exactly, all i said was the album's trash to me and niggas been trying to explain how em is top 1 rapper alive. im not gonna argue opinions but son's came into this thread and others like "EM IS GOD, EM IS GOAT, EM HAS THE BEST SHIT EVER"

because i don't have a pussy

u act like cause u don't like music doesn't mean u shouldn't talk about it. similar to that "oh u don't vote so u can't talk about who's the president" shit some ppl say. i'm a man who likes listening to music. i like music. to hear Eminem on the shit he's made now is just a hypocritical change of heart and a face palm worthy moment for me.

who said that in this thread tho?

I was just making a general statement. Used dlb cause hes the one that absolutely hates it.

Just saying music is never gonna please everyone.

This is that shit to me tho. Actually pumped to cop a physical copy.

I wont say em is the goat but I think theres a strong case for it. Hes top 5 imo.

Biggie will just never be surpassed to me. Jay is probably at that status too.

brainless is a banger

nevermind. he said kick his tush

smh lol. hook is terrible. scratch that

album went 0-16 for me. but i was expecting as much.

i actually think em took a step forward with this tho, the production is terrible to me all around. i just dont like the beats and i don't like eminem. mainly the beats tho because em wasnt half as corny on this as he usually is.

but word he went in on some of this album. like metts pointed out, headlights he was going in. on alot of em he goes in

i just can't get over his voice or the production itself. on some songs, like headlights for example, he's a normal dude and he builds up to where he's back to yellin and he just dont got the voice for it

to me personally. its annoying i dont want to hear it

but word i didnt like this.

personal preference. the only thing skill wise i can logically hate on is the beats

nas the goat

i personally have not heard the album and have nothing to contribute but would like to post in the topic.

nas>em

jay>nas

jay>nas>big

jay>2pac>nas>big

jay>2pac>camron>nas>big

Nas is in my top 5 with scarface rounding it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju8Hr50Ckwk

@Destroyer

this is singing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTHNpusq654

singing in a pop song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDTqXR8_lSE

eminem trying to get his singing on while rapping on verses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfIoFQvyjJY

miley switches between singing and regular speaking/rapping, a bridge to a hook

affliction of voice and how it's used relates to singing b. ur an idiot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadS0AFcmjA

again, drake is the most versatile at singing/rapping switch, but he's using autotune then switches into rapping

ur trying to say when Eminem does his hooks, he has to have an almost monotone expression or it's singing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWZBchgVSvc

reverse transition, chance the rapper sings basically the whole verse instead of rapping it. then throws singing into the hook on the background, which is just rapping/speaking generically

Em just will blatantly try and sing, even though he's not even a decent singer (ie Not Afraid, son was trying to get some inspiring shit on while singing, didn't work) on A LOT of his new shit, but rarely did it on his old shit, as I said. your list even proves it. i can give u a cpl D12 tracks but u said he tried singing on Forget About Dre and i was like hmmmmm, u stupid as fuck

he does the hook
sings, raps whatever
u don't like it, I get it

ok cool

don't quote me or @ me anywhere else in this thread

have a nice day

@Swagneto

no prob

I don't like chief keef and this is the first time I have mentioned him.

Why waste any of your life dwelling on something you don't enjoy?

u know what?
fuck swagneto. ur the definition of a hater
this dudes dropping 7-minute EPIC rhymes and that just doesn't do it for you?
wtf do you want hater?

lmfao@dlb like

All i did was say i.didnt like an every1 comin at me


Lolol

U are not the victim.

U have been campaigning in every thread....haha

i want a less corny, more grittier, non hypocritical Eminem. the one that didn't give a fuck. possibly on a substance. but that stage passed & his time has. motherfuckers like u are the Vince McMahon of music and why it is so hard progressing it now. U guys spent so much time invested into building up Jay, Em, Nas, Pac, Big, etc (The Rock, Stone Cold, DX, etc) that u wanna bring these motherfuckers back and make them turn into cornballs. The Rock came back against John Cena and looked like a cornball the whole way through for nostalgia. Em is looking exactly like that currently, just a fucking cornball. Big and Pac were like the Stone Cold's of that shit, ruthless but they never come back now to do anything cause they're dead & what's left is unfinished tracks or unreleased ones. Jay and Nas are on that DX type of shit, one is overrated, the other was underwhelming at times or never got what he deserved. Jay looks like a cornball businessman at times, and is a cornball rapper now aka the Triple HHH of rap. Nas is the Shawn Michaels of it, ppl remember him for certain things but he deserved to be the champ or king at times that he never got it or he was just lame to ppl. they've battled each other millions of times. it's understandable, we all have opinions.

