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veritas 09-27-2018 09:23 AM

I agree. It was worded poorly. I apologize. It still makes sense. But it could have made more sense. I was in a rush. Sorry.

Ghost1 09-27-2018 09:47 AM

so...as an objective viewer in this ongoing debate....here are the flaws in your formula...y=the elite are sacrificing children..........you are offering this as a concrete definition in your formula that everyone would agree on.......but you've leapt to this definition without making sure firstly that everyone actually agrees on it....as it appears they do not.....so before you can offer that as a part of your formula you need to prove it to be true in order to have it accepted as part of your equation

if you can accomplish this.....x being that kids are being kidnapped in mass numbers....plus y being that the elite ritually sacrifice children....does not equal Z...z should be your interpretation of x+y ...as it stands you listed another component to your formula....where x+y+z = zz is a more apt formula for the function youre attempting to propose.

the leaps from x to y to z to zz however are hugely presumptuous and make it very difficult to confidently arrive at zz

diode and dullboy have also posed logical arguments that state that adrenochrome is a fictional drug originating from popular writing and also that the effects youre attributing to the drug...regardless of its name....are inaccurate as well

so.......u cant just say DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE MAYBE IT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN EVER SOMETIME ONCE IN EXISTENCE....obviously that's an exaggeration but the burden of proof lies with you for a few points

1. elites are ritually sacrificing/torturing children
2. adrenochrome is not a fictional drug created by the author of fear and loathing
3. the effects of the drug in question (regardless of its actual name) are what youre purporting them to be

personally I would need to see references to peer reviewed academic medical journals

the idea that those sources are less reliable than more popular sensational sources that this type of information may have originated from is another case you would need to justify to me.... and u would need to do it without asking ....is it possible....that's not good enough....it should be is it probable.

uh-oh 09-27-2018 10:24 AM

hey bags where is the peer reviewed academic medical journals saying jesus is your cuck god faggot

HEEL TURN

THE ELITES ARE DEFINITELY REPTILE SPECIES OF HUMANOID THAT KIDNAP CHILDREN AND DRINK THEIR BLOOD AFTER INJECTING THE ADRENAL THAT WAS EXTRACTED FROM IT TO KEEP MAJOR CORPORATIONS LOBBYING FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE SURE THE MINIMUM WAGE IS SET TO AN UNLIVABLE STANDARD AND ALL CHICKENS AND COWS GET SYSTEMATICALLY TORTURED IN FACTORY FARMS SO THAT WHEN THEIR MEAT IS CONSUMED BY HUMANS THEY ARE CONSUMING ANIMAL ADRENALINE WHICH MAKES THEIR ADRENALINE SPIKE PRIOR TO KIDNAPPING AND KEEP HEALTHCARE FROM BEING SOCIALISED SO LOCAL DOCTORS WON'T TELL PATIENTS TO EAT VEGAN

Ghost1 09-27-2018 10:28 AM

so u believe that the historicity of Jesus should be argued for by the medical community instead of historical scholars?

fucking legit hope the government kidnaps u and kicks adrenochrome out of ur dick with steel toe boots u piece of shit

uh-oh 09-27-2018 10:34 AM

YOURE SO DUMB

you don't even realize the significance of jesus. he was the first sacrifice of the roman and jew elites who figured out they could get high off the blood of tortured people. his story didn't resonate because he died for our sins, his story was kept alive so people wouldn't forget how high you could get drinking the blood of someone tortured you fuckin idiot

read a book

Amen 09-27-2018 10:38 AM

Ask @Exis - he was getting high off of blood from dog boners.

Then went in to immediate withdrawal.

RIP EXIS.

Ghost1 09-27-2018 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 703437)
YOURE SO DUMB

you don't even realize the significance of jesus. he was the first sacrifice of the roman and jew elites who figured out they could get high off the blood of tortured people. his story didn't resonate because he died for our sins, his story was kept alive so people wouldn't forget how high you could get drinking the blood of someone tortured you fuckin idiot

read a book

goneee

veritas 09-27-2018 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 703417)
so...as an objective viewer in this ongoing debate....here are the flaws in your formula...y=the elite are sacrificing children..........you are offering this as a concrete definition in your formula that everyone would agree on.......but you've leapt to this definition without making sure firstly that everyone actually agrees on it....as it appears they do not.....so before you can offer that as a part of your formula you need to prove it to be true in order to have it accepted as part of your equation

if you can accomplish this.....x being that kids are being kidnapped in mass numbers....plus y being that the elite ritually sacrifice children....does not equal Z...z should be your interpretation of x+y ...as it stands you listed another component to your formula....where x+y+z = zz is a more apt formula for the function youre attempting to propose.

