

Unfukwitable 09-04-2014 12:53 AM

when does this start @Meth hoffa?

Meth 09-04-2014 01:08 AM

Within the next few days

jilti 09-04-2014 01:12 AM

i want Tic Tac in the first round @Meth


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