on the battle titles , what do the numbers next to each person's name represent?

@Certain


cant be ranking. no way oats is 16. so ?

It's the weekly rankings used to determine matches.

please elaborate

The ranking system his using is like high school basketball tournament style. Its basically winners bracket/losers bracket. Not the overall rank. Its just to help him schedule matches. Were not people to certain, juat numbers

those rankings are aligned with results, so if you lose (as I have in the last 2 weeks) you fall in the rankings, whereas wins move you up.

i had a verse written but i didnt get a chance to post it

o well sry soul

if my match is the last to receive a vote i'm going to have a hernia

Hypothetically, let's say the higher ranked people won this week.

Next week's rankings (assuming no no-shows or sign outs) would be:

1. zygote (winner of 1-2)
2. timeless (winner of 3-4)

3. Perpendicular (winner of 5-6)
4. Vividlyvague (winner of 7-8)

5. Just Write (winner of 9-10)
6. Mike Wrecka (winner of 11-12)

7. Adonis (winner of 13-14)
8. Vulgar (winner of 15-16)

9. Zombie (loser of 1-2)
10. Johnathan Mercy (winner of 17-18)

11. Split Eight (loser of 3-4)
12. dead man (winner of 19-20)

13. Frank (loser of 5-6)
14. Certain (loser of 7-8)

15. King Ra. (loser of 9-10)
16. YDK (loser 11-12)

17. Cereal_Killa (loser of 13-14)
18. oats (loser of 15-16)

19. MMLP (loser of 17-18)
20. Soulstice (loser of 19-20)

This is built in the same fashion as the RSTL and RBL of old. The idea is to allow different contenders to cycle through in a more logical progression.

it's cool that no matter what happens, there are dope match ups the next week. Frank-Certain and Black-Split would be dope. so would the Mercy-Zombie rematch.

proposition

Damn.... We should let @Chief Justice Wright @dead man and @YDK post what they have. I understand the need for discipline and consistency, but it seems they all have verses, and it would frankly bring in a lot more votes and a handful of verses wouldn't go to waste.


provided they can post in the next hour? @Certain

the AOWL has from day one had very strict and firm deadlines

that consistency and reliability is what makes the league as great as it is


they should coordinate with their opponents and move the battle to the BA
which desperately needs activity

truuu

but yo. the BA is dead. we dont even have the whack BA cretins running around in their own corner of the site anymore

Not to say anything because pancake's my dude but what about last week when his match was closed and then he posted his verse after the battle said that he already lost via no-show but then it got re-opened? I could care less about posting or not but don't say its very strict like nobody noticed what happened last week.

How is somebody 1-0 ahead of somebody 7-3?

I actually didn't notice that. I was signed out and wasn't online as much as usual.


Certain is the guy in charge this season. I was just giving my opinion. he calls the shots

I noticed....that's why I said to certain 'you got some 'splaining to do'

I feel like my 'no show loss' should be taken off my record.

I didn't bring it up again cuz I don't rly care and I didn't wanna fuck with Pancake's battle but it did kinda annoy me for a second tbh especially after what happened with my battle when I did that.

how is frank fuck you?

Just Write, all season I've been loose about the editing deadline. You say you had part of a verse written? That's exactly what happened two weeks ago against Vividlyvague. Both of you posted half-verses and edited in full ones. You and King Ra. easily could have done the same this week. But you say you had half a verse finished, but I checked the time stamp on your account. You had been active on the site at 2:07 then hadn't checked back until 20 minutes after the deadline.

With El Pancake last week, he had given me a heads-up that if he didn't post on time he'd post very close to on time, which he did. Several others have had similar situations in the past. Say something. Say, "Hey, I can show but I might need 10 extra minutes." Or really, just post what you have and edit things quickly. If you're still editing a verse the next day, yeah, I'll disqualify you. But I haven't disqualified anyone yet this season for editing within an hour or so of the deadline, you included.

And Witty, your no-show loss from that week clearly isn't going to be taken off your record. I've seen enough of your writing to know that you wrote that shitty half-verse in the 20-30 minutes after your battle was closed just to whine.

That's not true lol ask people I was speaking to on aim...you're holding a grudge and I don't know why but I genuinely spent time on that piece.

So because you 'think' I didn't, you are giving me a loss that you have not given to others?

Cool.

Just don't act like you're some super strict mod who enforces the rules with an iron fist when you are happy to bend them for your friends but not when you get butthurt because someone got confused about timezones.

Also, I posted in here that I had my verse ready less than 15 mins after the battle was closed.

It may have been a piece of shit verse, but I spent time writing it.

Someone gets confused about time zones every single time they join any league?

Huh?

Out of all my other no shows....have I ever complained? have I ever done anything other than apologise?

Why would I kick up so much of a fuss about this one occasion?

I try to post my pieces on time, same as everyone else.

I dont mean to throw rocks in the water all im saying is itvs not been strict. I chose to not post last night because I did that same thing last week (half assed verse) and I didnt want to again. I know I could have posted on time and I strongly believe my halfway verse would have won, thats not my point. My point is if its going to be strict it needs to be strict for everyone. Thats how leagues work,.. or don't work. Favoritism is not cool, not saying thats what happened at all. Im just saying ive seen battles closed at midnight on the dot and someone not be able to post. It just needs to be a level playing field. Ok, I wont say another word about this

I mean, you've been doing this for seven years, right? Seven years of being in leagues and tournaments and shit, right? So how do you still not know the time differences?