the leaps from x to y to z to zz however are hugely presumptuous and make it very difficult to confidently arrive at zz

diode and dullboy have also posed logical arguments that state that adrenochrome is a fictional drug originating from popular writing and also that the effects youre attributing to the drug...regardless of its name....are inaccurate as well

so.......u cant just say DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE MAYBE IT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN EVER SOMETIME ONCE IN EXISTENCE....obviously that's an exaggeration but the burden of proof lies with you for a few points

1. elites are ritually sacrificing/torturing children
2. adrenochrome is not a fictional drug created by the author of fear and loathing
3. the effects of the drug in question (regardless of its actual name) are what youre purporting them to be

personally I would need to see references to peer reviewed academic medical journals

the idea that those sources are less reliable than more popular sensational sources that this type of information may have originated from is another case you would need to justify to me.... and u would need to do it without asking ....is it possible....that's not good enough....it should be is it probable.



This may be your best post ever. Yes I agree that my formula was not excellent. As I told Dre. I was in a rush, and I apologize.

I can give you no peer-reviewed scientific journals. I can only give you thoughts, and examples, and maybe some statistics. I can give you a punch of puzzle pieces, but no edge pieces, and ask you if you can see the forest from the trees.

I legitimate found this topic to be fascinating. Where the turn came in, was how members of the board immediately just dismissed it as an impossibility. I understand that the burden of proof lies in my court, and I am willing to do so.

would you allow my presentation of crumbs and puzzle pieces as evidence for your mind?

veritas 09-27-2018 10:49 AM

gentlemen...a lot is happening here. Not only does this thread represent the next level of boarding habits, but also us working together to solve (at least intellectually) real world problems (in theory).


I also want to go on public record saying that I PRAY THAT I AM WRONG. I do not want any of this stuff I am mentioning to be going on. I do not want the pedophila rings, sacrifice, or even chemical harvesting to be real. I really want to believe that I am totally wrong.

someone please convince me.

uh-oh 09-27-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 703441)
gentlemen...a lot is happening here. Not only does this thread represent the next level of boarding habits, but also us working together to solve (at least intellectually) real world problems (in theory).


I also want to go on public record saying that I PRAY THAT I AM WRONG. I do not want any of this stuff I am mentioning to be going on. I do not want the pedophila rings, sacrifice, or even chemical harvesting to be real. I really want to believe that I am totally wrong.

someone please convince me.

IS IT NOT POSSIBLE YOU ARE ALREADY CONVINCED?

veritas 09-27-2018 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 703443)
IS IT NOT POSSIBLE YOU ARE ALREADY CONVINCED?

Already convinced that I am wrong, Jim?

Ghost1 09-27-2018 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 703440)
This may be your best post ever. Yes I agree that my formula was not excellent. As I told Dre. I was in a rush, and I apologize.

I can give you no peer-reviewed scientific journals. I can only give you thoughts, and examples, and maybe some statistics. I can give you a punch of puzzle pieces, but no edge pieces, and ask you if you can see the forest from the trees.

I legitimate found this topic to be fascinating. Where the turn came in, was how members of the board immediately just dismissed it as an impossibility. I understand that the burden of proof lies in my court, and I am willing to do so.

would you allow my presentation of crumbs and puzzle pieces as evidence for your mind?

yes I would be interested but firstly those 3 questions I mentioned should be addressed and when addressing them it will be important what sources you are drawing from if they are not academic journals. This is crucial to your argument because it lays the foundation for the resulting claims you present.

boof 09-27-2018 01:42 PM

the formula is actually

we know child trafficking is real
we know child sex trafficking is real
we know you can buy teenager blood
we know that politicians get caught for pedophilia all the time
we know organs are trafficked all over the wrold
we know all of this is expensive
we know a lot of our politicians are really wealthy
we know a lot of our politicians engage in morally bankrupt behavior

this is how you get adrenochrome out of adrenaline - http://www.jbc.org/content/220/1/237.full.pdf

here is the effects of adrenochrome on rabbits' sympathetic nervous system - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...392325/?page=1



i am honestly astonished that this is not in the realm of possibility or probability for any reasonable person thats not forcibly shooting it down for fear of facing a scary reality

Chyeahhh!!! 09-27-2018 01:43 PM

Lol i guess nobody peeped the medical journal links.

Thats why i dont post links anymore.