but what holds the next generation back is the fact u can't allow me to not like Eminem's shit. i haven't liked Kanye's new album, Jay's new album, Em's new album, J Cole's new album, any of Wale's shit, and that's on both sides of the spectrum. u act like i hate eminem, nah. i hate the fact he just knowingly is being a cornball, spitting corny ass lines that i wouldn't say out loud to a bitch or any person, running with gimmicks and getting a pass for it. this album is wack to me, i look up lyrics more than anyone g. Rap God is all flow. nothing he says really is like "oh shit Eminem snapped", the way u hear how he is spitting is the SAME reaction niggas gave Twista and one of the dudes from Bone-ThugsN Harmony cause they spat fast. the whole beat's trash to me, and the whole stopping to do the Laffy Taffy parody was lame to me. others found it funny

more ironic, the same guy who made a living bashing N Sync, Justin Timberlake, pop stars, pop icons, his mom, ex-wife is on a song with Nate Ruess/Rihanna(popstar Rihanna) now, asking all of them for forgiveness basically when it's all been said and done for a while(Kim tried to commit suicide and his mom went MIA for a lil i believe) and does lots of singing now(that sounds like shit). shit's just saddening, and Rihanna basically took The Monster from Em, just the same way JT did Jay Z on Holy Grail. It's not even like he is trying either, his lyrics have been dumbed down lots for a flow. essentially,mainstream rap/hip-hop has dumbed down for flow in general. then ppl try to discredit cats who are on their shit from the new generation like: Kendrick aka the CM Punk of it, Black Hippy aka the independent wrestlers/indie wrestlers, Action Bronson aka the fat Dolph Ziggler, Chance the Rapper aka the Daniel Bryan, etc because they aren't em, jay, etc in the 90s.

^^ u might only get these references if u've been in tune with wrestling lately btw.

just to keep the balance

cause ppl(especially bodey) make an em thread every time son breathes lol, make one em thread or something

lol. props on writing that all out
at least you support your opinion, which I can respect

Eminem is a quarter billionaire thats 40 years old and can barlely go out in public.


gritty is gone man. hes grown. raising kids. he realizes he influences too many people now to be careless with the shit he says.

Your points would be a lot easier to argue against if "stronger than I was" was not on this record @swag

that's not an excuse tho. hip hop has lost it's grittiness at the same time all these stars of hip hop did. just as WWE has. just as this generation has. it lacks that strength it used to have, because a lot of the older guys just show up for paychecks while the younger cats are just buried, as the WWE is. nobody really takes risks anymore.


& no, eminem has been like this since about encore/relapse time. he should've retired after encore and just let it be as jay should've with the black album. eminem used to rap crazy shit that was dope, now it's just stupid shit. relapse/recovery/encore/MMLP2 are all in the same category to me, it's like the Hornswoggle of rap. mostly just corny, filler shit

Lovegame is the worst song i've ever heard and it has one of the brightest stars on it in hip-hop today. i'm still smh'ing at it. it's not like they went "Renegade" on it, they essentially went Drake and that guy gets A LOT of slack for being soft. if Drake gets a lot of shit for doing songs that are soft as fuck, Em should be for Recovery and some of the shit on this.


and for examples, i'd love to do this comparison of shit:

typical wrestling before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DF0F3Wg48

u had ppl challenging the top dawgs (Spike Dudley) and the listeners of rap were like Jim Ross( BAHHHHHHH GAWD DIS IS A SLOBBERKNOCKER) when some dope shit was out, (HES CHEATIN PLAIN AND SIMPLE) when it was garbage shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnJtLGMVoY

the promo is like, on some fuck shit. u dont know what's going on, it's hype and shit's just crazy in general

wrestling now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuicnDdnppY

the grittiness is gone, it's fucking corny as fuck. shit's just like childish and amateur shit. Michael Cole's an annoying ass Stan almost and it's shitty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2_poIvmtk

not as gritty. john cena is fucking lame as fuck in a lot of promos. again, michael cole, aka the annoying Stan speaks a little. ryback is corny, same with John Cena. it's not as unexpectable, John Cena rarely loses anything too

rap before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvL4O3uomg

classic, gritty sound. biggie kills it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc

another classic, the beat itself is perfect. it makes sense and fits the track, it's dope. it's not on some sucker ass love song shit, etc. it's just some shit u can feel w/o making dude sound like a bitch, cause he's a MAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvteoFiMlg

hell, lets use an Eminem song. dude sounds like he's speaking to u while he's fucking raping u. son sounds pissed, the flow is there since the beginning, going with the piano, just spewing venom, shitting on your soul.


