DEADDDD

I have read a LOT of the original Ancient Hebrew and there are sooooo many errors, so many things that have completely different meanings when translated back to the Hebrew.

Srs V, it isn't good that I am more educated on your belief than you are.

God theory is as plausible as the young earth theory


Both sound dumb tho

YOU ERR IN THE SCRIPTURES. THAT IS A METAPHOR DUDE CMON.. YOU REACHING NOW.

HOWBOUT THIS...INSTEAD OF GOOGLING SCRIPTS TO FIT YOUR AGENDA, STUDY IT.

LESSON: YOU CAN MAKE THE BIBLE SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT SAY IT CONSISTENTLY IF IT DONT.

WATCH:

ISIAH 40:22

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

P.S. YOU ALSO ERR IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF DIMENSIONS. READ FLATLAND AND THEN GET BACK TO ME. FOR GOD WHAT IS ROUND COULD VERY WELL EASILY BE FLAT AS WELL. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

you know if a Mexican doesn't believe, you got problems V

THERE IS AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME IN BETWEEN GENESIS 1:1 AND 1:2.

THE EARTH WAS ALREADY HERE IN 1:1.....

I COULD EXPLAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON IF ANYONE CARED.

COME ONE COME ALL....ARGUE WITH TRUTH...REPLACE IT WITH MONKEY MEN, AND BACTERIA MAGICALLY APPEARING. PRANCE YOUR AGENDA AROUND, THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AND SAY I HAVE BLIND FAITH.


BRING IT.

HUSH IS A FOOL WHO STILL LIES ON THE INTERNET ABOUT HIS LIFE. MEXICANS ARE MOSTLY CATHOLICS...WHICH DOES NOT MEAN CHRISTIAN.


KEEP EM COMING. NEXGT>?

I AM BOARDING ON PURE INSTINCT RIGHT NOW.

WRONG AGAIN!

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ORIGINATED YOUR BELIEF...YOU ADMIT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHERE IT ALL CAME FROM, THEN PROCEED TO TELL ME WHERE YOU KNOW IT DIDNT COME FROM@???

HLK;EJ;AKLJEK;LJAK;LJLFKJK;LAJEF;AE


THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE OLD TEXT...THE PROBLEM IS THE NEW TEXTS THEY ARE MAKING......DO YOU CARE?

catholic isn't Christian?
do tell

Well that's convenient lmao

Also, I have studied the bible for years upon years, I have sat with priests, pastors, rabbi's, I am very interested in the book, it is a work of art and a great historical source of literature and metaphors passed thru generations but it is not a literal explanation of how earth was created, and in fact never was thought of in that way until relatively recently.

Lmao @ you quoting Isiah when that book is considered one of the most metaphor laden book in the bible...wtf Veritas.

Also, how do you decide what is a metaphor and what is not? Also dead @ you can make the bible say anything you want...that's the problem, you shouldn't be able to do that with factual evidence.

Surely my 3 passages > your one passage.

Find me more...gogogogo.

I have a logical question for you veritas. During the Great Flood in the story of Noah what happens with all the water creatures. More specifically if the entire world was covered by water what happens to all fresh water fish?

Explain to me how I am wrong.

I have proof that words and full passages were mistranslated from Ancient Hebrew...some were even left out altogether....that doesn't seem very accurate to me.

This is the issue
Ur faith blinds u



I'm not saying I know god don't exist
I'm I am open to him existing

I am open to him not

I am inclined to him not


U blindly follow cuz u were raised to
Cuz it gives u comfort
Quiets ur fears



Pussy

Where does it say this in the bible?

I could give a fuck what the bible says
it's a book written by men
at no point did god sit down and tell some dude what to write
it's called mythology
it's a story
people have always been afraid of the dark
and now, it's a tool for the rich to remain in power
don't rise up, turn the other cheek, you'll find your reward in afterlife
that's called a long con bro
nothing more

RNA molecules can spontaneously form in volcanic vents. Biomaterials form in the interstellar space.

Several viruses can self-assemble, i.e. from a single RNA molecule can form their protective casing.

The environment of early Earth was conducive to trillions of billions of organic molecules spontaneously interacting and repurposing.

Scientists haven't made a protocell yet, but they've come close. The chaotic and volatile nature of the prehistoric oceans means there is an incredibly large range of possible conditions to account for in the lab... But if you can follow the tire tracks down to the edge of the shore at high tide and see they've been washed away, I mean...


I don't understand how religion is supposed to be appealing. Nobody wants to be saved. They want to save themselves.