Ghost1 09-27-2018 01:46 PM

I almost posted saying that I hadn't viewed your post but didn't bother......my effort was more towards helping veritas see where his argument was falling flat

I have stated numerous times I have not researched this topic

my interests lie elsewhere at this time to be perfectly honest.....was just trying to assist a friend :)

veritas 09-27-2018 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 703454)
yes I would be interested but firstly those 3 questions I mentioned should be addressed and when addressing them it will be important what sources you are drawing from if they are not academic journals. This is crucial to your argument because it lays the foundation for the resulting claims you present.

yes. remember I am only theorizing. not making definitive claims.

veritas 09-27-2018 01:52 PM

Boof and Chyeah just came in with the assist. Thanks guys. The theory now appears stronger.


Unfortunately.

veritas 09-27-2018 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!! (Post 702817)
had to dig through my old laptop but I managed to find a few gems:

keep in mind that the kidney is the most trafficked organ on the black market. The kidney is responsible for regulating more chemicals in the blood than any other organ in the body.

Coloboma, the PAX2 gene mutation, anti aging, Snake in the Eye, Ouroboros, Waardenburg Syndrome (check out Madeline McCann's kidnapping case)

Check out closeup eye pics of the elite who have Coloboma as well (Podesta bros, Rockerfeller, Rothschilds, etc) Makes you wonder about those reptilian rumors. Things is this genetic marker is almost like a calling card for the elite. If you have the genetic marker, the more likely you can be used as a host for 4th and 5th dimensional walk ins

people like this geneticist are all in on it
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyxLPrrUoAAvDt9.jpg:large

Learned Helplessness, disassociative personality disorder. Trauma based learning. Satanic Ritual Abuse

People who have undergone trauma during the time of bloodspill have the best blood for walk in efforts of the Archons via loosh energy. Drinking blood with high adrenaline in it has been done throughout history.

PAX2. The people with this expressive trait aren't being sacrificed, rather harvested for a special protein to aid in the anti aging process.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=12...39.Daeph6IjOrI

also, https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols

any of those symbols look familiar @veritas

few links

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22984579

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...a0f26fb67cde7b

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...a0f26fb67cde7b

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...-memory-mice-0


in regards the Adrenachrome. IMO the chemical in the blood that produces the euphoric high aids in the walk in effort of those carrying out the ritual. The opening of a dimension so to speak for the summoned to walk through. The ritual participator gets there high, and the high produces the energy for the silent partner, demon, archon etc to walk in and manifest itself and feed on the energy

My bad, for not showing this love Cheyeahh.

boof 09-27-2018 01:57 PM

chyeah is the truth but its even further out there for diode & dull boy unfortunately

boof 09-27-2018 01:59 PM

@Diode does showing that adrenochrome gets you high help the argument? or at least that it has health benefits?

veritas 09-27-2018 02:02 PM

or the anti-aging properties? and what we know of the human nature of the correlation of fame and power and vanity?

How they would use it to stay attractive?

I mean....is this totally impossible?

Ghost1 09-27-2018 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!! (Post 703472)
Lol i guess nobody peeped the medical journal links.

Thats why i dont post links anymore.

I will say... if you genuinely want to make your arguments compelling....offering your research slowly and to specific claims would be more helpful to your cause......posting massive blocks of material is not helpful especially when speaking with people that are dismissing your claims out the gate

so when dull boy says he has read an article saying that their is no medical proof of the benefit of adrenochrome youre claiming there is,,,,,then you would present your medical journal findings

this is the way a discussion should go

it shouldn't be about being right but about communicating on the issue in a manner that information can flow from both sides.


like I said im just spectating here but that would make this more enjoyable from my seat and also I would think would help both sides get a better view of the entire issue in discussion.

veritas 09-27-2018 02:03 PM

Also: I am not trying to zero-sum here. If anything my theories opposers did when they said it was impossible.

I said it was a theory. That the adrenochrome high/anti-aging would be just another reason for the abominable practices to occur.

fair?

veritas 09-27-2018 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 703486)
I will say... if you genuinely want to make your arguments compelling....offering your research slowly and to specific claims would be more helpful to your cause......posting massive blocks of material is not helpful especially when speaking with people that are dismissing your claims out the gate

so when dull boy says he has read an article saying that their is no medical proof of the benefit of adrenochrome youre claiming there is,,,,,then you would present your medical journal findings

this is the way a discussion should go

it shouldn't be about being right but about communicating on the issue in a manner that information can flow from both sides.


like I said im just spectating here but that would make this more enjoyable from my seat and also I would think would help both sides get a better view of the entire issue in discussion.

You are on a roll, butter bruh.

