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anime_boners 01-06-2016 11:26 AM

edit: cant remember the song. will be back

Diode 01-06-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 560287)
I dont think biggie was a great lyricist personally. Not saying pac is either but it aint like big was leaps and bounds above him

well that's the stupidest fucking thing i've read today.

Inno 01-06-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 560309)
KRS-One's style was outdated by the time his second album dropped.

So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

Diode 01-06-2016 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 560320)
So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

lol @ pac did 10 times better than biggie

LOL

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

DMX is a better storyteller than pac

there. i said it. it's been said.

Inno 01-06-2016 11:52 AM

Srsly?

You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

Diode 01-06-2016 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 560322)
Srsly?

You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmvipF3Mbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A949JshqvbI

Inno 01-06-2016 12:02 PM

Lol joe Budden story better than that

veritas 01-06-2016 12:17 PM

DMX was pretty epic.

uh-oh 01-06-2016 12:20 PM

Dmx is an east coast pac with a shittier catalog and shittier beats

SWIZZY

that said i fuck with dmx

Pac>

Greed 01-06-2016 12:26 PM

And then there was x low key got me into wtiting.

Certain 01-06-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 560320)
So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

1. I never said Biggie was the greatest. And I never would.

2. Rakim is the reason KRS-One's style was outdated. Rakim was lyricism distilled to its bare bones. He struggled when he tried to be more than that, specifically as an angry, overtly violent, weirdly military-based mess of internal rhymes on "Casualties of War" and some other songs on Don't Sweat the Technique.

3. Passion and heart literally are not lyricism.

4. 2Pac's stories were basic and driven entirely by emotion. Biggie told stories better than 2Pac, even if 2Pac might have told better stories. And 2Pac did not tell better stories than Biggie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lb0HImG_MU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePH5YYgQNk

Witty 01-06-2016 01:01 PM

I think Rakim was better than all of them tbh.

Inno 01-06-2016 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain (Post 560340)
1. I never said Biggie was the greatest. And I never would.

2. Rakim is the reason KRS-One's style was outdated. Rakim was lyricism distilled to its bare bones. He struggled when he tried to be more than that, specifically as an angry, overtly violent, weirdly military-based mess of internal rhymes on "Casualties of War" and some other songs on Don't Sweat the Technique.

3. Passion and heart literally are not lyricism.

4. 2Pac's stories were basic and driven entirely by emotion. Biggie told stories better than 2Pac, even if 2Pac might have told better stories. And 2Pac did not tell better stories than Biggie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lb0HImG_MU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePH5YYgQNk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUs0KtB-I

This better though

~RustyGunZ~ 01-06-2016 01:45 PM

Big l was better than both tho

Diode 01-06-2016 01:45 PM

lol no

not ever

Diode 01-06-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knucklehead (Post 560360)
Big l was better than both tho

lyrically, yes, big L repped ny the hardest in that era

Certain 01-06-2016 02:14 PM

Big L died before he could get good beats consistently. It's a fucking shame.

"Brenda's Got a Baby" is fine. It's not even close to as complex or interesting or emotional as, say, Nas' "Undying Love" or Jay Z's "Meet the Parents." But it's fine. 2Pac's best storytelling track is "I Ain't Mad At Cha."

Ghost1 01-06-2016 02:20 PM

Big l got even less material then biggie tho lol

I mean he was hot....but cmon

Are we now to the stage of the thread where we just make it known that we know of other greats not in discussion?

~RustyGunZ~ 01-06-2016 02:24 PM

Vanilla ice tho

oats 01-06-2016 02:46 PM

AYO BIG PUN >>>>>>> YOU HEAR THAT SHIT ABOUT THE MIDDLEMEN OF GIGGLY JIZZILY?! PUN THE GOAT IN AND OUT OF LITTLE ITALY.


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