It is interesting you believe in instinct....so I take it you believe in genetic memory?

veritas, in your mind, are we all the devil trying to tempt you?

If you give someone some 2x4s, a hammer, and a nail- then hammer them together- do you have to build an entire house before they believe such a thing is possible?
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solid

god as a concept is solid
the judeo-Christian god... not so much
sadly, I think that god is too small for this universe we occupy

I don't think God as a concept is all that solid at all tbh it is just something that as of yet has not been disproven, I don't write off the idea of God completely, but being a man of logic I do not see how the God of Christianity and The Theory of Evolution can go hand in hand, so I go with the one for which there is evidence.

God as a concept is really all God is, a concept...an idea, something that only exists because it can not be disproven. Evolution and God are not equal, there is evidence for evolution...it is accepted as fact and rightly so. Even if you do not believe evolution occured, this does not mean God exists as Veritas is trying to imply...evolution being disproven (if such a thing were to happen) would not validate the existence of God in any way, it would still only be a concept, because there is no proof.

Also, it always concerns me that Christians and other religions seem to think of science as some evil thing that is out to attack their faith...science is not a belief system, it was not set up to destroy faith but to answer the questions of our existence based on evidence from the natural world, it just so happens that the evidence which was found contradicts certain things in those religions that there is no evidence for.

They are not opposites of each other, they are not even related to each other at all...Religion is based on faith and spirituality, which is cool...believe what you want, but don't assume to know better than those who can actually demonstrate and show evidence for their theories.

like most mainstream artists, religious organizations have to conform to what they believe most people want... their only purpose is self-preservation.

people don't realize that this stretches back to like, the dawn of civilization lol.


but like, the very core of the idea of God- is that there is some force that brings order out of chaos, which is the natural state of the universe. that's interesting to me.

Maybe God is time.

yeah, but even science has a limit
we can't see past the Big Bang, so we have to assume that something was the initial cause.
not much other than god fits that bill

Maybe, I dunno


My personal opinion is that all of these things are super interesting but ultimately meaningless and a waste of time


more on the earliest forms of life


EDIT: nvm that dude was a crackpot

That isn't science tho...that is speculation based on nothing.

It is more scientific to say 'As of right now, we do not know' than to say 'It must have been God'

We do not have to assume anything, we just have to keep looking for the answer, and until then, admit we don't know. As I said, there is no shame for a scientist to say he does not know something, because science is a gradual process of collecting evidence and forming theories...we are a young species and it would be stupid to expect us to have all the answers right now...but that goes no way in validating the existence of God.

That is the god of the gaps...and as time goes on, there will be less and less gaps for that God to fit in.

Also, the big bang is the limit at the moment.

At one time we thought the edge of earth was the limit, then we thought it was the edge of the solar system, then it was the edge of the galaxy, then it was the edge of our cluster of galaxies, then we found even more galaxy clusters...then we found superclusters....it is a process of learning.

why are you talking to me like you disagree with me?
we're on the same page
but the idea of god is pretty big and fits into a lot of areas since we know so little about them anyway
I'm not saying it's not a naive direction to go in, but I sadly don't think we will ever advance enough to go in another one

WRONG. I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC AND HATED IT. I STUDIED THE BIBLE TO DISPROVE IT. IT OVERTOOK ME.

It's because I do disagree in this instance, that we have reached our scientific limit...that's absurd to me tbh

In 1901 a man was quoted to have said 'Everything that will be invented has been invented'....that was before cars, before planes, before computers etc etc

I believe the only thing that limits us is our belief that a limit even exists.

DUDE YOUR SCIENTISTS LIKE RICHARD DAWKINGS KNOW NOTHING OF CERTAINTY EXECPT THAT IT CANT BE GOD. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. HE IS NOT ALONE.

I'm talking about the limit as to how far back to the beginning we can see
there most certainly is a limit - it's the Big Bang
I don't think it's possible to surpass this limit, unless we are mistaken about the essence of the big bang

CHRISTIANS ARE NOT AGAINST SCIENCE. CARL BALL, ISAAC NEWTON, ETC ETC ETC.

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. YOU THINK YOU DO.

THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE OF AN ORDER TO THE UNIVERSE THAN ANYTHING.

THERE IS JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE ENTHALPY THAN ENTROPY.

I CAN WORK WITH THIS, IT IS SOMEWHAT REASONABLE...ELABORATE.

it assumes that earth is the only place where life exists, which is just blatantly dumb, if you have any inkling of the size of our universe
to put it plainly, we are too small for a god of that entire existence to even be aware of us.

it would be like me caring about the bacterium in my shit

Veritas trying so hard right now.