Diode 09-27-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boof (Post 703483)
@Diode does showing that adrenochrome gets you high help the argument? or at least that it has health benefits?

are you a rabbit? do you understand what a sample size is? do you understand what high (as a colloquialism) is?

boof 09-27-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diode (Post 703492)
are you a rabbit? do you understand what a sample size is? do you understand what high (as a colloquialism) is?

the links were in response to bags quoted post with the 3 points, i read ur posts afterwards my b

do you agree with my list of things we know?
if so,
would showing evidence of health benefits in humans from adrenochrome help this theory?

is the idea that adrenochrome isnt actually beneficial to human health the reason you think the theory holds no weight? or do you not believe wealthy politicians engage in nefarious activity involving children behind closed doors

boof 09-27-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dull boy (Post 703313)
@boof

Never mind. I found and read an article on it. So they gave older mice blood transfusions from younger mice and in ONE study found that it had health benefits. There have been zero human studies or any science suggesting there's a benefit to doing this.

Even if there turns out to be health benefits to this, it's not as if anyone is protecting the information like some exclusive to the ultra rich and powerful. It's a hypothetical medical practice. It's like a fad diet for rich people. What's nefarious about this?

How do you go from this to politicians kidnapping children for the purpose of stealing their bodily fluids?

studies are irrelevant if the elite class believes it has health benefits. rich people get sold bullshit just as much as poor people. weird rituals go on all the time in elite circles, transhumanism goals exist as well, whether its real or not is much less important than knowing they believe its real

just because news sources started covering the sale of teenage blood doesn't mean it wasn't being protected for a long time beforehand. not saying it was, but just because its public, doesn't mean its not evil. powers normalize fucked up shit all of the time, you can gradually integrate any idea into society if you do it right, regardless of how nefarious it actually is. war. detaining children. slavery. etc. even the way you just worded it aids in normalizing it.

see my list for response to final question

veritas 09-27-2018 02:37 PM

let us be fair here Diode/Uh-Oh/Dullboy:

Plenty of ideas seemed crazy before they proven to be true. This is a historical fact. It is also a fact that the military/government is years ahead of the common man in terms of technology. This is a fact.

So I feel boof. if your argument is: "it is not common knowledge so it is impossible" that seems illogical guys.


Also...these are the same group of people who strive on operating in the shadows, yet right in front of our faces. If you do not agree that they exist, please let me know and we can discuss that to find common ground. Fair?

lastly, why such a knee-jerk response to a theory? I never said it was true. I just wanted a discussion. I am curious about this.

PancakeBrah 09-27-2018 02:43 PM

Please group me in with the cool logic bois next time you list them please

uh-oh 09-27-2018 02:44 PM

this thread is like pizzagate 2.0

veritas 09-27-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 703504)
Please group me in with the cool logic bois next time you list them please

Ok.


You seem down today. More so than usual. I hope your day gets better.

veritas 09-27-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 703506)
this thread is like pizzagate 2.0

do you deny pizzagate?

PancakeBrah 09-27-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas (Post 703507)
Ok.


You seem down today. More so than usual. I hope your day gets better.

I've been in a good mood this week. Hard to read mood in vbulletin posts. Fair?

uh-oh 09-27-2018 02:50 PM

i think what is being lost in all of this is the unknown greatness of little kid buttholes. im pretty sure the once great, now shamed louis ck had a joke about it once. how pedophiles would get caught and go to jail, be brutalized as the lowest form of human scum in jail for years, and get out and bang a little boy butthole, AGAIN. as a repeat offender. because the joys of the butthole was enough to balance out the misery of the punishment of being caught.

is it possible that some people are wired different, and attracted to kids? is it not more probable that if "elites" are doing nefarious things behind closed doors with children it is simple rape/molestation?

espescially considering that is what has been historically found to be true in plenty of institutions like the catholic church?

also if anything was to be harvested wouldnt it be stemcells? since that is actually something proven beneficial in basically all areas of medicine?

boof 09-27-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 703510)
i think what is being lost in all of this is the unknown greatness of little kid buttholes. im pretty sure the once great, now shamed louis ck had a joke about it once. how pedophiles would get caught and go to jail, be brutalized as the lowest form of human scum in jail for years, and get out and bang a little boy butthole, AGAIN. as a repeat offender. because the joys of the butthole was enough to balance out the misery of the punishment of being caught.

is it possible that some people are wired different, and attracted to kids? is it not more probable that if "elites" are doing nefarious things behind closed doors with children it is simple rape/molestation?

espescially considering that is what has been historically found to be true in plenty of institutions like the catholic church?

also if anything was to be harvested wouldnt it be stemcells? since that is actually something proven beneficial in basically all areas of medicine?

i think everything you're saying here is for sure true i just dont know why you would assume they would 'simply rape/molest' if given any other beneficial addition to the process. like veritas said multiple birds with one stone. if they're all gathered here today for an orgy with kids and one day the group finds out we can also get some dope anti aging shit from them, why wouldnt they? they obviously are not above it morally

and im not even saying i think this is all happening in the same room at the same time i just think its probably happening in some capacity. i couldnt actually fathom the practical process behind it because they live in a different world than us.