9 years I think.

I have never had to post at a time when the time differences were different than they normally are...the clocks changed...to the best of my knowledge I have never been in that situation before.

Also, up until the last 2 years I used to have much more time and I usually posted long before the deadline. I never no showed back then, I don't remember no showing until I joined netcees tbh...it just so happened that life got pretty crazy around that time and my topical writing in general came to a halt.

It is. Again, El Pancake had specifically asked me for a few extra minutes. He was on the site right at the time of the deadline.

I have not once not given people five or so extra minutes when I see they are active on the site at the time of the deadline. I don't want people to no-show. But I don't understand the logic of saying you had a verse half-written the day after. You weren't active on the site anywhere close to the deadline, and you didn't even speak up after seeing the battle was closed. You waited until 11 a.m. to say you had a half-written verse. What am I supposed to do with that?

What's this no edit business? I thought we could edit until first vote, or if we posted first, until our opponent posted?

I think the moral of the story is to just post 10 garbo lines if youre going at 3 am, then write your real verse

JW was in his thread at 3:15, lookin forlorn af

i remember doe

As I said, I don't care.

It just bothered me for a second, I didn't follow up with it because I didn't want to fuck with battles or the league, so I said nothing, but I was pissed for a second, and I believe the loss on my record should be taken off, I don't care if it's not, I don't care about my record at all, so I have no interest in whether it is removed or not...I just think it should be.

Not true.

Are you really that fucking stupid? Have I once said that im complaining because I want to post my verse lol? Look at the bigger fucking picture dude. You say you dont wait over 5 minutes yet he ninja posts at 12:18 because he has mod powers. Lol your a joke, fuck you and this league. Seriously

For the record, I think you've done a great job in this league and it's been very enjoyable even as someone who has only been a spectator for most of it...I just say what I think.

If you don't want to post your verse, what are you complaining about? What is this bigger picture? I have been lax with rules when it helps people show in or around the deadline. I probably was too harsh with Witty that week.

Witty, if you'd like to vote three times this week, I will change your loss to a win, and you will only have two no-show losses credited against you. That seems fair. But Witty's scenario was the only one all season in which someone tried to post, found a battle locked and spoke up about it with no change in the ruling.

You can find dozens of examples of battles this season where people have either posted half-verses at the deadline and edited in full versions or posted slightly late.

I'm glad wittys got a chance to get his loss fixed cuz I remember that shit. It wasn't just a time zone difference it was also the day we moved clocks ahead one hour so he genuinely got fucked lol

An I'm sorry no showing again guys, I had full intention of posting but lacked motivation an the topic really had my rattled cuz I couldn't think of any takes that hadn't been done to death. Along with vacation days an my birthday I really just let time get away from me so for that I apologize

certain i do really like your voice bro and hearing you speak is so nice

open our battle up yeah?

just between us guys

This is fair.

YO

harder to talk to, even harder to crush
driven towards departure when the market is up
crawling amuck. table legs and ottoman dust
lunch was biscuit crumbles but it's hardly enough
after-meal banana peels so soft to the touch
it's this type of garbage that i've constantly lusted
can't separate mortality from thoughts of consumption
like it's difficult to tease a form apart from it's function
the art of destruction: groupthink defining conformity
lining up orderly outside the finest sorority
from the islands of Normandy to your alleys and yards
shelled cataract, behind the plaster cavernous walls
imagine it all - a sea of black enveloping surface
methods underhanded. purpose pure like 70 virgins
survive. thrive and multiply, develop resurgence
legged dots along the edge of the curtain. let us be certain
i was once a giant. patterned rubber and cloth
setting snares and guillotines no matter the cost
contemplative instinctual and scattered across
the carpet once the darkness dissolves, often we've lost
but victory's around the bend, i've seen it in dreams
weeks without a meal but never weak in the knees
i was once a giant, yet ka's a cyclic machine
i'll be a giant once again before i'm free.

JW is the head chairman of the United Writers Union. Protecting AOWL participants faithfully since 2014.

Repped

Chief Justice Wright, I thought your verse last week wasn't 'half-assed'. If my memory serves me right, you posted on Wednesday (2 days before deadline) and edited it a few times after that (which is fine). I half-agree, half-disagree with both parties in the inquiry. I thought editing was lenient, if it was the wording in a line, OR a few little fix-ups here and there mechanically/grammatically, etc.

I think I've done editing about once or twice, but I've also bit my tongue on many errors/change of heart I've had on a lot of things I've posted prematurely, or I wrote very quickly. I try not to post past 11:59 PT, and I haven't yet. I rather show with a 'half-ass' verse than no verse, in my honest opinion. I almost did that to zygote this week but I decided against it, as I did have time. I was just being lazy, I'm glad I showed. Other than that, I remember pancake posting at around the 12:18 mark, and I saw him 'ninja' it in. I didn't have a problem with it - I thought it was allowed, and still do. 12 hours, or 5 hours or even 2 hours after is still considered a loss to me and shouldn't be allowed. Half an hour, or should I say -18 minutes, really isn't a problem, even with the strictest guidelines. I commend certain for giving Witty the chance to redact his loss, as it is a special occasion and requires special mending. Exceptional.

I think pancake knew he was on the side of falling behind in votes, but made an effort to show. Which is exceptional as well.