rap now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cimoNqiulUE

this guy's not even rapping that he will kill you, but he singing "you gon hype me up and make me catch a body like that.......ahhhhhhhhhhhhh" and using autotune the whole song. the beat is crazy but the lyrics lack because we all KNOWWWWWWWWW drake ain't killing niggas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YcIgow6TDk

jay z kills neither verse, but the beat fits his style perfectly. instead, justin timberlake comes in and just SLAYS his part of the song, while jay comes off w/ shit u don't care nor know what he's talking about. jay been doing that for about a decade imo, the whole Tyson,Jordan, Michael references are STILL being used by him, etc. it's Watch the Throne w/o Kanye basically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9176Srb5Y

eminem now. beat sounds like some shit fitting for the Beastie Boys. Em says the "ra-hag" line, then the whole thing with "Kendrick...slink it.... picnic" is fucking annoying at the end of every line. some lines come off corny, the HOOK is sooooooooooooooooo corny. the song isn't gritty or even saying anything tbh, i've heard better songs to get ppl hyped/party. let me quote everything lame he says, and thanks to Rap Genius, it adds in hyphens of all the corny shit he says:

But girl, your body's banging, jump me in, dang, bang-bang
Yessiree Bob, I was thinking the same thang
So come get on this Kid's rock, Bawitdaba, dang-dang
Pow-pow, chica, pow, chica, wow-wow
Got your gal blowing up a valve, valve-valve
Ain't slowing down, throw in the towel, towel-towel
Dumb it down, I don't know how, huh-huh, how-how

anything he's said that was dope, like the aloan line was used by Killa Cam 13 yrs prior sooooooooooooooooooooooo, the whole song just comes off as a cheesy Beastie Boys mindtrick of a song. not authentic, not gritty, not Eminem. the beat produced by Rick Rubin is his style but the song lacks

itt: dlb loses his mind.

You're hand picking examples btw, and employing confirmation bias in every post.

LOL this thread is the end of dlb.

this. Em trying to be gritty when his life is comfy as fuck would be even worse than the shit we're complaining about now.



newsflash: rap is not a genre that ages well. The fact that this album is arguably his 4th best album is a victory in itself. if you want his old shit, listen to his old albums.

stanism is a religion to u fucks

Keep telling yourself it is everybody else who is deluded.

That will help.

dlb understand that I do want u as a fan

lmaooo

u put more effort into that than u have in the NBL, congrats destro

Dlb....this thread is giving u brain cancer.

Preserve urself....exit....this thread....

umm everytime I said curtain call I meant the Eminem show lmao


I thought the third one was called curtain call for sum reason.....

lol fuck, i liked So Far. puts me in a good mood before work. i cant stop playing Headlights though, that song is a trip to listen to, the lyrics sting.

and yes, i know i'm a stan, i'm not gonna argue that. didnt like encore and wasnt really interested in the relapse albums as far as maybe 4 or 5 tracks? so i'm not stanning too hard... but right now.. these days... i'm stanning so bad i leave a stan stain

your opinion holds no weight nor logic

also fuck your paragraph shit ho

& for the record, i fux with Em, so your generic 'anything negative about Eminem must be hate' is only showing your lack of ability to think for yourself...but keep tryna project your inabilities & insecurites on other people... your still a joke, the type niggaz laugh at not with

edit - DLB keeping it a thousand like a muhfuka in this thread

My opinion is better than anything you will ever think or say in your entire life.

I didn't say what you quoted, moron, I also never projected anything, i don't think you know what that word means, don't use big words you don't understand, all I said was it is the in thing to hate on Eminem, which is true, what did I say that wasn't true?....you aren't good at debate.

You seem to know who I am, who are you?

Did you know that everything you say is horribly wrong?


How much education do you have?

why is your name witty when you have like zero of it?

also go write some more paragraph that niggaz barely pay attention tooo where your coming off like a attention deprived no skill having ho...thanx bruddah

Says I have no wit, goes directly for the 'Ur name is witty but you aren't Witty at all hahahahagagavrbdhsbhahah'

My name has nothing to do with being Witty, but congratulations for being the billionth person to jump to that conclusion.

What's that?

That is the sound of you losing miserably.

Also, I am better than you at everything, I post better than you, I write better than you, I live better than you, I know how to discuss things using logic instead of being a sheep better than you.

I am, superior.

keep blowing your own horn holmes cuh aint no-one else doing it...you not coming off like a full blown bitch at all

also when your ready to back up them empty statements you always hollerin, pick up a mic & so me how much better you rap than me...witchya bullshit 'topical' ass lmfao fuck outta here you ho

I will be sure to do that, and I will be better than you.

It is genetic.

What was it about my original comment you took offence to tho? Was it that I said you had a recycled opinion? That's what it felt like, I have read hundreds of posts that were basically exactly what you posted...it is the message board mentality. I wasn't trying to insult tho, that's just how I speak to people, next time you want to say something or question something try coming at me like an adult instead of a butthurt child and I will speak to you, and not just purposely be an asshole.

If you want to resort to childishness I am only too happy to oblige.