& i'm sure rich ppl been copping stemcells for decades. its probably why republicans are so against it, more for them. i think this is possibly the anti-abortion motive for elites on the right as well. i feel like we're grossly underestimating what these people are up to. we can design babies bro. rockefeller had like 9 heart transplants. if you're a rich psychopath in power and can fuck kids and live forever without anyone knowing of course you're gonna do that shit.

like fuck adrenochrome specifically just in general this whole practice is super probable if you know the list of things i rattled off.

like oh organ harvesting is a billion dollar industry and pedophilia rings exist in all powerful industries of society but no way in hell they intersect? come on

veritas 09-27-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 703509)
I've been in a good mood this week. Hard to read mood in vbulletin posts. Fair?

Fair on the surface. Upon deeper investigation, however, not fair in that we attribute mood to text messages (often inaccurately lol). We also have known each other (on the interwebz loll) for years and if we pay attention we can discern patterns. You just seemed more in your "snarky" pattern.

Granted I did try and make the leap of discerning real world issues for the extra snarky online pattern to emerge.

My bad, G.

Glad things are good.

Chyeahhh!!! 09-27-2018 03:18 PM

he speaks....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost1 (Post 703486)
I will say... if you genuinely want to make your arguments compelling....offering your research slowly and to specific claims would be more helpful to your cause......posting massive blocks of material is not helpful especially when speaking with people that are dismissing your claims out the gate

so when dull boy says he has read an article saying that their is no medical proof of the benefit of adrenochrome youre claiming there is,,,,,then you would present your medical journal findings

this is the way a discussion should go

it shouldn't be about being right but about communicating on the issue in a manner that information can flow from both sides.


like I said im just spectating here but that would make this more enjoyable from my seat and also I would think would help both sides get a better view of the entire issue in discussion.

No. I did that with binary star research on NC1 and NC2 to no avail. As I've said, I present info, do with it what you will.

veritas 09-27-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 703510)
i think what is being lost in all of this is the unknown greatness of little kid buttholes. im pretty sure the once great, now shamed louis ck had a joke about it once. how pedophiles would get caught and go to jail, be brutalized as the lowest form of human scum in jail for years, and get out and bang a little boy butthole, AGAIN. as a repeat offender. because the joys of the butthole was enough to balance out the misery of the punishment of being caught.

is it possible that some people are wired different, and attracted to kids? is it not more probable that if "elites" are doing nefarious things behind closed doors with children it is simple rape/molestation?

espescially considering that is what has been historically found to be true in plenty of institutions like the catholic church?

also if anything was to be harvested wouldnt it be stemcells? since that is actually something proven beneficial in basically all areas of medicine?


Ok well said, before we continue I want to make sure I am hearing you right. You are willing to consider that the elites are raping children yes?

veritas 09-27-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boof (Post 703513)
i think everything you're saying here is for sure true i just dont know why you would assume they would 'simply rape/molest' if given any other beneficial addition to the process. like veritas said multiple birds with one stone. if they're all gathered here today for an orgy with kids and one day the group finds out we can also get some dope anti aging shit from them, why wouldnt they? they obviously are not above it morally

and im not even saying i think this is all happening in the same room at the same time i just think its probably happening in some capacity. i couldnt actually fathom the practical process behind it because they live in a different world than us.

& i'm sure rich ppl been copping stemcells for decades. its probably why republicans are so against it, more for them. i think this is possibly the anti-abortion motive for elites on the right as well. i feel like we're grossly underestimating what these people are up to. we can design babies bro. rockefeller had like 9 heart transplants. if you're a rich psychopath in power and can fuck kids and live forever without anyone knowing of course you're gonna do that shit.

like fuck adrenochrome specifically just in general this whole practice is super probable if you know the list of things i rattled off.

like oh organ harvesting is a billion dollar industry and pedophilia rings exist in all powerful industries of society but no way in hell they intersect? come on

Guys, Boof is flowing in here. someone contend with him.

Ghost1 09-27-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chyeahhh!!! (Post 703516)
No. I did that with binary star research on NC1 and NC2 to no avail. As I've said, I present info, do with it what you will.

lol on my life I swear itt thread I thought to myself as I read your small ...reserved responses...what happened to the chyeah that debated elenin and brown dwarfs for a month straight into 32 pages of wonder?

I miss that guy

I miss those threads


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